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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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As an "armoured gun boat", the Pr.191 has layers of armour around the hull and bridge to help against small-arms fire from the opposition. Almost all the armour on the boat are of the RHA composition, and so their stated thickness are their actual protection values provided for the ship.
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The armour covers the bridge and turrets in all angles. However, despite all this armour in the fuselage enveloping the ship's centre and the rear turret's ammo stowage, it does not cover the bow ammo rack carrying the 85 mm rounds for the main armament; nor does it cover the rear fuel tanks, steering gear, and transmission. Because of this, glancing shots towards the bow and stern of the boat
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'''Armour type:'''
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* Rolled homogenous armour
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* Hardened armour (Rear turret base)
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{| class="wikitable"
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|-
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! Armour !! Bow (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Stern !! Deck
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| Hull || 7 mm || 7 mm (0-32°) || 7 mm || 10 mm (0-89°)
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| Bridge || 14 mm || 14 mm || 14 mm || 10 mm (90°)
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|-
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! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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|-
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| Main turret || 30 mm (0-42°) ''Front'' <br> 10 mm (23-47°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 30 mm (9-13°) || 30 mm (17°) || 20 mm (88-90°)
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|-
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| Secondary turrets || 12 mm || 12 mm || 12 mm || 12 mm
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|-
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|}
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'''Notes:'''
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* Turret base have an armour thickness of 10 mm. While the bow 85 mm turret base is made of RHA, the stern turret base is made of hardened armour.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
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|-
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! colspan="3" |Weight (tons)
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| colspan="3" |50.3
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!colspan="3" | Max Speed (km/h)
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!colspan="1" | Mode
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!Stock
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!Upgraded
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|''Arcade''
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|25.2
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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|25.2
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|}
  
 
== Armament ==
 
== Armament ==
 
=== Primary armament ===
 
=== Primary armament ===
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{{main|ZiS-C-53 (85 mm)}}
  
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=== Secondary armament ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="6" | [[ZiS-C-53 (85 mm)|85 mm ZiS-C-53]]
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! scope="row" | Vertical guidance
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| colspan = "6" | -8°/+77°
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! scope="row" | Horizontal guidance
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|  colspan = "6" | ±140°
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! scope="row" | Ammo capacity
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| colspan = "6" | 180
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===== Ammunition =====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
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! 10m
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! 100m
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! 500m
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! 1000m
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! 1500m
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! 2000m
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| 85 mm O-365K || HE || 38 || 30 || 24 || 20 || 16 || 11
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| 85 mm BR-365 || APHEBC || 132 || 112 || 193 || 77 || 65 || 55
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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''in m:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
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''in mm:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
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! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
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! 0%
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! 50%
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! 100%
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| 85 mm O-365K || HE || 785 || 9.54 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 741 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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| 85 mm BR-365 || APHEBC || 792 || 9.2 || 1.2 || 15 || 164 || -1° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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|}
  
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=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
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=== Secondary armament ===
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=== Torpedo armament ===
 
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{{main|DShK (12.7 mm)}}
  
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=== Special armament ===
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! colspan="6" | [[DShK (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm DShK]] (x4)
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! colspan = "6" | Turrets (Bow to stern)
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!  || Centre turret (x2) || Stern turret (x2)
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! scope="row" | Vertical guidance
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| colspan = "6" | -5°/+85°
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! scope="row" | Horizontal guidance
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| ±180° || -135°/+145°
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! scope="row" | Ammo capacity
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| colspan = "6" | 8,000
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Possesses a whoppin' 85 mm cannon to pick off targets
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* Relatively thin profile, presents a rather small target when facing enemy face-on
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* The main 85 mm gun is limited towards only the front and bits of the sides
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* Is covered in armour... except for the front ammo rack and rear mobility modules and fuel tanks
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* Small crew complement
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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Following the Soviet's experience with the [[Pr.1124 (1945)|Pr.1124]] and 1125 armoured boats, development for an improved successor came in the immediate post-war period of 1946, assigned to Central Design Bureau №19 (TsKB-19) at Leningrad. The improvements were for more armour, an 85 mm gun, two 12.7 mm machine guns and powered by the T-34 V-12 diesel engine.<ref name="Navpedia_191M"/> The boat developed as the '''Project 191''' in Shipyard №344 at the city of Molotov (today known as Perm).<ref name="Navpedia_191"/><ref name="RusShip_191/>
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The single unit produced was designated '''BK-166'''.<ref name="Navpedia_191"/><ref name="RusShip_191/> From the ship's development, improvements were made with M-50 diesel engines and 14.5 mm machine guns that would be used in succeeding units as the ''[[Pr.191M|Project 191M]]'',<ref name="Navpedia_191M"/> of which 118 units would be produced.<ref name="RusShip_191/>
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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* [[Pr.191M]] - Main production variant of the ship, with the main improvements in machine gun armaments and mobility.
  
 
== External links ==
 
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* [http://www.navypedia.org/ships/russia/ru_cf_bk191.htm [Navypedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> BK-166 armoured motor gunboat (project 191) (1946)]
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* [http://russianships.info/eng/warfareboats/ [RussianShips.info<nowiki>]</nowiki> Project 191]
  
 
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<ref name="Navpedia_191">Gogin, Ivan. "BK-166 armoured motor gunboat (project 191) (1946)." Navypedia, [http://www.navypedia.org/ships/russia/ru_cf_bk191.htm].</ref>
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<ref name="Navpedia_191M">Gogin, Ivan. "BK-167 Armoured Motor Gunboats (Project 191M) (1947 - 1953)." Navypedia, [http://www.navypedia.org/ships/russia/ru_cf_bk167.htm Website].</ref>
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<ref name="RusShip_191>Brichevsky, Andrew and Volkov, Roman. “Gun Boat - Project 191.” RussianShips.info, [http://russianships.info/eng/warfareboats/project_191.htm Website].</ref>
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Revision as of 05:08, 17 May 2019

Introducing Wiki 3.0
Pr.191
ussr_pr_191.png
Pr.191
USSR flag.png USSR
III Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
2.7 2.7 2.7
Class:
Research:26 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:76 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

GarageImage Pr.191.jpg


The Pr.191 is a rank III Soviet armoured gun boat with a battle rating of 2.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced during Update 1.79 "Project X" when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game.

General info

Survivability and armour

As an "armoured gun boat", the Pr.191 has layers of armour around the hull and bridge to help against small-arms fire from the opposition. Almost all the armour on the boat are of the RHA composition, and so their stated thickness are their actual protection values provided for the ship.

The armour covers the bridge and turrets in all angles. However, despite all this armour in the fuselage enveloping the ship's centre and the rear turret's ammo stowage, it does not cover the bow ammo rack carrying the 85 mm rounds for the main armament; nor does it cover the rear fuel tanks, steering gear, and transmission. Because of this, glancing shots towards the bow and stern of the boat

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogenous armour
  • Hardened armour (Rear turret base)
Armour Bow (Slope angle) Sides Stern Deck
Hull 7 mm 7 mm (0-32°) 7 mm 10 mm (0-89°)
Bridge 14 mm 14 mm 14 mm 10 mm (90°)
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Main turret 30 mm (0-42°) Front
10 mm (23-47°) Gun mantlet 		30 mm (9-13°) 30 mm (17°) 20 mm (88-90°)
Secondary turrets 12 mm 12 mm 12 mm 12 mm

Notes:

  • Turret base have an armour thickness of 10 mm. While the bow 85 mm turret base is made of RHA, the stern turret base is made of hardened armour.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons)
50.3
Max Speed (km/h)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 25.2 __.__
Realistic/Simulator 25.2 __.__

Armament

Primary armament

Main article: ZiS-C-53 (85 mm)
85 mm ZiS-C-53
Vertical guidance -8°/+77°
Horizontal guidance ±140°
Ammo capacity 180
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
85 mm O-365K HE 38 30 24 20 16 11
85 mm BR-365 APHEBC 132 112 193 77 65 55
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent): 		Normalization At 30°
from horizontal: 		Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
85 mm O-365K HE 785 9.54 0.0 0.1 741 +0° 79° 80° 81°
85 mm BR-365 APHEBC 792 9.2 1.2 15 164 -1° 48° 63° 71°

Secondary armament

Main article: DShK (12.7 mm)
12.7 mm DShK (x4)
Turrets (Bow to stern)
Centre turret (x2) Stern turret (x2)
Vertical guidance -5°/+85°
Horizontal guidance ±180° -135°/+145°
Ammo capacity 8,000

Usage in battles

Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don’t get try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Possesses a whoppin' 85 mm cannon to pick off targets
  • Relatively thin profile, presents a rather small target when facing enemy face-on

Cons:

  • The main 85 mm gun is limited towards only the front and bits of the sides
  • Is covered in armour... except for the front ammo rack and rear mobility modules and fuel tanks
  • Small crew complement

History

Following the Soviet's experience with the Pr.1124 and 1125 armoured boats, development for an improved successor came in the immediate post-war period of 1946, assigned to Central Design Bureau №19 (TsKB-19) at Leningrad. The improvements were for more armour, an 85 mm gun, two 12.7 mm machine guns and powered by the T-34 V-12 diesel engine.[1] The boat developed as the Project 191 in Shipyard №344 at the city of Molotov (today known as Perm).[2][3]

The single unit produced was designated BK-166.[2][3] From the ship's development, improvements were made with M-50 diesel engines and 14.5 mm machine guns that would be used in succeeding units as the Project 191M,[1] of which 118 units would be produced.[3]

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

  • Pr.191M - Main production variant of the ship, with the main improvements in machine gun armaments and mobility.

External links


USSR boats
Motor torpedo boats  D-3 · G-5 · G-5 (ShVAK) · Pr.123-bis · Pr.123K (A-10bis) · Pr.123K · Pr.183
Motor gun boats  TKA-412 · MO-4 · OD-200 · Pr.253L · Pr.183 BM-21 · Ya-5M
Motor torpedo gun boats  Pr. 206 · Pr.206-M · MPK Pr.12412 · MPK Pr.12412P · MPK Pr.11451
Gunboats  Groza
Armoured gun boats  BMO · MBK-161 early · MBK-161 late · MBK pr.186 · MBK pr.186 (MK 85) · Pr.1124 early · Pr.1124 late · Pr.1124 MLRS
  Pr.191 · Pr.191M · Pr.1204 · Pr.1204 late

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Gogin, Ivan. "BK-167 Armoured Motor Gunboats (Project 191M) (1947 - 1953)." Navypedia, Website.
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Gogin, Ivan. "BK-166 armoured motor gunboat (project 191) (1946)." Navypedia, [1].
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 Brichevsky, Andrew and Volkov, Roman. “Gun Boat - Project 191.” RussianShips.info, Website.
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