TAM 2IP

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TAM 2IP
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GarageImage TAM 2IP.jpg
TAM 2IP
AB RB SB
9.3 9.3 9.3
Purchase:8 910 Specs-Card-Eagle.png

Description

The Tanque Argentino Mediano 2IP is a premium rank VI German light tank with a battle rating of 9.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Red Skies". Sitting between TAM and TAM 2C in terms of performance, this tank is essentially an earlier TAM model with access to more modern ammunition and add-on armor for increased protection.

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull32 / 15 / 11
Turret30 / 25 / 15
Crew4 people
Visibility84 %

Base armor of TAM 2IP is very thin, just 11mm plate angled at 74° on the upper frontal glacis, and 15mm of armor on the sides. Turret is not something to boast about either - the strongest plate being a gun mantlet with a 30mm plate and sides being 25mm thin. 

On the bright side, the 2IP version is fitted with Iron Wall add-on composite armor. This variable thickness armor package dramatically increases effectiveness of armor against chemical munitions, but does little to protect against kinetic penetrators. 

Front

Most noticeable increase in protection is on the upper plate of the hull - even newer HEAT rounds and older ATGMs may struggle to penetrate the hull armor. 

Sadly, add-on protection on the turret is not enough to defeat those same munitions. 

Frontal arc protection against autocannons is mostly great, but occasional lucky shots can penetrate the turret ring. 

Players also must be aware of the giant weak spot that is the driver's area - it is only 11mm plate angled at 74° and it is not protected by add-on armor, allowing vehicles like Dardo to get through. 

Sides

While TAM 2IP is now resistant to 12.7mm rounds on the hull side, overall side protection remains poor, as it can still get easily penetrated by anything larger than 12.7mm.

Crew

When looking at TAM 2IP from the front, one can see that on the left side, the commander sits directly behind the gunner, while the loader sits almost directly behind the driver on the right side.

Both gunner and commander are protected by the transmision and the engine (similar to Merkava tanks); while that won't protect them from most kinetic munitions, it can negate shrapnel from older chemical and HESH rounds that manages to get through add-on armor.

Driver is very vulnerable as he sits behind an 11mm thin plate angled at 74°, with a first-stage ammo rack and loader directly behind him. Driver's area is not protected by add-on armor either. 

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armor
  • Add-on composite armor
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 11 mm (77°) Upper glacis - Engine access panel

32 mm (77°) Upper glacis - Sides

32 mm (29°) Lower glacis - Top

32 mm (60°) Lower glacis - Bottom

15 mm (30°) Top

15 mm Bottom

11 mm (23°) Upper plate

11 mm (27°) Lower plate

11-32 mm (13°) Front glacis

11 mm Crew compartment

5 mm Radiator vents

Turret 50 mm (5-35°) Turret front

30 mm + 30 mm (51-63°) Mantlet Front

25 mm (7-10°) Mantlet Sides

20 mm (79°) Roof glacis

30 mm (cylindrical) Gunner periscope

25 mm (24-27°) Crew Compartment

15 mm (27°) Bustle

25 mm Cupola well

15 mm (22°)

11 mm (79°) Turret underside

20 (11°) Roof glacis

11 mm

Cupola 35 mm (cylindrical) ___ mm ___ mm 35 mm Outer ring

11 mm Centre

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick
  • Tracks are 20 mm thick
  • Side skirts are 4mm thick
  • Air intake on the right side is 5mm thick
Composite add-on armor Front Side
Hull Upper glacis

~90 mm Kinetic

~520 mm Chemical

Upper side

~45 mm Kinetic

~295 mm Chemical

Turret Turret face~70-140 mm Kinetic

~70-340 mm Chemical

Turret side

~50 mm Kinetic

~260mm Chemical

Mobility

Reverse gearbox
Forward and backward movement is possible at the same maximum speed
Speedforward / back
AB84 / 84 km/h
RB and SB75 / 75 km/h
Number of gears8 forward
8 back
Weight33.0 t
Engine power
AB1 374 hp
RB and SB720 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB41.6 hp/t
RB and SB21.8 hp/t

Even with additional protection, TAM 2IP suffers no decrease to its mobility when compared to its tech tree counterpart; thus is more mobile and agile than its main competitor, Leopard A1A1. This mobility allows TAM 2IP to perform many different roles, be it flanking, scouting, rushing favorable positions or relocating. 

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 84 84 33 _,___ 1,374 __.__ 41.64
Realistic 75 75 _,___ 720 __.__ 21.82

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB2 624 Sl icon.png
RB2 789 Sl icon.png
SB3 201 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts850 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 900 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 130 / 160 / 210 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 220 / 220 / 220 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
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Improved FPE
Mods tank reinforcement ger.png
Crew Replenishment
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Mods tank ammo.png
105mm_usa_HESH_ammo_pack
Mods tank ammo.png
105mm_NATO_APDS_FS_ammo_pack
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Mods airstrike.png
Airstrike
Mods tank laser rangefinder.png
Laser rangefinder
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Mods scout streak.png
Scout UAV
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support
Mods scouting.png
Improved optics
Mods tank ammo.png
105mm_DM33_APDS_FS_ammo_pack

As a premium vehicle, TAM 2IP comes with all modifications unlocked.

Armaments

Laser rangefinder
Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder

Main armament

105 mm FMK.4 Modelo 1L cannon
Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Ammunition50 rounds
First-order29 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
8.7 → 6.7 s
Vertical guidance-7° / 18°

Main armament consists of FMK.4 Modelo 1L gun; fully stabilised gun that is standard to the TAM family. Unlike TAM however, it has access to DM33, 3rd best NATO round available for 105mm guns and a very potent round at its BR. TAM 2IP also comes equipped with a laser range finder - this gadget allows it to acquire targets distance, thus allowing long range shots, immensely fast.

105 mm FMK.4 Modelo 1L Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 50 -7°/+18° ±180° Two-plane __._ __._ __._ __._ __._ _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Realistic __._ __._ __._ __._ __._

Ammunition

  • DM12 HEAT-FS - HEAT round does not lose penetration with distance travelled. Unlike kinetic penetrators, it has one downside: given that it is a chemical round, its fuse is highly sensitive. With the emergence of composite and reactive armour, it quickly became obsolete in the anti-tank role. Requires careful aiming to properly damage newer tanks, though it can hold its own while fighting older tanks, lighter vehicles and low-flying helicopters.
  • DM502 HESH - This round was always plagued by a plethora of problems: low velocity, low penetration, inconsistent mechanics and sensitive fuse make this round gimmicky at best. That being said, with the overpressure mechanic, this round can be used in CQB against light vehicles with devastating effect.
  • DM23 APFSDS - This round allows the player to engage modern tanks more reliably, since it performs better against composite and reactive armour. While penetration is sufficient relative to TAM 2IP's BR, there is simply no use for this round as its direct upgrade is available from the get go.
  • DM33 APFSDS - Best round available to the TAM 2IP and third best NATO round available for 105 mm cannons. It allows the player to engage any enemies at the TAM 2IP's BR at any range reliably. Even higher BR vehicles are not safe. Player should be of note that this round can easily over penetrate light vehicles such as BMP-2 or SPAAGs, so aiming at vital components is preferred in order to create shrapnel necessary to destroy them.
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
DM12 HEATFS 400 400 400 400 400 400
DM502 HESH 127 127 127 127 127 127
DM23 APFSDS 337 335 330 322 314 306
DM33 APFSDS 408 405 398 389 379 370
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
DM12 HEATFS 1,173 10.5 0.05 0.1 1,270 65° 72° 77°
DM502 HESH 732 14.85 0.05 0.1 4,310 73° 77° 80°
DM23 APFSDS 1,455 3.79 N/A N/A N/A 78° 80° 81°
DM33 APFSDS 1,455 3.79 N/A N/A N/A 78° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
50 41 (+9) 30 (+20) 21 (+11) (+49) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
  • Racks 3 and 4 are first stage ammunition racks (29 shells total), meaning they will deplete first (in the order of 3 then 4) but will replenish from the other racks, starting with rack 1 and then rack 2.

Machine guns

Ammunition2 000 rounds
Belt capacity200 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate1 001 shots/min
Ammunition2 000 rounds
Belt capacity200 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate1 001 shots/min

The small calibre of the FN MAG 60-40 machine guns make them largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. They still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.

7.62 mm FN MAG 60-40
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 2,000 (200) 600 N/A N/A
Commander cupola 2,000(200) 600 -10°/+60° ±120°

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

TAM 2IP essentially plays as its tech tree counterpart. While it can still perform well as a regular main battle tank, using it this way would be just wasting its potential. It's a fast, potent flanker, but with the addition of a powerful DM33 round, TAM 2IP is also a potent sniper.

Sniping:

Players should abuse TAM 2IPs mobility to reach advantegous positions and start picking off players. DM33 is overkill at BR 8.7 (only T-62M-1 providing better performance) and coupled with laser range finder, TAM 2IP can snipe really well. While it can't fight as well in hull down positions as Leopard A1A1 due to slightly worse gun depression, it can still make great use of cover, as it negates its biggest weakness - armor. 

Flanking:

Due to TAM 2IPs excellent mobility, stabilised gun and powerful round, TAM 2IP is a potent flanker. Add-on armor allows it to shrug off most autocannon fire from IFVs, as those will be common flankers at this BR. Coupled with scouting ability, TAM 2IP employing hit and run tactics on flanks can become enemy teams worst nightmare. 

CQB:

While the TAM 2IP performs great at longer ranges, its performance is below average on CQC maps with corridors and streets that do not allow it to exploit its mobility, like those found on Advance to Rhine. Better armoured tanks in general outperform TAM 2IP by wide margin in these environments. Players should focus on ambushing enemy tanks. TAM 2IP turret placement on the back of the tank and acceleration can be exploited in this scenario well - by reversing out of cover, your engine is still protected while you expose only a small part of your tank. Another viable option is to support their allies. Let them take a shot, and as soon as you see the enemy tank return fire, lunge forward and send the enemy back to the garage. 

Pros:

  • DM33 available, which is more than competitive at this BR
  • Same mobility as regular TAM, despite add-on armor
  • Wide selection of ammunition

Cons:

  • Despite add-on armor, protection remains somewhat poor
  • No thermals
  • Lacks M416 smoke shell, limiting its tactical potential

History

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See also

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Germany light tanks
Pz.II  Pz.II C · Pz.II C (DAK) · Pz.II C TD · Pz.II F · Pz.Sfl.Ic
Sd.Kfz.234  Sd.Kfz.234/1 · Sd.Kfz.234/2 · Sd.Kfz.234/2 TD
Marder  Marder A1- · Marder 1A3 · Begleitpanzer 57 · DF105
SPz PUMA  PUMA · PUMA VJTF
Wheeled  Sd.Kfz.221 (s.Pz.B.41) · Class 3 (P) · Radkampfwagen 90 · Boxer MGS
Other  Ru 251 · SPz 12-3 LGS
Argentina  TAM · TAM 2C · TAM 2IP · JaPz.K A2
Czechoslovakia  Pz.35(t) · Pz.38(t) A · Pz.38(t) F · Pz.38(t) n.A. · Sd.Kfz. 140/1
France  Pz.Sp.Wg.P204(f) KwK
Lithuania  Vilkas
USA  leKPz M41
USSR  SPz BMP-1

Germany premium ground vehicles
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Tank destroyers  Sd.Kfz.234/3 · Sd.Kfz.234/4 · Sd.Kfz.251/10 · Sd.Kfz.251/22 · 15 cm Pz.W.42
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