Turan II

Turan II

Turan II

Italy

II Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
2.3	2.3	2.3

Class:

PREMIUM

Medium tank

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Description

The 41M Turán II was a Hungarian medium tank that was designed as an improvement over the 40M Turán I. It had a new turret, more armour, and a new 75 mm gun that was based on an old 18M 8 cm field gun, outsourced and modified by the Swedish company Bofors. Around 195 Turán IIs were built from 1942 to 1944, but due to delays in gun optics and ammunition, it only reached units in September 1943. The 41M Turán II saw action on the Eastern Front and in the defence of Hungary against the Soviet invasion. Although it was outmatched by the Soviet T-34s with their long 75 mm guns, it could still damage Soviet tanks within 500 m, which was better than its predecessor with only a 40 mm gun.

The Turán II is a Hungarian tank in the Italian tech tree that was introduced during Update "Winged Lions" as a reward for Battle Pass: Season VI, "Firepower". It has a short barrel 75 mm gun that can fire powerful HEAT shells with a short reload time, similar to the early Pz.IVs from Germany or the Ho-I from Japan. The Turán II boasts good mobility, excellent reverse speed and adequate armour protection, making it a well-rounded medium tank worthy of it being sometimes referred to as "the Hungarian MBT". It can perform well in close combat situations thanks to its mobility, high rate of fire, and side skirt armour that can act as spaced armour against HEAT and HE shells.

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades

Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle

Armourfront / side / back

Hull15 / 25 / 25

Turret50 / 25 / 25

Crew5 people

Visibility72 %

Armour type:

• Rolled homogeneous armour
• Cast homogeneous armour (Hull and Turret MG ports)
• Structural steel (Side Skirts)

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	50 mm (18°) Upper plate 25 mm (18°) Driver port 13 mm (75°) Upper glacis 15+35 mm (30°) Lower plate 15+35 mm (50°) Lower glacis	25 mm (10-16°) + 8 mm Top 25+8 mm Bottom	25 mm Upper plate 25 mm (46°) Lower glacis	13 mm (15°) Front glacis 13 mm Crew and engine compartments 10 mm Engine vent 13 mm (73°) Transmission compartment
Turret	50 mm (10°) Turret front 25 mm Gun mantlet	25 (10°) + 8 (11°) mm	25+8 mm	25 mm Front 13 mm Rear
Cupola	25 mm (71°)	25 mm (10°)	25 mm (12°)	25 mm (19°) Front 13 mm Rear

Notes:

• Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick.
• The hull sides and turret sides and rear are protected by an extra 8 mm plate to provide protection from HEAT and HE shells.
• The front right side of the turret has one set of tracks acting as add-on armour with a thickness of 15 mm.
• Angling the tank to roughly 37-38° increases the armour of the front plate to 63 mm, however due to the armour arrangement, this allows a section of the side armour to have 30 mm of protection, leaving it vulnerable to most shells from opponents at its battle rating.

Mobility

Reverse gearbox

Forward and backward movement is possible at the same maximum speed

Speedforward / back

AB48 / 48 km/h

RB and SB44 / 44 km/h

Number of gears6 forward

6 back

Weight19.8 t

Engine power

AB496 hp

RB and SB260 hp

Power-to-weight ratio

AB25.1 hp/t

RB and SB13.1 hp/t

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
	Forward	Reverse		Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	48	48	19.8	403	496	20.35	25.05
Realistic	44	44		230	260	11.62	13.13

Modifications and economy

Repair cost

AB857

RB301

SB1 032

Crew training2 300

Experts15 000

Aces115

Research Aces320 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

2 × 40 / 40 / 60 %

2 × 112 / 112 / 112 %

Modifications

Mobility	Protection	Firepower
Tracks Suspension Brake System Filters Transmission Engine	Improved Parts Improved FPE Crew Replenishment Smoke grenade	Horizontal Drive Adjustment of Fire Elevation Mechanism 75mm_hung_HEAT_ammo_pack Artillery Support

Armaments

Main armament

75 mm 41.M cannon

Ammunition52 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

4.3 → 3.3 s

Vertical guidance-10° / 20°

75 mm 41.M					Turret rotation speed (°/s)					Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode	Capacity	Vertical	Horizontal	Stabilizer	Stock	Upgraded	Full	Expert	Aced	Stock	Full	Expert	Aced
Arcade	52	-10°/+20°	±180°	N/A	14.3	19.8	24.0	26.5	28.2	4.29	3.80	3.50	3.30
Realistic					8.9	10.5	12.8	14.1	15.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
42/36.M	APHEBC	72	70	61	51	44	37
42/38.M	HE	7	7	7	7	7	7
42.M	HEAT	90	90	90	90	90	90

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
							0%	50%	100%
42/36.M	APHEBC	535	5.7	1.2	14	102.4	48°	63°	71°
42/38.M	HE	450	5.2	0.2	0.1	400	79°	80°	81°
42.M	HEAT	450	4.8	0.05	0.1	875.5	62°	69°	73°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Turan II

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	4th rack empty	5th rack empty	6th rack empty	7th rack empty	8th rack empty	Visual discrepancy
52	47 (+5)	41 (+11)	35 (+17)	29 (+23)	23 (+29)	17 (+35)	11 (+41)	1 (+51)	No

Notes:

• As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you've fired both shells in the set.
• Turret empty: 23 (+29) shells.

Machine guns

8 mm 34/40M machine gun (coaxial)

Ammunition3 200 rounds

Belt capacity100 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

10.4 → 8.0 s

Fire rate900 shots/min

8 mm 34/40M
Mount	Capacity (Belt)	Fire rate	Vertical	Horizontal
Coaxial	3,200 (100)	900	N/A	N/A

Usage in battles

The Turan II shares many strengths and weaknesses with other Axis medium tanks at its Battle-Rating, and plays like its predecessor, the Turan I, albeit with a gun similar to that of the German Pz.IV F1.

The Turan II is a boxy vehicle, both the hull and the turret are mostly made up of nearly vertical armour plates. It has mesh side skirts on the hull and the turret, which provide added protection against HEAT and HE rounds. The frontal hull and turret armour is thickest at 50 mm, with the sides and rear being weaker with 25+8 mm of armour. As previously noted, slight angling can increase the effective armour of the Turan II. Playing the Turan II conservatively can maximize survivability as the armour is average for the BR and can be defeated by many other vehicles at this BR. The crew of five helps survivability, but they are somewhat close together, and the shells are placed all throughout the tank, including the turret, increasing the chances of getting ammo racked.

The Turan II has deceptively good mobility for a tank of its size and armament. It has a decent acceleration and top speed, and a great reverse speed. The hull and turret traverse are both average. Using the Turan II's mobility to find good flanking locations pairs well with its relatively quick reload and good gun depression. The 75 mm cannon has a low velocity and three different shells. The HEAT shell is clearly the superior round with up to 90 mm of penetration at any range. The APHE can inflict more post-pen damage, but at the cost of a drastic drop in penetration, less than half that of the HEAT round. The HE round doesn't have many practical uses, as the HEAT round often is sufficient to overpressure certain vehicles.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Short reload time
• Good gun depression
• Fairly mobile for its size and weight
• Quick and responsive reverse of -43 km/h
• Can bounce shots with a bit of angling
• Has smoke grenades

Cons:

• May struggle in an uptier
• Large profile
• Cramped turret, a penetrating shot often takes out the whole crew
• Littered with ammunition
• Angling too much presents a flat target for the enemy to shoot at, due to the shape of the hull
• Slow turret traverse

History

Devblog

Turan II during tests

At the beginning of the 1940s, the Hungarian military decided to develop its own medium tank on the basis of the recently developed Czechoslovakian T-21 medium tank prototype. After one test unit successfully passed initial trials in Hungary, several changes were made to the design, including the fitting of a Hungarian 40 mm cannon as well as increased armour protection. The resulting T-22 design would then be officially accepted into Hungarian service as the 40.M Turán (Turán I) in November 1940.

Turan II tanks before battle

An initial order of 230 Turán Is was issued in September 1940, but production ended up being delayed by several months due to incomplete technical documentation. Production started only in March 1941 after Škoda supplied the complete technical documents, with the first 40.M Turán I rolling off the assembly line in July 1941. However, before even the first vehicle was constructed, the Hungarian General Staff realized the need for upgrading the vehicle and thus formulated the specification to upgun the Turán with a 75 mm gun. However, as no such gun could be developed by Hungary at the time, a WW1 field gun was selected to be modified for tank use.

This undertaking was successful, though it required the Turán's turret to be enlarged slightly. The first prototype of this modification, which became known as the 41.M Turán II, was built in January 1942 and entered service in May. In total, around 195 Turán IIs were constructed until 1944. Today, only a single example of the Turán II survives and is on display in the Kubinka Tank Museum in the vicinity of Moscow.

Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the Turan II from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

Battle Pass: Firepower discusses the Turan II at 00:38 - War Thunder Official Channel

See also

Related development

• Turán I
• Turán III
• Zrínyi II
• Zrínyi I

Other Hungarian vehicles

• Csaba
• Toldi IIA

Similar vehicles

• Pz.IV F1
• Pz.IV E
• Pz.III N (Italy)
• Ho-I

External links

• [Devblog] Battle Pass vehicles: 41.M Turán II