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Now while the TOG II's armor may seem sufficient, in reality you are going to have to angle to increase your survivability. In terms of weak spots, the TOG II is nearly devoid of any such weak spots, besides the turret cheeks. which are 38mm thinner than the middle of the turret face. If you decide to equip the TOG II GWP modification, than you gain a extra two weak spots and a extra vulnerability. This is of course the two sponsons on the sides, and the smoke launcher. Despite the sponsons having the same thickness as the side armor, it is big weak spot when angling effectively ruling angling as a option. It is Highly recommended to keep the GWP modification uninstalled, for the highest chance of surviving a encounter
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Now while the TOG II's armor may seem sufficient, in reality you are going to have to angle to increase your survivability. In terms of weak spots, the TOG II is nearly devoid of any such weak spots, besides the turret cheeks which are 38mm thinner than the middle of the turret face. If you decide to equip the TOG II GWP modification, than you gain a extra two weak spots and a extra vulnerability. This is of course the two sponsons on the sides and the smoke launcher. Despite the sponsons having the same thickness as the side armor, it is big weak spot when angling effectively ruling angling as an option. It is Highly recommended to keep the GWP modification uninstalled for the highest chance of surviving a encounter.
  
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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'''Play style:'''                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             In In general you should play this tank like any other land ship: slowly make your way to the front line, kill everything, and make sure you have backup just in case. Despite having a slow speed, you have a reverse gear box, enabling you to "swiftly" retreat if you must. A important thing to keep in mind is that you should try not to over extend,  doing so will likely end your game with you becoming surrounded and unable to retreat. And with that huge weak spot being the side armor, all someone has to do is to shoot that the frontal third to the side and your entire crew being blown to smithereens, most of the time. While it is viable to show your back part of the tank, because of the size of the engine, and transmission. It is up to you, with the only downside being vastly reduced depression. It is recommended to uninstall the GWP modification. 
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'''Play style:'''
  
'''Ammunition:'''                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   One important thing to keep in mind is that your tank is given two shells: HE and solid shot. It is recommended to bring 26 shells, as this will put all your ammunition under your turret crew. This will greatly improve your survivablility. Despite being solid shot, you will see one shots, quite often due to the sheer size of the shell itself. It is highly recommended to uninstall the GWP modification, as it fills your front with ammunition with out your consent, at the moment.
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In general, you should play this tank like any other land ship: slowly make your way to the front line, destroy everything, and make sure you have backup just in case. Despite having a slow speed, you have a reverse gear box, enabling you to "swiftly" retreat if you must. A important thing to keep in mind is that you should try not to over extend, doing so will likely end your game with you becoming surrounded and unable to retreat. With the side armour as a huge weak spot, all someone has to do is to shoot that the frontal third to the side and your entire crew being blown to smithereens, most of the time. One option available to the player is to enter the battle facing backwards, with the tank's rear towards the enemies with the transmission and engine soaking up damages for the cost of extra module damage and vastly reduced gun depression. This is up to the player's descretion however
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'''Ammunition:'''
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One important thing to keep in mind is that your tank is given two shells: high-explosives and solid shot. It is recommended to bring 26 shells as this will put all your ammunition under your turret crew, this will greatly improve your survivability. However, the sheer size of the ammunition mean that it is still likely the ammunition can be hit and cook-off, destroying the TOG II tank.
  
 
'''Defensive Capabilities:'''                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                With a fast turret traverse, it will be quite easy to react to incoming threats. Even though your crew are all bunched up, it is surprisingly easy to avoid too many losses due to the sheer size of the tank itself. As a side note, you are defenseless against CAS due to your size and speed so expect to be bombed.
 
'''Defensive Capabilities:'''                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                With a fast turret traverse, it will be quite easy to react to incoming threats. Even though your crew are all bunched up, it is surprisingly easy to avoid too many losses due to the sheer size of the tank itself. As a side note, you are defenseless against CAS due to your size and speed so expect to be bombed.
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For improved survivability, uninstall the GWP modification. This is because not only it introduces weaknesses as described in the armour section, but the modification also introduces a  different ammunition rack arrangement that causes the front to be filled with ammo, which makes them easier to be hit and detonate the tank.
  
 
'''Notable Enemies:'''
 
'''Notable Enemies:'''
  
* ISU-122: Big gun and notable armor. It is recommended to try to ambush it or attack when it is distracted or reloading.
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* ISU-122: Big gun and notable armour. It is recommended to try to ambush it or attack when it is distracted or reloading.
* SU-85m: Gun able to pen you at close and medium range, notable armor. Try to shoot first.
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* SU-85M: Their gun is able to penetrate you at close and medium range. Try to shoot first.
* Waffentrager: Able to pen you anywhere, with devastating post pen damage. Try to hit it's ammo.
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* Waffentrager: Able to penetrate you anywhere, with devastating post-penetration damage. Try to hit its ammo.
* Tiger I: Big gun, good armor when it's angling. Try to shoot first.
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* Tiger I: Big gun, good armour when it's angling. Try to shoot first.
* M4/T26: Can pen you almost anywhere. Shoot the ammo rack.
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* M4/T26: Can penetrate the TOG II almost anywhere. Shoot the ammo rack.
* m36 GMC: Good gun, shoot at it's ammo rack.
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* M36 GMC: Good gun, shoot at its ammo rack.
* M4A4(SA50): Good gun, but it's a sherman so you can just shoot centre mass.
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* M4A4(SA50): Good gun, but it's a Sherman so you can just shoot centre mass.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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* Has 8 crew members.
 
* Has 8 crew members.
 
* Fast reload for a gun of this calibre
 
* Fast reload for a gun of this calibre
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* The vehicles is absolutely huge.
 
* The vehicles is absolutely huge.
 
* Due to its huge size and low speed, the tank is an easy prey for aircraft.
 
* Due to its huge size and low speed, the tank is an easy prey for aircraft.
* Even though the tank is huge, the crew is all very close together in the front under the turrest, which means the tank can be knocked out by one well aimed APHE shell.
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* Even though the tank is huge, the crew is all very close together in the front under the turret, which means the tank can be knocked out by one well aimed APHE shell.
 
* Huge engine and transmission, making them easy targets.
 
* Huge engine and transmission, making them easy targets.
  

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TOG II

Description

The TOG II is a premium gift rank British heavy tank with a battle rating of (AB), (RB), and (SB). It was introduced during Update "Kings of Battle" as the reward for the "Dreams Come True" 11th Anniversary event.

General info

Survivability and armour

With the GWP modification enabled, the potential weakspots are highlighted in red
Potential Weak spots Highlighted in Red with GWP modification Installed

Now while the TOG II's armor may seem sufficient, in reality you are going to have to angle to increase your survivability. In terms of weak spots, the TOG II is nearly devoid of any such weak spots, besides the turret cheeks which are 38mm thinner than the middle of the turret face. If you decide to equip the TOG II GWP modification, than you gain a extra two weak spots and a extra vulnerability. This is of course the two sponsons on the sides and the smoke launcher. Despite the sponsons having the same thickness as the side armor, it is big weak spot when angling effectively ruling angling as an option. It is Highly recommended to keep the GWP modification uninstalled for the highest chance of surviving a encounter.

Armour type:

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull ___ mm ___ mm Top
___ mm Bottom
___ mm ___ - ___ mm
Turret ___ - ___ mm Turret front
___ mm Gun mantlet
___ - ___ mm ___ - ___ mm ___ - ___ mm
Cupola ___ mm ___ mm ___ mm ___ mm

Notes:

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock AoA Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 72.5 5 775 10.69 __.__
Realistic 531 7.32 __.__

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: 28pdr OQF (94 mm)
94 mm 28pdr OQF Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 68 -10°/+20° ±180° - 26.7 37.0 44.9 49.6 52.8 7.80 6.90 6.36 6.00
Realistic 19.6 23.1 28.1 31.0 33.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Shot Mk.1 APCBC 204 202 192 180 169 159
Shell Mk.1 HE 13 13 13 13 13 13
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Shot Mk.1 APCBC 792 14.5 - - - 48° 63° 71°
Shell Mk.1 HE 792 12.7 0.4 0.5 920 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
68 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

Additional armament

76 mm OQF 3-inch Howitzer Mk I Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 45 ±3° ±4° - 12 17 20 23 24 8.1 7.2 6.6 6.2
Realistic 8.9 11 13 14 15

Ammunition

Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy
time (s)
Screen hold
time (s)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
3-inch Smoke 210 3.18 9 5 20 8

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
45 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

Machine guns

Main article: BESA (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm BESA
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 4,950 (225) 600 - -

Usage in battles

Play style:

In general, you should play this tank like any other land ship: slowly make your way to the front line, destroy everything, and make sure you have backup just in case. Despite having a slow speed, you have a reverse gear box, enabling you to "swiftly" retreat if you must. A important thing to keep in mind is that you should try not to over extend, doing so will likely end your game with you becoming surrounded and unable to retreat. With the side armour as a huge weak spot, all someone has to do is to shoot that the frontal third to the side and your entire crew being blown to smithereens, most of the time. One option available to the player is to enter the battle facing backwards, with the tank's rear towards the enemies with the transmission and engine soaking up damages for the cost of extra module damage and vastly reduced gun depression. This is up to the player's descretion however


Ammunition:

One important thing to keep in mind is that your tank is given two shells: high-explosives and solid shot. It is recommended to bring 26 shells as this will put all your ammunition under your turret crew, this will greatly improve your survivability. However, the sheer size of the ammunition mean that it is still likely the ammunition can be hit and cook-off, destroying the TOG II tank.

Defensive Capabilities: With a fast turret traverse, it will be quite easy to react to incoming threats. Even though your crew are all bunched up, it is surprisingly easy to avoid too many losses due to the sheer size of the tank itself. As a side note, you are defenseless against CAS due to your size and speed so expect to be bombed.

For improved survivability, uninstall the GWP modification. This is because not only it introduces weaknesses as described in the armour section, but the modification also introduces a different ammunition rack arrangement that causes the front to be filled with ammo, which makes them easier to be hit and detonate the tank.

Notable Enemies:

  • ISU-122: Big gun and notable armour. It is recommended to try to ambush it or attack when it is distracted or reloading.
  • SU-85M: Their gun is able to penetrate you at close and medium range. Try to shoot first.
  • Waffentrager: Able to penetrate you anywhere, with devastating post-penetration damage. Try to hit its ammo.
  • Tiger I: Big gun, good armour when it's angling. Try to shoot first.
  • M4/T26: Can penetrate the TOG II almost anywhere. Shoot the ammo rack.
  • M36 GMC: Good gun, shoot at its ammo rack.
  • M4A4(SA50): Good gun, but it's a Sherman so you can just shoot centre mass.

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".

Pros:

  • Good survivability when driving with the rear part forwards.
  • The AP shell has quite good penetration for its battle rating.
  • The tank has a reverse gear box, giving it the same speed in both directions.
  • The turret and track traverse speeds are surprisingly good, especially for the size of the vehicle.
  • The side of the vehicle has decent armor values, making armor angling and side scraping a viable tactic to improve the vehicles survivability.
  • Has 8 crew members.
  • Fast reload for a gun of this calibre

Cons:

  • One of the slowest vehicles in the game.
  • The TOG II GWP modification also gives the vehicle side sponsons, which create a big weak spot to its side armor, making side scraping an unusable tactic.
  • The cannon only has 1 anti armor shell, an AP round, which means you rarely oneshot vehicles.
  • The turret armor is not very thick, and isnt angled, which makes it a big weakspot.
  • The vehicles is absolutely huge.
  • Due to its huge size and low speed, the tank is an easy prey for aircraft.
  • Even though the tank is huge, the crew is all very close together in the front under the turret, which means the tank can be knocked out by one well aimed APHE shell.
  • Huge engine and transmission, making them easy targets.

History

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Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • other literature.


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