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Ki-109

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Ki-109

AB	RB	SB
1.7	2.0	2.3

Class:

Strike aircraft

Research:5 900

Purchase:6 300

Description

The Ki-109 is based on the Mitsubishi Ki-67 heavy bomber, refitted as an interceptor in an attempt to counter the American high-altitude bombing raids that devastated Japan. It is armed with a 75 mm anti-aircraft gun modified for aircraft use, and almost all defensive armament from the bomber version has been stripped, except for the tail turret, to maximize performance.

This bomber-interceptor was introduced in Update 1.71 "New E.R.A.". Its 75 mm gun is effective against bombers but should not be used on agile fighters or fast-moving vehicles. The Ki-109's defensive armament is poor, and conflicts with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed

at 6 050 m550 km/h

Turn time20 s

Max altitude9 300 m

Engine2 х Mitsubishi Ha-104

TypeRadial

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight11 t

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 6,050 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
Characteristics	AB	RB	Max altitude (metres)	AB	RB	AB	RB	Take-off run (metres)
Stock	531	515	9300	21.0	21.8	8.3	8.3	650
Upgraded	570	550	9300	19.1	20.0	14.0	10.9	650

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear
✓	✓	✓	X	X

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
650	300	428	399	250	~5	~1

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 360	< 360	< 360	> 313

Survivability and armour

Crew3 people

Speed of destruction

Structural650 km/h

Gear300 km/h

The fuselage durability is strong enough to shrug off machine gun fire and some cannon rounds. The Ki-109 doesn't have any armour except on the bottom of the gun itself, which is quite meaningless for the overall plane. The pilot has neither bulleproof glass nor armoured seat and the tail gunner is not protected either. Due to this, head-on attacks are strongly unadvised. Use the aircraft's manoeuvrability to evade incoming enemies in front of the plane. The Ki-109 is equipped with self-sealing tanks, meaning it can survive one of its wings being set alight and continue to fly. Though, it is advised to retreat to base if that happens.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB236 → 320

RB307 → 417

SB628 → 854

Total cost of modifications5 970

4 500

Talisman cost410

Crew training1 800

Experts6 300

Aces80

Research Aces135 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

20 / 40 / 90 %

106 / 106 / 106 %

Modifications

Flight performance

Survivability

Weaponry

Fuselage repair Research: 400 Cost: 300 65	Radiator Research: 400 Cost: 300 65
Compressor Research: 450 Cost: 340 70
Wings repair Research: 500 Cost: 380 80	Engine Research: 500 Cost: 380 80
Engine injection Research: 640 Cost: 480 105

Airframe

Research:

450

Cost:

340

70

Cover

Research:

640

Cost:

480

105

safat12_turret_belt_pack

Research:

400

Cost:

300

65

ho103_turret_new_gun

Research:

450

Cost:

340

70

Type88_75mm_belt_pack

Research:

500

Cost:

380

80

Type88_75mm_new_gun

Research:

640

Cost:

480

105

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 175 mm Type 88 cannon

Ammunition15 rounds

Fire rate21 shots/min

Main article: Type 88 (75 mm)

The Ki-109 is armed with:

1 x 75 mm Type 88 cannon, nose-mounted (15 rpg)

Defensive armament

Turret12.7 mm Ho-104 machine gun

Ammunition500 rounds

Fire rate900 shots/min

Main article: Ho-104 (12.7 mm)

The Ki-109 is defended by:

1 x 12.7 mm Ho-104 machine gun, dorsal turret (500 rpg)

There is a rear machine gunner who can protect the plane's tail. Its defensive armament can be underwhelming to deal with fighters that will attack you.

Usage in battles

The Ki-109 isn't only about using the gun to attack ground targets, its also about intercepting enemies and returning safe and sound. While designed as an interceptor, the climbing rate is inadequate for this role when in stock condition. Sideclimbing is a mandatory rule one should obey to. Despite its size, which resembles a medium bomber, the Ki-109 is surprisingly manoeuvrable. Comparable to all twin-engined heavy fighters and on par with Germany's Fw 190 series. Still, it's better not to use those blessings for dog-fighting a fighter: use the Ki-109's manoeuvrability to evade the enemy bomber's defensive gunners if the first pass of a bomber interception fails. Another way to use the manoeuvrability is to outmanoeuvre inexperienced pilots in a heavy bomber who try to evade the first shot by making a turn like a single-engine fighter for another pass. Or, in ground attack at low altitude, the Ki-109 can regain its position quickly for another pass on enemy tanks below.

Boasting a 75 mm Type 88 cannon, the gun is quite versatile in taking down both air and ground targets. This, however, is not without drawbacks: 15 rounds of ammo total, combined with its very low rate of fire and relatively low bullet velocity, means every shot counts since there are no other offensive weapons on the Ki-109. It is advised to seek assistance from teammates to hunt down bombers. The recoil of the gun itself is another issue to consider, so in order to minimise inaccurate shots, try to shoot the target during a shallow dive. The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 have a large explosive filler. While they are very deadly against ground and smaller naval targets, the shells will often simply fly though an enemy plane's airframe and will not detonate. They still can severe a wing but this requires an unusual accuracy. Thus it is still recommended to use the HEIF-T belts against air targets as it features a much better shell velocity and will detonate on impact.

The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 do not penetrate light/normal pillboxes in direct hits, but they are very effective against all tanks upon direct hit.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer	Pitch	Radiator			Supercharger	Turbocharger
Mixer	Pitch	Oil	Water	Type	Supercharger	Turbocharger
Controllable	Controllable Not auto controlled	Not controllable Not auto controlled	Controllable Not auto controlled	Combined	Controllable 2 gears	Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

Powerful 75 mm gun, effective against both bombers and tanks
Relatively good performance and agility for its size
Self-sealing fuel tanks

Cons:

No forward-firing armament besides the 75 mm gun
Very low rate of fire for the main gun and low ammunition capacity
Extremely weak defensive armament
No armour besides the 75 mm gun cradle

History

In 1943, the decision was made to develop a new heavy fighter/interceptor based on the existing Ki-67 bomber. The new design was part of Japanese efforts to counter strategic high-altitude bombing conducted by heavy US bombers, such as the B-29 Superfortress, on the Japanese home islands. To achieve this, Mitsubishi engineers proposed the installation of the 75mm Type 88 anti-aircraft cannon inside the aircraft's nose. The project, designated as Ki-109, was approved in early 1944 and the first two prototypes were already completed in late summer of the same year.

However, as initial testing showed that the aircraft was lacking speed due to its high mass, measures were taken to remove unnecessary equipment in order to save on weight. During this process, the Ki-109 lost most of its defensive turrets and only retained the one located in the tail section. Another attempt to improve the aircraft's speed was the intended installation of the new, more powerful Ha-104ru engines in the following production batch, however this idea was quickly dropped due to the engine having reliability issues, thus production continued with the standard Ha-104 engines.

In March of 1945, 22 Ki-109s were delivered to the 107th Sentai unit, which was tasked with protecting the strategically important cities of Tokyo and Yokohama from air raids. In July, only a few months before the war came to a close, the 107th Sentai was formally disbanded, leaving behind some Ki-109s to be tested for effectiveness against ships, this also marking the end of the aircraft's operational service.

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the Ki-109 from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

The Shooting Range #260 - Challenge section at 09:58 discusses the Ki-109.

The Shooting Range #259 - Tips & Tricks section at 10:29 discusses the Ki-109.

External links

*Mitsubishi Company (三菱商会)*
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 == Description ==
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-[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is based on the Mitsubishi [[Ki-67 (Family)|Ki-67]] heavy bomber, refitted as an interceptor in an attempt to counter the American high-altitude bombing raids that devastated Japan. It is armed with a 75 mm anti-aircraft gun modified for aircraft use, and almost all defensive armament from the bomber version has been stripped, except for the tail turret, to maximize performance.
-{{Break}}
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese twin-engine fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A."]].
-Based on the Mitsubishi Ki-67 'heavy' bomber, the Ki-109 was designed as an interceptor in an attempt to counter the American bombing raids that devastated Japan. It is armed with a 75 mm anti-aircraft gun modified for aircraft use, and almost all defensive armament from the bomber version has been stripped, except for the tail turret, in order to maximise performance.
+This bomber-interceptor was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A."]]. Its 75 mm gun is effective against bombers but should not be used on agile fighters or fast-moving vehicles. The Ki-109's defensive armament is poor, and conflicts with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained.
-In-game, the Ki-109 functions much as it was intended to in reality. The 75 mm gun is effective against bombers, but struggles to hit small agile targets such as fighters. Its own defensive armament is very poor, and it should avoid combat with fighters at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained.
 == General info ==
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 === Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
-''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
+<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
+The fuselage durability is strong enough to shrug off machine gun fire and some cannon rounds. The Ki-109 doesn't have any armour except on the bottom of the gun itself, which is quite meaningless for the overall plane. The pilot has neither bulleproof glass nor armoured seat and the tail gunner is not protected either. Due to this, head-on attacks are strongly unadvised. Use the aircraft's manoeuvrability to evade incoming enemies in front of the plane. The Ki-109 is equipped with self-sealing tanks, meaning it can survive one of its wings being set alight and continue to fly. Though, it is advised to retreat to base if that happens.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 * 1 x 12.7 mm Ho-104 machine gun, dorsal turret (500 rpg)
+There is a rear machine gunner who can protect the plane's tail. Its defensive armament can be underwhelming to deal with fighters that will attack you.
 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-Ki-109 isn't only about the gun to attack ground targets, its also about intercepting enemies and returning safe and sound. While designed as an interceptor, the climbing rate is inadequate for this role when in stock condition; sideclimbing is a mandatory rule one should obey to. Despite its size, which resembles as medium bomber, Ki-109 is surprisingly manoeuvrable among all – if not, all nation – Japanese twin-engined heavy fighter, on par with Germany's Fw 190 series. Still, it's better not to use those blessings for dog-fighting a fighter: use the Ki-109's manoeuvrability to evade the bomber's defensive gunner if the first pass of a bomber interception fails. Another way to use the manoeuvrability is to outmaneuver inexperienced pilots in a heavy bomber who tries to evade the first shot by making a turn like a single-engine fighter for another pass. Or at a lower altitude, the Ki-109 can regain its position quickly for another pass on enemy tanks below.
+The Ki-109 isn't only about using the gun to attack ground targets, its also about intercepting enemies and returning safe and sound. While designed as an interceptor, the climbing rate is inadequate for this role when in stock condition. Sideclimbing is a mandatory rule one should obey to. Despite its size, which resembles a medium bomber, the Ki-109 is surprisingly manoeuvrable. Comparable to all twin-engined heavy fighters and on par with Germany's Fw 190 series. Still, it's better not to use those blessings for dog-fighting a fighter: use the Ki-109's manoeuvrability to evade the enemy bomber's defensive gunners if the first pass of a bomber interception fails. Another way to use the manoeuvrability is to outmanoeuvre inexperienced pilots in a heavy bomber who try to evade the first shot by making a turn like a single-engine fighter for another pass. Or, in ground attack at low altitude, the Ki-109 can regain its position quickly for another pass on enemy tanks below.
-The fuselage durability proved strong to shrug off machine gun calibre and some cannon. To add to the plane's defensive value, there is a rear machine gunner which could protect the plane's six o' clock. While so, its defensive armament can be underperforming, and it's more likely to lose the defensive gunner before an enemy plane is damaged as there are no protective glass protecting the gunner. In fact, the Ki-109 doesn't have any armour except at the bottom of the gun itself, which is quite meaningless for the overall plane. Due to this, head-on attacks is strongly unadvised and use the plane's manoeuvrability to evade incoming enemies in front of the plane. The plane is equipped with self-sealing tanks like in every Japanese heavy fighters, meaning the Ki-109 can withstand to accomplish its task(though, it is advised to retreat to base) while one of the wings are burning without breaking it.
+Boasting a 75 mm Type 88 cannon, the gun is quite versatile in taking down both air and ground targets. This, however, is not without  drawbacks: 15 rounds of ammo total, combined with its very low rate of fire and relatively low bullet velocity, means every shot counts since there are no other offensive weapons on the Ki-109. It is advised to seek assistance from teammates to hunt down bombers. The recoil of the gun itself is another issue to consider, so in order to minimise inaccurate shots, try to shoot the target during a shallow dive. The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 have a large explosive filler. While they are very deadly against ground and smaller naval targets, the shells will often simply fly though an enemy plane's airframe and will not detonate. They still can severe a wing but this requires an unusual accuracy. Thus it is still recommended to use the HEIF-T belts against air targets as it features a much better shell velocity and will detonate on impact.
-Boasting a 75 mm Type 88, the gun itself quite versatile to take down both air and ground targets. This, however not without the drawbacks: 15 rounds of ammo stocked in the guns combined with very low rate of fire and somewhat low bullet velocity means ever shot should count because there are no secondary weapons equipped in the Ki-109. It is advised to seek an assistance with teammates to hunt down bombers. The recoil of the gun itself is another issue to settle off, so in order to minimise inaccurate shot, try to shoot the target during shallow dive. One thing to note, unlike any armour-piercing ammo where it contains not more than 90 gram, the ammo used in Type 88 filled with 460 gram of TNT, which proved overkill to take down even the biggest heavy bomber like Pe-8. Therefore, it is advisable to use AP-T ammo in every battle due its filling, while the HEFI-T has more 30 grams of TNT.
+The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 do not penetrate light/normal pillboxes in direct hits, but they are very effective against all tanks upon direct hit.
 === Manual Engine Control ===
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 | Controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Combined || Controllable<br>2 gears || Not controllable
-|-
-|}
-=== Modules ===
-{| class="wikitable"
-! Tier
-! colspan="2" | Flight performance
-! Survivability
-! Weaponry
-|-
-| I
-| Fuselage repair
-| Radiator
-|
-| Turret 12 mm
-|-
-| II
-|
-| Compressor
-| Airframe
-| New 12 mm MGs (turret)
-|-
-| III
-| Wings repair
-| Engine
-|
-| Offensive 75 mm
-|-
-| IV
-|
-| Engine injection
-| Cover
-| New 75 mm cannons
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Powerful 75 mm gun, effective against bombers and tanks
+* Powerful 75 mm gun, effective against both bombers and tanks
 * Relatively good performance and agility for its size
 * Self-sealing fuel tanks
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 '''Cons:'''
-* No forward-firing armament besides 75 mm gun
+* No forward-firing armament besides the 75 mm gun
-* Very low rate-of-fire for the 75 mm gun
+* Very low rate of fire for the main gun and low ammunition capacity
 * Extremely weak defensive armament
 * No armour besides the 75 mm gun cradle
 == History ==
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
+<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
+In 1943, the decision was made to develop a new heavy fighter/interceptor based on the existing Ki-67 bomber. The new design was part of Japanese efforts to counter strategic high-altitude bombing conducted by heavy US bombers, such as the [[B-29/Tu-4 (Family)|B-29]] Superfortress, on the Japanese home islands. To achieve this, Mitsubishi engineers proposed the installation of the 75mm Type 88 anti-aircraft cannon inside the aircraft's nose. The project, designated as Ki-109, was approved in early 1944 and the first two prototypes were already completed in late summer of the same year.
+However, as initial testing showed that the aircraft was lacking speed due to its high mass, measures were taken to remove unnecessary equipment in order to save on weight. During this process, the Ki-109 lost most of its defensive turrets and only retained the one located in the tail section. Another attempt to improve the aircraft's speed was the intended installation of the new, more powerful Ha-104ru engines in the following production batch, however this idea was quickly dropped due to the engine having reliability issues, thus production continued with the standard Ha-104 engines.
+In March of 1945, 22 Ki-109s were delivered to the 107th Sentai unit, which was tasked with protecting the strategically important cities of Tokyo and Yokohama from air raids. In July, only a few months before the war came to a close, the 107th Sentai was formally disbanded, leaving behind some Ki-109s to be tested for effectiveness against ships, this also marking the end of the aircraft's operational service.
 == Media ==
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
+;Skins
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ki_109 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+;Videos
+{{Youtube-gallery|GSSJKUqU3WE|'''The Shooting Range #260''' - ''Challenge'' section at 09:58 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|ObEcMPqFBbE|'''The Shooting Range #259''' - ''Tips & Tricks'' section at 10:29 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
 == See also ==
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+<!-- ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
+* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
+* [[PBJ-1H]]
+* [[XA-38]]
+* [[Hs 129 B-3]]
+* [[P.108A serie 2]]
 == External links ==
 <!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
-* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->
 * [[wt:en/news/4934-development-mitsubishi-ki-109-an-unexpected-threat-en|[Devblog] Mitsubishi Ki-109: "An Unexpected Threat"]]
+* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/378376-ki-109/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
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+{{Japan twin-engine fighters and strike aircraft}}

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Difference between revisions of "Ki-109"

Revision as of 04:34, 24 March 2023

Contents

Description

General info

Flight performance

Details

Survivability and armour

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Offensive armament

Defensive armament

Usage in battles

Manual Engine Control

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links