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=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
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− | + | The M47 armor is a middle point between the M26 and an M48, it has decent hull armor which is able to stop full caliber solid shots from almost all vehicles it will face. However, it is not able to withstand sub-calibers like British APDS. Turret is inconsitent when it comes to full caliber and sub-calibers. Turret mantel it able to withstand calibers lower than 105mm but cheeks may even stop 122mm when full caliber is being shot. However they may not be able to stop sub-calibers from almost all calibers. Armor should not be relied on most of the cases due to inconsistency against threats seen in combat. However, this does not mean the armor should not be used at all. When facing Russian and American tanks, armor is suficient to completely shatter or partially stop the shell, this is due to full caliber APHE and APCBC have relatively low penetration (215mm-250mm). The story changes when facing British APDS from all calibers, from 24pdr (84mm) to 120mm. They have the same penetration and higher than the M47 (105/55) APDS, meaning they will easily penetrate you without effort. Now, there are some aspects when it comes to APDS. Due to being sub-caliber, they have penetration over post-penetration effects. All the spalling is dependent on the armor thickness. This can be considered good or bad depending on where the APDS is being fired at. Hits to the hull frontal plate will most likely kill your driver and loader (if hit on the right side if seen from the front) or gunner and commander (if hit on the left side if seen from the front). Turret hits are often one shot kills if fired at the right places. In a 60° frontal arc, all hits will take at most 2 crew members unless it is a high caliber round like the [[Conway]]'s 120mm. Past 60°, all hits are most likely to be one shot kill, specially if the hit is made at a turret side as breach is not big enough to stop the spalling. Hits on the turret back are confirmed kills, however, hits on the engine deck can be painful due to fire but will not instantly destroy the M47. The engine and transmission are big enough to stop all spalling and rounds it will see except darts. | |
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=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
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− | {{tankMobility|abMinHp= 1162|rbMinHp= 663}} | + | {{tankMobility|abMinHp= 1162|rbMinHp= 663}}Mobility wise, the M47 is a fatter M26. Not too fast but not too slow either. It has a powerful engine that is able to pull and push almost all tanks in the battlefield while being able to maintain decent mobility. It does not have neutral steering per se as it is not fully on its own axis. However it does have really good reverse speed (for its size) as well as acceleration for both forward and reverse gears. Top speed is higher than the M26 but is not too fast, expected from a Patton tank. |
=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
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− | {{main|OTO Melara 105/55 (105 mm)}} | + | {{main|OTO Melara 105/55 (105 mm)}}This specific M47 is armed with the OTO Melara 105/55, the only M47 in game to have a 105mm gun at 7.3. It is similar to the L7A3 Royal Ordnance 105mm gun seen in other vehicles (Centurion Mk.10, Leopard 1, Vickers MBT) and the M68 105mm gun (M60A1-A3). However, its handling is similar to the OTO Melara 105/52 of the Centauro, mainly for using exactly the same ammunition. |
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==== Ammunition ==== | ==== Ammunition ==== | ||
+ | This M47 is the most powerful M47 seen in game firepower wise. It has the same ammunition as the Centauro but at 7.3. | ||
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+ | * M392A2: despite being APDS and the stock round, this round is one of the most powerful sub-caliber rounds the Italian have access to at Rank 5. The penetration, flight speed and post penetration effects are really great for beating almost all tanks it faces with exception of the T-55AM-1. This round is underestimated for the fact it does not have the same penetration the M456 has. However it comes more in handy to use APDS most of the time than HEAT-FS mainly for the fact that it can be used easier for longer engagements and will not detonate with trees and bushes. | ||
+ | * M393A2: the HESH round is 90% of the time useless unless trapshots are wanted/needed. The use for it is really situational and it is much better to carry APDS or HEAT-FS for all anti-tank purposes. | ||
+ | * M456: this is the pinnacle of heavy armor destroying, mainly for the fact that it has a continious penetration through all its flight time. This is not recommended to be carried as the main shell for the previous statements. However it is recommended to carry some to defeat heavy armor the APDS is unable to penetrate. | ||
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics | ! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
− | + | The M47 is a slow pushing tank with a powerful anti-tank gun. It should not be used as the frontal line armor but should not be used as only support. Depending on the map, the commander must evaluate and take the required actions and tactics for it to work. With powerful gun, it's more than capable of dealing with 90% of the tanks it will see at any ranges. | |
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+ | '''List of opponents important notes when facing frontally:''' | ||
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+ | * [[Panzer V Panther (Family)|Panther]]/[[M48 Patton (Family)|M48]]/[[M26 (Family)|Pershing]]: all front can be penetrated with APDS | ||
+ | * [[M60 (Family)|M60]]: gun mantlet can be penetrated by APDS, hull has to be penetrated by HEAT-FS | ||
+ | * [[Tiger II (Family)|Tiger II]]: all front can be penetrated by all rounds | ||
+ | * [[Centurion (Family)|Centurion]]: all front can be penetrated with APDS and higher penetration rounds | ||
+ | * [[M103]]: hull has to be penetrated by HEAT-FS, center of mass shot has to be done frontally as the hull and turret are curvy, hull is impenetrable by all rounds | ||
+ | * [[T32]]/[[T32E1]]: gun mantlet and hull have to be penetrated by HEAT-FS or APDS, aim at lower half of the frontal glacis to fire at ammunition rack | ||
+ | * [[Maus]]/[[E-100]]: gun mantlet has to be penetrated by HEAT-FS, hull is impenetrable by all rounds. Side shots have to be done with APDS or HEAT-FS. | ||
+ | * [[Jagdtiger]]: all front can be penetrated by all rounds | ||
+ | * [[Leopard 1 (Family)|Leopard 1]]/[[AMX-30 (Family)|AMX-30]]: all front can be penetrated with APDS and higher penetration rounds | ||
+ | * [[T95]]: gun mantlet and hull have to be penetrated by HEAT-FS | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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Revision as of 16:21, 18 February 2021
This page is about the Italian medium tank M47 (105/55). For the version in the American tree, see M47. |
Contents
Description
The M47 (105/55) OTO is a Rank V Italian medium tank with a battle rating of 7.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".
General info
Survivability and armour
The M47 armor is a middle point between the M26 and an M48, it has decent hull armor which is able to stop full caliber solid shots from almost all vehicles it will face. However, it is not able to withstand sub-calibers like British APDS. Turret is inconsitent when it comes to full caliber and sub-calibers. Turret mantel it able to withstand calibers lower than 105mm but cheeks may even stop 122mm when full caliber is being shot. However they may not be able to stop sub-calibers from almost all calibers. Armor should not be relied on most of the cases due to inconsistency against threats seen in combat. However, this does not mean the armor should not be used at all. When facing Russian and American tanks, armor is suficient to completely shatter or partially stop the shell, this is due to full caliber APHE and APCBC have relatively low penetration (215mm-250mm). The story changes when facing British APDS from all calibers, from 24pdr (84mm) to 120mm. They have the same penetration and higher than the M47 (105/55) APDS, meaning they will easily penetrate you without effort. Now, there are some aspects when it comes to APDS. Due to being sub-caliber, they have penetration over post-penetration effects. All the spalling is dependent on the armor thickness. This can be considered good or bad depending on where the APDS is being fired at. Hits to the hull frontal plate will most likely kill your driver and loader (if hit on the right side if seen from the front) or gunner and commander (if hit on the left side if seen from the front). Turret hits are often one shot kills if fired at the right places. In a 60° frontal arc, all hits will take at most 2 crew members unless it is a high caliber round like the Conway's 120mm. Past 60°, all hits are most likely to be one shot kill, specially if the hit is made at a turret side as breach is not big enough to stop the spalling. Hits on the turret back are confirmed kills, however, hits on the engine deck can be painful due to fire but will not instantly destroy the M47. The engine and transmission are big enough to stop all spalling and rounds it will see except darts.
Mobility
Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
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Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
Arcade | 53 | 22 | 46.3 | 1162 | 1,431 | 25.1 | 30.91 |
Realistic | 48 | 20 | 663 | 750 | 14.32 | 16.2 |
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Main armament
105 mm OTO Melara 105/55 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
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Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
Arcade | 71 | -5°/+19° | ±180° | N/A | 28.6 | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | 8.7 | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ |
Realistic | 17.9 | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ |
Ammunition
This M47 is the most powerful M47 seen in game firepower wise. It has the same ammunition as the Centauro but at 7.3.
- M392A2: despite being APDS and the stock round, this round is one of the most powerful sub-caliber rounds the Italian have access to at Rank 5. The penetration, flight speed and post penetration effects are really great for beating almost all tanks it faces with exception of the T-55AM-1. This round is underestimated for the fact it does not have the same penetration the M456 has. However it comes more in handy to use APDS most of the time than HEAT-FS mainly for the fact that it can be used easier for longer engagements and will not detonate with trees and bushes.
- M393A2: the HESH round is 90% of the time useless unless trapshots are wanted/needed. The use for it is really situational and it is much better to carry APDS or HEAT-FS for all anti-tank purposes.
- M456: this is the pinnacle of heavy armor destroying, mainly for the fact that it has a continious penetration through all its flight time. This is not recommended to be carried as the main shell for the previous statements. However it is recommended to carry some to defeat heavy armor the APDS is unable to penetrate.
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
M392A2 | APDS | 303 | 302 | 296 | 277 | 257 | 252 |
M393A2 | HESH | 127 | 127 | 127 | 127 | 127 | 127 |
M456 | HEATFS | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 |
Shell details | |||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile Mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | ||
0% | 50% | 100% | |||||||
M392A2 | APDS | 1,478 | 4 | N/A | N/A | N/A | 75° | 78° | 80° |
M393A2 | HESH | 732 | 14.85 | 0.4 | 0.1 | 4,310 | 73° | 77° | 80° |
M456 | HEATFS | 1,173 | 10.5 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 1,270 | 65° | 72° | 75° |
Ammo racks
Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
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71 | 42 (+29) | 12 (+59) | 10 (+61) | 7 (+64) | 1 (+70) | No |
Notes:
- As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire both shells in the set.
- Shells are modeled by sets of 2 and disappear from the rack after both shells in the set having been shot or loaded.
- Racks 3 to 5 are first stage ammo racks. They total 11 shells and gets filled first when loading up the tank.
- These racks are also emptied early: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 3 - 4 - 5 - 1 - 2.
- Simply not firing when the gun is loaded will move ammo from racks 1-6 into racks 8 then 7. Firing will interrupt the restocking of the ready racks.
Machine guns
12.7 mm M2HB | |||||
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Mount | Total Ammo | Shots per Belt | Fire rate | Vertical guidance | Horizontal guidance |
Pintle | 1,000 | 200 | 576 | -_°/+_° | ±180° |
7.62 mm M1919A4 | |||||
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Mount | Total Ammo | Shots per Belt | Fire rate | Vertical guidance | Horizontal guidance |
Coaxial | 4,900 | 250 | 500 | Not Applicable (Fixed) |
Usage in battles
The M47 is a slow pushing tank with a powerful anti-tank gun. It should not be used as the frontal line armor but should not be used as only support. Depending on the map, the commander must evaluate and take the required actions and tactics for it to work. With powerful gun, it's more than capable of dealing with 90% of the tanks it will see at any ranges.
List of opponents important notes when facing frontally:
- Panther/M48/Pershing: all front can be penetrated with APDS
- M60: gun mantlet can be penetrated by APDS, hull has to be penetrated by HEAT-FS
- Tiger II: all front can be penetrated by all rounds
- Centurion: all front can be penetrated with APDS and higher penetration rounds
- M103: hull has to be penetrated by HEAT-FS, center of mass shot has to be done frontally as the hull and turret are curvy, hull is impenetrable by all rounds
- T32/T32E1: gun mantlet and hull have to be penetrated by HEAT-FS or APDS, aim at lower half of the frontal glacis to fire at ammunition rack
- Maus/E-100: gun mantlet has to be penetrated by HEAT-FS, hull is impenetrable by all rounds. Side shots have to be done with APDS or HEAT-FS.
- Jagdtiger: all front can be penetrated by all rounds
- Leopard 1/AMX-30: all front can be penetrated with APDS and higher penetration rounds
- T95: gun mantlet and hull have to be penetrated by HEAT-FS
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Better main gun than on the original M47.
- Decent frontal armour.
- Has a .50 cal machine gun for warding off incoming airplanes.
Cons:
- Shot trap can deflect shells off the bottom of the turret mantlet and into the tank.
- Armor can still be penetrated by most enemies, especially by HEAT-FS and Sabot rounds.
History
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Media
- Skins
- Videos
See also
- Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
External links
Italy medium tanks | |
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Italy | |
M13/40 | M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III) |
M14/41 | M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40) |
M15/42 | M15/42 |
M16/43 | Celere Sahariano |
P26/40 | P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello" |
OF-40 | OF-40 · OF-40 Mk.2A · OF-40 (MTCA) |
Ariete | Ariete (P) · Ariete · Ariete PSO · Ariete AMV |
Germany | ▄Pz.III N · ▄Pz.IV G · ▄Leopard 1A5 |
Allied powers | ▄Sherman I Composito · Sherman Ic · ▄Sherman Vc · ▄Sherman V · M26 "D.C.Ariete" · M26A1 · M47 (105/55) · M60A1 "D.C.Ariete" |
Hungary | |
Turán | Turan I · Turan II · Turan III |
Germany | ◔Leopard 2A4 · Leopard 2A7HU |
USSR | ◔T-72M1 |