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* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks, sprocket wheels, torsion bars, and return rollers are 20 mm thick. | * Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks, sprocket wheels, torsion bars, and return rollers are 20 mm thick. | ||
* Belly armour is 10 mm thick. | * Belly armour is 10 mm thick. | ||
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif. | ! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif. | ||
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− | | ''Realistic'' || | + | | ''Realistic'' || 3.57 || 4.2 || 5.1 || 5.64 || 6.0 |
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds) | ! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds) | ||
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Some targets to keep in mind of, and their weak points: | Some targets to keep in mind of, and their weak points: | ||
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* Tiger I - While seemingly a hard enemy to face, the Tiger is easily dispatched with a side shot. A hit to the roadwheels will penetrate the tank, with the shell fragments going through the thin armor on the underside of the tank's sponson. This is also possible to do to Tiger IIs, but usually results in much less damage done. | * Tiger I - While seemingly a hard enemy to face, the Tiger is easily dispatched with a side shot. A hit to the roadwheels will penetrate the tank, with the shell fragments going through the thin armor on the underside of the tank's sponson. This is also possible to do to Tiger IIs, but usually results in much less damage done. | ||
* Tiger II P, Panthers D and A - a hit to the bottom of the curved turret face of these tanks will cause the HE shell to pen the roof of the vehicle. This can also be done on tanks with flat turret fronts ( Tiger I, Tiger II H, Panthers G and F) by aiming for the lower half of the turret, but is not as reliable. | * Tiger II P, Panthers D and A - a hit to the bottom of the curved turret face of these tanks will cause the HE shell to pen the roof of the vehicle. This can also be done on tanks with flat turret fronts ( Tiger I, Tiger II H, Panthers G and F) by aiming for the lower half of the turret, but is not as reliable. | ||
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* [[Wikipedia:Obusier_de_155_mm_Mod%C3%A8le_50|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Obusier de 155mm Modèle 50 (The gun)]] | * [[Wikipedia:Obusier_de_155_mm_Mod%C3%A8le_50|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Obusier de 155mm Modèle 50 (The gun)]] | ||
* [[Wikipedia:AMX-50#Char_Lorraine|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> AMX-50 - Char Lorraine (The chassis)]] | * [[Wikipedia:AMX-50#Char_Lorraine|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> AMX-50 - Char Lorraine (The chassis)]] |
Revision as of 00:49, 18 May 2019
Contents
Description
The Lorraine automoteur de 155 mm modèle 1950 (shortened as Lorraine 155 Mle.50) is a gift rank III French tank destroyer
with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" during the 2018 World War Two Chronicles.
General info
Survivability and armour
The Lorraine 155 Mle.50 has very little armour (although some are sloped enough to deflect certain low-rank rounds), and can generally be penetrated by most guns of its rank. Even worse, however, the 'casemate' (if it can even be called that) has very little armour, and in some places can be shot through with machine guns. The commander (operating the 151) is completely open to the elements. Generally, you want to rely on good map placement and mobility, rather than armour.
Armour type:
- Rolled homogeneous armour
- Structural steel
Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
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Hull | 16 mm (70°) Front glacis 16 mm (2-73°) Transmission housing |
16 mm | 10 mm (0-42°) | 10 mm |
Superstructure | 16 mm (21°) Front 10 mm Gun shield |
16 mm (30°) Right side 16 mm (21-48°) Left side |
10 mm | 10 mm |
Armour | Sides | Roof | ||
Cupola | 10 mm | N/A |
Notes:
- Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks, sprocket wheels, torsion bars, and return rollers are 20 mm thick.
- Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
Mobility
Mobility characteristic | ||
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Weight (tons) | Add-on Armour weight (tons) |
Max speed (km/h) |
28.0 | N/A | 59 (AB) |
55 (RB/SB) | ||
Engine power (horsepower) | ||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded |
Arcade | 639 | 787 |
Realistic/Simulator | 398 | 450 |
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | ||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded |
Arcade | 22.82 | 28.11 |
Realistic/Simulator | 14.21 | 16.07 |
Armaments
Main armament
155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 | |||||
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Capacity | Vertical guidance |
Horizontal guidance |
Stabilizer | ||
30 | -5°/+67° | ±20° | N/A | ||
Turret rotation speed (°/s) | |||||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. |
Arcade | 5.27 | 7.31 | 8.88 | 9.82 | 10.45 |
Realistic | 3.57 | 4.2 | 5.1 | 5.64 | 6.0 |
Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||
Stock | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. | ||
26.0 | 23.0 | 21.2 | 20.0 |
Ammunition
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack | |||||
10m | 100m | 500m | 1000m | 1500m | 2000m | ||
M107 | HE | 53 | 53 | 53 | 53 | 53 | 53 |
Shell details | ||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity in m/s |
Projectile Mass in kg |
Fuse delay
in m: |
Fuse sensitivity
in mm: |
Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent): |
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: |
Ricochet: | ||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||
M107 | HE | 563 | 41 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 6,620 | +0° | 79° | 80° | 81° |
Smoke characteristic | ||||||
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Ammunition | Velocity in m/s |
Projectile Mass in kg |
Screen radius in m |
Screen time in s |
Screen hold time in s: |
Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent): |
M110 | 563 | 41 | 25 | 5 | 30 | 50 |
Ammo racks
Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy | |
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30 | XX (X+) | (+) | (+) | (+) | (+) | (+) | Turret empty: () | no |
Machine guns
20 mm MG151/20 | ||||||
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Commander's mount | ||||||
Capacity (Belt capacity) | Fire rate (shots/minute) |
Vertical guidance |
Horizontal guidance | |||
400 (250) | 700 | -8°/+45° | ±180° |
Usage in battles
The best method of using the large-calibre weapon on the Loraine is to exploit the high-explosive power against thin-armour on the enemy. Like other large calibre HE tanks, shooting below an enemy vehicle will penetrate its belly armor. This is an effective, albeit difficult way to engage tanks whose armor is greater than what your HE shell can penetrate.
Some targets to keep in mind of, and their weak points:
- Tiger I - While seemingly a hard enemy to face, the Tiger is easily dispatched with a side shot. A hit to the roadwheels will penetrate the tank, with the shell fragments going through the thin armor on the underside of the tank's sponson. This is also possible to do to Tiger IIs, but usually results in much less damage done.
- Tiger II P, Panthers D and A - a hit to the bottom of the curved turret face of these tanks will cause the HE shell to pen the roof of the vehicle. This can also be done on tanks with flat turret fronts ( Tiger I, Tiger II H, Panthers G and F) by aiming for the lower half of the turret, but is not as reliable.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Powerful 155mm gun with a HE shell on-par with the KV-2's gun
- Pintle-mounted 20mm cannon that is deadly to lightly-armoured vehicles and aircraft
- Decent mobility
- Thin armour can allow APHE rounds to penetrate through harmlessly without detonating
Cons:
- Thin armor with an open casemate, allows even rifle-calibre rounds to affect the crew
- Large profile
- Long reload time; increases if the loader is taken out
- If the commander is knocked out, so is the ability to use the 20mm cannon
- No AP shells, only HE shells
- Bad gun depression of 5°
History
Prototypes of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 passed trials in 1950, but never reached production.
Media
Skin and Camouflages for the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 in Warthunder Live.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
France tank destroyers | |
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Lorraine 40t derivatives | CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50 |
ATGM | MEPHISTO · AMX-10M |
Other | AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1 |
USA | ▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2 |
France premium ground vehicles | |
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Light tanks | AMD.35 (SA35) · H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) · VBCI-2 (MCT30) |
Medium tanks | M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super · AMX-50 (TO90/930) |
Heavy tanks | B1 ter · 2C bis · Somua SM |
Tank destroyers | Lorraine 155 Mle.50 |