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* Drives as fast as [[Vickers Mk.7]] at 80 km/h on demand
 
* Drives as fast as [[Vickers Mk.7]] at 80 km/h on demand
* Retains pro's of base challenger 2:
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* Very survivable armour profile
** Very survivable armour profile
 
** Adequate firepower
 
** Sometimes overwhelming rate of fire
 
 
* Has a 12.7 mm machine gun
 
* Has a 12.7 mm machine gun
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Does not carry over any super powerful upgrades of the Black Night or 2F, its just a stupidly fast basic Challenger 2
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* Does not carry over any super powerful upgrades of the Black Night or 2F, its just a basic, but fast Challenger 2
* Retains vulnerabilities of base Challenger 2:
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* Large and vulnerable weak spots are present that cannot be hidden
** Large and vulnerable weak spots that cannot be hidden
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* Minimal anti-air capabilities despite new machine gun
** Minimal anti-air capabilities despite new machine gun
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* Retains same ammunition as old Challengers, armour is not powerful enough to compensate when fighting top tanks on high ground
** Retains same ammunition as old Challengers, armour is not powerful enough to compensate when fighting top tanks on high ground
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* Reload rate slows down significantly once ready rack is emptied
** Reload rate slows down significantly once ready rack is emptied
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==

Latest revision as of 02:49, 5 February 2024

Introducing Wiki 3.0
This page is about the British medium tank Challenger 2E. For other versions, see Challenger 2 (Family).
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Challenger 2E
AB RB SB
12.0 12.0 12.0
Class:
Research:200 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:1 100 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

The Challenger 2 (Export) is an export modification of the FV4034 Challenger 2 main battle tank. It has a new integrated weapon control and battlefield management system that includes a gyro-stabilised panoramic SAGEM MVS 580 day/thermal sight for the commander and a gyro-stabilised panoramic SAGEM SAVAN 15 day/thermal sight for the gunner, both with a laser rangefinder. With a common engagement mechanism, this gives the tank hunter-killing capability. Optionally, a servo-controlled overhead weapons platform can be slaved to the commander's sight and operated independently of turret rotation. The power pack has been replaced by a new 1,500-horsepower EuroPowerPack with a transversely mounted MTU MT883 diesel engine and Renk HSWL 295TM automatic transmission. Significant improvements in vehicle performance and durability have been made. The EuroPowerPack, which is smaller but more powerful, includes a cooling system and air intake filtration system for desert combat. In 2002, BAE Systems made an attempt principally aimed at exporting to the Hellenic Army, a competition won by the Leopard 2 main battle tanks. BAE later declared that the development and export marketing of Challenger 2E would be discontinued in 2005.

Introduced in Update "Sky Guardians", the Challenger 2E is very similar to the standard Challenger 2, with the exception of much-needed increase in mobility. This is owing to its improved EuroPowerPack, which includes a transversely mounted MTU MT883 diesel engine in place of the comparatively underpowered Perkins CV12-6A found in all previous Challenger 2 models. Players can play slightly more aggressively during battles by rushing to strategic locations early on during matches.

General info

Survivability and armour

Composite armour
Balanced protection against all types of ammunition
Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
ESS
Creation of a smoke screen in the direction of movement of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull130 / 38 / 50
Turret270 / 90 / 58
Crew4 people
Visibility88 %

Like all Challenger 2 tanks, the armour is exceptional. It is capable of defeating even the most powerful of APFSDS rounds when hull-down, and it can even withstand HEAT rounds to the sides. Nonetheless, it has a few weak spots, particularly the cannon breech and the lower glacis.

The armour profile of the Challenger 2E is practically identical to all other Challenger 2 tanks, so there should be no difficulty in adapting from its predecessors.

Furthermore, the Challenger 2E lacks any additional armour packages, and does not have access to an active protection system, leaving it marginally more vulnerable than all other Challenger 2 variants.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour
  • Composite armour
  • Structural steel
  • Gun steel
  • Rubber-fabric screens
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 38-50 mm (60-83°) Upper glacis
70 mm (28°) Lower glacis
60 mm (0-83°) Driver's port
25 mm (71°) Top
25 mm Middle
38 mm (14°) Bottom
50 mm (29-65°) 10-20 mm (79-90°)
Turret 100 mm (50°) Turret cheeks
30 mm (13-50°) Gun mantlet
10-20 mm (8-10°) 20 mm (18°) 10-38 mm (0-15°)
Cupola 60 mm 60 mm 60 mm 44 mm

Notes:

  • There are two 50 mm RHA plates on the Turret Cheeks leading to a total of 100 mm.
  • Negligible structural steel surrounds the hull.
  • There is a 38 mm thick set of cast steel armour in the turrets crew compartment.
Composite armour Front (Slope angle) Sides
Hull 130 mm RHA + 200 mm NERA
Turret 160 mm RHA + 400 mm NERA + 110 mm CHA 80 mm RHA + 230 mm NERA

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB80 / 39 km/h
RB and SB72 / 35 km/h
Number of gears10 forward
6 back
Weight62.5 t
Engine power
AB2 862 hp
RB and SB1 500 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB45.8 hp/t
RB and SB24.0 hp/t

The Challenger 2E has improved mobility when compared to all other Challenger 2 variants. This is due to its superior MTU engine, which replaces the comparatively underpowered Perkins CV12-6A used on all other Challenger 2 tanks.

The MTU engine is about 20% more powerful than the Perkins CV12-6A. The improved mobility of the Challenger 2E makes it comparable to most other top-tier MBTs, such as the Leopard 2A6 or M1A2 SEP.

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 80 39 62.5 2,325 2,862 37.2 45.79
Realistic 72 35 1,327 1,500 21.23 24

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB4 446 → 7 020 Sl icon.png
RB4 309 → 6 803 Sl icon.png
SB5 453 → 8 610 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications298 100 Rp icon.png
485 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost3 200 Ge icon.png
Crew training310 000 Sl icon.png
Experts1 100 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 300 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 350 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
160 / 200 / 210 % Sl icon.png
256 / 256 / 256 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
26 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
26 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
3 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
4 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement uk.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png
Mods engine smoke screen system.png
ESS
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
26 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
120mm_britain_Smoke_ammo_pack
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
120mm_britain_L26_APDSFS_ammo_pack
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mods thermal sight.png
NVD
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png
Mods tank laser rangefinder.png
Laser rangefinder
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
26 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
120mm_britain_L27_APDSFS_ammo_pack
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
26 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
26 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Laser rangefinder
Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder
Night vision device
Improves visibility by enhancing natural light or active illumination.
Thermal imager
Allows to see thermal radiation in the infrared range day and night

Main armament

Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Ammunition50 rounds
First-order4 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
6.5 → 5.0 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 20°
Main article: L30A1 (120 mm)

The Challenger 2E mounts the same cannon as all other Challenger 2 tanks in War Thunder. It performs adequately, although some other nations have more capable cannons on their top-tier MBTs. Unlike most MBT cannons at this battle rating, it is rifled. This is to accommodate the HESH ammunition that is highly regarded in British tank doctrine.

The L30A1 is incredibly accurate, although this isn't a unique characteristic for highly rated tanks. The range of ammunition it fires is likewise, good, but nothing special. This is especially damning considering the comparatively limited ammunition selection versus other nations' tanks; the Challenger 2E doesn't have access to HEATFS, HE-VT, or ATGM ammunition.

Where the Challenger 2E really shines, however, is its immense rate of fire. It has a fast-firing cannon for a top-tier tank. With an untrained crew, it has a reload time of 6.5 seconds, however this drops down to an astonishing 5 seconds with an aced crew, lending it a fire rate of 12 rounds per minute.

120 mm L30A1 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 50 -10°/+20° ±180° Two-plane 29.5 40.8 49.6 54.8 58.4 6.50 5.75 5.30 5.00
Realistic 18.4 21.7 26.4 29.1 31.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Shot L23A1 APFSDS 396 394 387 376 367 357
Shell L31A7 HESH 152 152 152 152 152 152
L26 APFSDS 493 491 487 481 474 468
L27A1 APFSDS 564 562 557 551 545 538
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Shot L23A1 APFSDS 1,535 3.89 - - - 78° 80° 81°
Shell L31A7 HESH 670 17.34 0.1 4 6.53 73° 77° 80°
L26 APFSDS 1,650 4.3 - - - 78° 80° 81°
L27A1 APFSDS 1,650 4.3 - - - 78° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy
time (s)
Screen hold
time (s)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
L34 670 17.1 20 5 25 50

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
Ammo
type
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
9th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
50 Projectiles
Propellants
48 (+2)
45 (+5)
45 (+5)
39 (+11)
43 (+7)
31 (+19)
41 (+9)
22 (+28)
34 (+16)
14 (+36)
29 (+21)
(+45)
(+45)
(+49)
(+46)
 
(+49)
 
No

Machine guns

Ammunition1 000 rounds
Belt capacity200 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate575 shots/min
Vertical guidance-10° / 25°
Horizontal guidance-180° / 78°
Ammunition4 000 rounds
Belt capacity2 000 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate600 shots/min

The Challenger 2E has access to one 7.62 mm coaxial machine gun, and one 12.7 mm machine gun mounted on the roof. All other Challenger 2 tanks lack a high calibre machine gun, giving this tank increased lethality against enemy aircraft and light vehicles.

12.7 mm M2HB
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 1,000 (200) 576 -10°/+25° -180°/+78°
7.62 mm L94A1
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 4,000 (2,000) 600 - -

Usage in battles

The Challenger 2E should be used in a near-identical fashion to the other Challenger 2 tanks. That is to say:

  • Remain at long range
  • Lock down enemy advances
  • Stay hull-down
  • Do not rush in, play patiently
  • If advancing, stick with the team

Although, the Challenger 2E has substantially improved mobility, so it can be used more aggressively. Players are at liberty to decide how they control this tank far more than its other iterations. However, one must be aware of their positioning relative to the team. Stray too far ahead with that great engine power, and you risk over-extending and becoming isolated, only to be swarmed by enemy tanks.

The Challenger 2E has an advantage over most enemies at long range. While the tank can be used aggressively, this throws away the advantage. Even if it doesn't put you at substantially increased risk, you are not as capable as you could be.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Drives as fast as Vickers Mk.7 at 80 km/h on demand
  • Very survivable armour profile
  • Has a 12.7 mm machine gun

Cons:

  • Does not carry over any super powerful upgrades of the Black Night or 2F, its just a basic, but fast Challenger 2
  • Large and vulnerable weak spots are present that cannot be hidden
  • Minimal anti-air capabilities despite new machine gun
  • Retains same ammunition as old Challengers, armour is not powerful enough to compensate when fighting top tanks on high ground
  • Reload rate slows down significantly once ready rack is emptied

History

The Challenger 2E was a private venture by Vickers plc, aimed at the export market. The 2E was designed after the failure of the Challenger 2 to gain international sales, with only 38 being sold.

The Challenger 2E was marketed as being a high-end and capable tank that would outperform all competition, unlike the budget series of the Vickers family. The primary target for the 2E was the gulf nations, as well as several Mediterranean nations. Adjustments were made to the basic Challenger 2 to accommodate these potential markets, such as native integration of air filtration and air conditioning.

Additionally, space was freed up in the crew compartment to accommodate an internal toilet, one of the only tanks in history to do so.

Unfortunately for Vickers, the Challenger 2E was a failure, and did not attract any orders. This was one of many contributing factors that led Vickers plc to go under, eventually being folded into BAE Systems.

One reason for the failure of the Challenger 2E was the reluctance of the British government to sell the Challenger 2E to foreign countries, due to the immensely classified nature of its Chobham armour profile. Were relations to sour between Britain and the prospective buyer, or were the Challenger 2E to be captured by an enemy state, the exact armour profile of the Challenger 2 could be calculated - and perhaps even reverse engineered.

Additionally, the Challenger 2E performed rather poorly in the 1998 Greek tank trials, irreparably damaging its reputation.

By 2005, the Challenger 2E project was entirely abandoned by BAE systems.

Media

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Videos

See also

Related development
Analogues in other nations

External links


Britain medium tanks
Valentine  Valentine I · Valentine IX · Valentine XI
Cromwell  Cromwell I · Cromwell V · Cromwell V (RP-3)
Cromwell derivatives  Challenger · Avenger · Comet I · Comet I "Iron Duke IV" · Charioteer Mk VII
Centurion  Centurion Mk 1 · Centurion Mk.2 · Centurion Mk 3 · Centurion Mk.5 AVRE · Centurion Mk 10 · Centurion Action X · FV4202
Vickers MBT  Vickers Mk.1 · Vickers Mk.3 · Vickers Mk.7
Chieftain  Chieftain Mk 3 · Chieftain Mk 5 · Chieftain Mk 10
Challenger 1  Challenger Mk.2 · Challenger Mk.3 · Challenger DS
Challenger 2  Challenger 2 · Challenger 2 (2F) · Challenger 2 TES · Challenger 2 OES · Challenger 2E · Challenger 2 Black Night
Challenger 3  Challenger 3 TD
Australia  A.C.I · A.C.IV · Centurion Mk.5/1
South Africa  Olifant Mk.1A · Olifant Mk.2 · TTD
India  Vijayanta · Bhishma TWMP
Israel  ▄Sho't Kal Dalet
Jordan  Khalid
Sweden  ▄Strv 81 (RB 52)
USA  Grant I · Sherman II · Sherman Firefly · Sherman IC "Trzyniec"