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'''Pros''' | '''Pros''' | ||
− | * More | + | * More armoured than the [[Type 94|Type 94]] (can survive MG fire) |
− | * Good | + | * Good manoeuvrability and speed |
* Fast turret turning rate | * Fast turret turning rate | ||
* Tiny. Can easily conceal itself and wait for the perfect time to take out enemy aircraft | * Tiny. Can easily conceal itself and wait for the perfect time to take out enemy aircraft | ||
− | * 20mm | + | * 20mm autocannon is more than enough to take out planes at its BR and API-T belt can even take out light tanks and medium tanks from the side. |
* 17 magazines of 20 bullets each. | * 17 magazines of 20 bullets each. | ||
* Good default multi-purpose belt. | * Good default multi-purpose belt. | ||
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'''Cons''' | '''Cons''' | ||
− | * Same single-mounted 20 mm | + | * Same single-mounted 20 mm autocannon as with the [[Type 94|Type 94]] |
* Open crew top still vulnerable to air strikes and artillery | * Open crew top still vulnerable to air strikes and artillery | ||
* Only 3 crew members, two of which are in the turret | * Only 3 crew members, two of which are in the turret |
Revision as of 04:04, 18 January 2019
Contents
Description
The Ta-Se is a Rank I Japanese self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle
with a battle rating of 1.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced along with the entire Japanese Ground Forces tree in Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"
The Ta-Se is a fast turreted SPG armed with a 20 mm autocanon. It can serve both as an AA or, in urban/small maps, as a close-quarter flanking vehicle. With a fair 24 hp/ton ratio (fully upgraded), the Ta-Se has enough mobility to follow other light tanks. Its light weight makes breaking through obstacles a bit challenging, but, its canon can break most of them before making contact. With fairly narrow tracks, this vehicle is easily slowed down by rough terrain.
While not being the best rank 1 AA autocanon (this title belong to the German Flakpanzer 38(t) Gepard), this little gun is still very suitable to engage planes.
Load in your API-T belt, voilà !, you are now ready to hunt down tanks. As an antitank weapon, this canon really shines. With a slower rate of fire than its German counterpart, it is easier to shoot one bullet at a time with good accuracy. One can easily take out one ground target/magazine (provided you know where to shoot). Shoot the gunner first, the driver/engine to immobilise your prey and then finish off every other crew member by sniping them.
One big downside to being such a fast and versatile vehicle (both AA and AT) is that armor is light, very light, at an average of 12 mm. This means you won't survive any shot bigger than MG fire: play smart and always flank, strike fast and retreat at the littlest threat (arty, other enemy tank, strafing plane, etc.). Since two out of three crew members are located in the turret (with their head popping out of it), do not expect to survive any more than one shot.
General info
Survivability and armour
Armour type:
- Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour | Front | Sides | Rear | Roof |
---|---|---|---|---|
Hull | 10 mm (22-25°) Front plate 9 mm (24°) Driver's port 9 mm (72°) Front glacis 16 mm (2-58°) Lower glacis |
12 mm (0-31°) Top 12 mm Bottom |
10 mm (52°) Top 10 mm (12-52°) Bottom |
10 mm |
Turret | 12-16 mm (13-14°) Turret front 12 mm (0-1°) Gun mount |
12 mm (11-13°) | 12 mm (6-11°) | N/A |
Notes:
- Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick.
- Belly armour is 9 mm thick.
- Turret underside armour is 9 mm thick.
Mobility
Mobility characteristic | ||
---|---|---|
Weight (tons) | Add-on Armor weight (tons) |
Max speed (km/h) |
7.0 | N/A | 49 (AB) |
45 (RB/SB) | ||
Engine power (horsepower) | ||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded |
Arcade | 136 | 168 |
Realistic/Simulator | 115 | 130 |
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | ||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded |
Arcade | 19.43 | 24.00 |
Realistic/Simulator | 15.97 | 18.57 |
Armaments
20 mm Type 98 | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Capacity (Belt capacity) | Fire rate (shots/minute) |
Vertical guidance |
Horizontal guidance |
Stabilizer | |
400 (20) | 300 | -9°/+82° | ±180° | N/A | |
Turret rotation speed (°/s) | |||||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. |
Arcade | 20.8 | 28.8 | 35.0 | 57.3 | __.__ |
Realistic | 20.8 | 24.5 | 29.8 | 32.9 | 35.0 |
Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||
Stock | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. | ||
3.9 | 3.4 | 3.2 | __.__ |
Ammunition
Penetration statistics | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration in mm @ 90° | |||||
10m | 100m | 500m | 1000m | 1500m | 2000m | ||
Type 100 HE-T | HEFI-T | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
Type 100 AP-T | API-T | 46 | 45 | 33 | 23 | 15 | 11 |
Shell details | ||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity in m/s |
Projectile Mass in kg |
Fuse delay
in m: |
Fuse sensitivity
in mm: |
Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent): |
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: |
Ricochet: | ||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||
Type 100 HE-T | HEFI-T | 829 | 0.13 | 0.3 | 0.1 | 6 | +0° | 79° | 80° | 81° |
Type 100 AP-T | API-T | 829 | 0.16 | N/A | N/A | N/A | 47° | 60° | 65° |
Ammo racks
Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
---|---|---|
20 | 1 (+19) | no |
Usage in the battles
AA role:
Shooting at aircraft, you can make use of it's maneuverability to evade enemy bombs or bullets. This is not a spectacular AA since it's fire density is not so great, requiring every shot to be pinpoint on target to hit. Bring 5-6 full HE belts to take this role in case there is planes coming your way. Any good SPAA tactic works fine with the Ta-Se.
Light brawler:
Any aggressive player will greatly enjoy taking this little brute into a close quarter fight. Its fast speed and turret turning rate allow for intense action and multi-target engagement. At this BR, 45 mm of penetration is more than enough to incapacitate most enemy tanks. But beware of its limited ammo count and always engage your target with a fully loaded magazine. It is reccommended to spray the gunner first and then taking your time to snipe every other crew member. Whenever an artillery strike is coming your way, be it friendly or enemy, do not stand there for too long since a single shell can wreck this tank. One last warning: never engage heavy targets, instead: flee.
Pros and cons
Pros
- More armoured than the Type 94 (can survive MG fire)
- Good manoeuvrability and speed
- Fast turret turning rate
- Tiny. Can easily conceal itself and wait for the perfect time to take out enemy aircraft
- 20mm autocannon is more than enough to take out planes at its BR and API-T belt can even take out light tanks and medium tanks from the side.
- 17 magazines of 20 bullets each.
- Good default multi-purpose belt.
- Fast reload speed
Cons
- Same single-mounted 20 mm autocannon as with the Type 94
- Open crew top still vulnerable to air strikes and artillery
- Only 3 crew members, two of which are in the turret
- Loader's and commander's head are exposed from the turret.
- Low firing rate and dispersion, make every shot count.
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Japan anti-aircraft vehicles | |
---|---|
Ke-Ni Derivatives | Ta-Se · So-Ki |
Wheeled | Type 94 |
Tracked | SUB-I-II |
Radar SPAAG | Type 87 |
Missile SPAA | Type 93 · Type 81 (C) |
USA | ▅M16 MGMC · ▅M19A1 · ▅M42 |