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Like the earlier [[F8U-2]] (F-8C) the only armour on the F-8E is 25 mm of bulletproof glass on the front windscreen, Again like the F8U-2 most of the central fuselage and wing is filled with large fuel tanks which makes gunfire from on top / behind likely to cause fuel k=leaks and fires. Near enough the entire rear fuselage is taken up by the engine, making engine damage likely from rear attacks. Despite these drawbacks the F-8E is still more durable than some jets and can often make it back to base ok with light to moderate damage.
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Like the earlier [[F8U-2]] (F-8C), the only armour on the F-8E is 25 mm of bulletproof glass on the front windscreen. Most of the central fuselage and wing is filled with large fuel tanks which makes gunfire from above or behind likely to cause fuel leaks and fires. Near enough the entire rear fuselage is taken up by the engine, making engine damage likely from rear attacks. Despite these drawbacks, the F-8E is still more durable than some jets and can often make it back to base with light to moderate damage.
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}As with most high tier jets the first modification you want to pick up will be the flares / chaff in order to let you effectively counter enemy missiles. From there you want to progress though the missile upgrades as fast as possible, taking your pick of flight performance upgrades in order to unlock each tier (you could also use the ordnance upgrades to unlock each modification tier, but as the F-8E is primarily a fighter flight performance is usually the best pick). Once you have all missiles unlocked your focus will probably be on the remaining flight performance upgrades, although the cannons upgrades are certainly useful if you enjoy gun fighting.
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As with most high tier jets, the first modification you want to pick up will be the flares/chaff in order to let you effectively counter enemy missiles. From there you want to progress though the missile upgrades as fast as possible, taking your pick of flight performance upgrades in order to unlock each tier (you could also use the ordnance upgrades to unlock each modification tier, but as the F-8E is primarily a fighter flight performance is usually the best pick). Once you have all missiles unlocked your focus will probably be on the remaining flight performance upgrades, although the cannons upgrades are certainly useful if you enjoy gun fighting.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==

Revision as of 12:18, 13 March 2022

Introducing Wiki 3.0
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F-8E
Research:260 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:710 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

The F-8E Crusader is a rank VII American jet fighter with a battle rating of 10.3 (AB/SB) and 10.7 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Direct Hit".

The F-8E is a later model of the Crusader. Compared to the preceding F8U-2, it has largely the same flight performance but improved ordnance options. The infrared-guided AIM-9D Sidewinder returns as a good option for dogfights and sneak attacks, but it can now utilize the radar-guided AIM-9C, which may be useful during head-on engagements. The ground attack options are vastly superior because of the addition of wing pylons; while the F8U-2 was limited to cheek-mounted Zuni rockets and its internal FFAR rocket tray, the F-8E can carry a decent bombload and AGM-12 Bullpup air-to-ground missiles, making it more capable as a multirole fighter.

The F-8E can really be considered "The Last Gunfighter" in War Thunder, because the succeeding F-4J Phantom is a very different aircraft to cap off the US naval jet line: a heavy twin-engine fighter lacking an internal gun and relying on powerful long-range missiles.

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 10 668 m2 110 km/h
Turn time29 s
Max altitude16 310 m
EnginePratt & Whitney J57-P-20
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight15 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 10,668 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,094 2,087 16310 29.4 30.6 108.5 98.1 1,828
Upgraded 2,132 2,110 28.6 29.0 158.0 131.4

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,555 428 1,070 N/A 583 ~10 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 1,000 < 590 < 500 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Pratt & Whitney J57-P-20 1 8,953 kg 376 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 15m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 52m fuel
1,592 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 10,200 kg 10,550 kg 11,348 kg 12,545 kg 13,109 kg 15,468 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 15m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 52m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,562 kgf 8,520 kgf 0.84 0.81 0.75 0.68 0.65 0.55
Optimal 4,804 kgf
(1,000 km/h)
9,543 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
0.94 0.91 0.84 0.76 0.73 0.62

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff
Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear428 km/h

Like the earlier F8U-2 (F-8C), the only armour on the F-8E is 25 mm of bulletproof glass on the front windscreen. Most of the central fuselage and wing is filled with large fuel tanks which makes gunfire from above or behind likely to cause fuel leaks and fires. Near enough the entire rear fuselage is taken up by the engine, making engine damage likely from rear attacks. Despite these drawbacks, the F-8E is still more durable than some jets and can often make it back to base with light to moderate damage.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 848 → 4 286 Sl icon.png
RB9 021 → 13 576 Sl icon.png
SB9 274 → 13 957 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications228 000 Rp icon.png
355 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training200 000 Sl icon.png
Experts710 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 080 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 340 / 600 % Sl icon.png
232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
MK 77
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
FFAR Mighty Mouse
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods heli false thermal targets.png
Flares/Chaff
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk81
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods ammo.png
mk_12_mod3_belt_pack
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket large.png
LAU-35A
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9B
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mk_12_mod3_new_gun
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket large.png
LAU-10/A
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9C
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods agm missile.png
AGM-12B Bullpup
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9D
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png

As with most high tier jets, the first modification you want to pick up will be the flares/chaff in order to let you effectively counter enemy missiles. From there you want to progress though the missile upgrades as fast as possible, taking your pick of flight performance upgrades in order to unlock each tier (you could also use the ordnance upgrades to unlock each modification tier, but as the F-8E is primarily a fighter flight performance is usually the best pick). Once you have all missiles unlocked your focus will probably be on the remaining flight performance upgrades, although the cannons upgrades are certainly useful if you enjoy gun fighting.

Armaments

Offensive armament

The F-8E is armed with:

  • A choice between two presets:
    • 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 cannons, nose-mounted (144 rpg = 576 total)
    • 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 cannons + 60 x countermeasures

Suspended armament

The F-8E can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles
  • 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 4 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
  • 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
  • 8 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
  • 4 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 4 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles
  • 4 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles
  • 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 12 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
  • 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
  • 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 4 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles
  • 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 28 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
  • 12 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
  • 12 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
  • 12 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs + 4 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
  • 12 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs + 4 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (3,000 lb total)
  • 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
  • 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
  • 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
  • 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9C Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (4,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Can carry four useful air-to-air missiles
    • AIM-9C air-to-air missiles can be launched in head-ons to surprise opponents
    • AIM-9D air-to-air missiles have above average range (around 3 km)
  • Landing flaps activate its variable-incidence wings, which provides a lot of lift
  • Very good sustained turn rate
  • Has a widely increased array of suspended ordnance (mostly consisting of air-to-ground loadouts) compared to the previous F8U-2

Cons:

  • Fragile wings which can easily rip at high speeds and in high-G turns
  • Very likely to set on fire because of the fuel tank placement
  • Lacks RWR, which is a major disadvantage as it frequently encounters opponents equipped with SARH missiles

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins
Videos

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


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Float planes  O3U-1 · OS2U-1 · OS2U-3
Attackers  AU-1
Bombers  SB2U-2 · SB2U-3
Jet aircraft 
Corsair II  A-7D · A-7E · A-7K
Crusader  F8U-2 · F-8E
Export  V-156-B1 · V-156-F · ▄Corsair F Mk II · F4U-7 · ▄F-8E(FN)
Captured  ▅F4U-1A

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F-84  F-84B-26 · F-84F · F-84G-21-RE
F-86  F-86A-5 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-35
F-89  F-89B · F-89D
F-100  F-100D
F-104  F-104A · F-104C
F-4  F-4C Phantom II · F-4E Phantom II · F-4J Phantom II · F-4S Phantom II
F-5  F-5A · F-5C · F-5E · F-20A
F-8  F8U-2 · F-8E
F-14  F-14A Early · ▄F-14A IRIAF · F-14B
F-15  F-15A · F-15C MSIP II · F-15E
F-16  F-16A · F-16A ADF · F-16C
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A-4  A-4B · A-4E Early
A-7  A-7D · A-7E · A-7K
AV-8  AV-8A · AV-8C · AV-8B Plus · AV-8B (NA)
A-10  A-10A · A-10A Late · A-10C
F-111  F-111A · F-111F
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