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== History ==
 
== History ==
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The B-17G was the final combat model of the [[B-17 (Family)|B-17 Flying Fortress]]. Produced from late 1943 until several months after the end of World War II, this variant included all successful improvements made to previous B-17 models. It carried a total of 13 machine guns for point-defense, including the new remote-controlled chin turret that greatly improved the B-17's ability to defend against head-on attacks. By the end of the B-17G's production run, a total of 8,680 units were manufactured - just over 2/3 of the total number of B-17s that had ever been built. The B-17G was instrumental in long-range daytime bombing over Nazi-occupied Europe, flying in massive formations often dozens or even hundreds of planes strong.
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By 1948, three years after World War II, the B-17 had effectively been decommissioned as a mainstay bomber in favor of new intercontinental bombers like the [[B-29/Tu-4 (Family)|B-29 Superfortress]]. Some units remained in service as reconnaissance craft or passenger transports for the new U.S. Air Force; while some other units made their way into private ownership, stripped of their combat armaments and converted to serve a variety of civilian uses.
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The Israeli Air Force (IAF), established in 1948 following the creation of the State of Israel, had no real interest nor need for a four-engine strategic bomber. Though it was embroiled in a war with all of its neighbours, all potential targets were no more than a few hundred miles from the airfields - much more suitable for short/medium-range tactical bombers. Nevertheless, the IAF was desperate to purchase pretty much any combat-worthy aircraft it could get its hands on. In the United States, one agent working clandestinely on this task for the Israelis was Al Schwimmer, a flight engineer for TWA, who managed to locate four B-17Gs in private hands. The IAF provided him with the funds to purchase the planes, three of which had already been stripped of their armaments.
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Three of the planes were flown from Miami to Puerto Rico, then to the Azores, and finally to Czechoslovakia. There, they were fitted with MG42 light machine-guns in place of the missing 12.7 mm M2 Brownings. Makeshift bomb sights and bomb racks were also installed. A fourth plane made several attempts to fly to the Azores through Canada, but the FBI had learned of the operation and alerted the Canadian authorities to prevent it from leaving.
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As soon as the opportunity arose, the three refitted planes were ordered to fly from Czechoslovakia to Israel, bombing several enemy targets on their way home - including the palace of King Faruk in Cairo. During the Israeli War of Independence, the three planes flew over 200 sorties. They were initially escorted by fighter planes, but it quickly became evident that the Egyptians were reluctant to intercept them; after which the bombers flew without any escorts for the remainder of the war. They bombed targets in Egypt, the West Bank, and Syria.
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The three IAF B-17Gs continued to serve until 1953, during which time the IAF managed to acquire original B-17G turrets and M2 Browning machine guns for them. In 1953 the planes were mothballed for a few years until being reactivated as airborne radio transceivers during the 1956 Sinai War. After the war they were immediately mothballed yet again, and were finally decommissioned in 1958. Following its experience with the B-17G, the IAF has never acquired any other four-engine bombers, instead completely switching over to ground-attack aircraft and later to multi-role fighters.
  
 
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Revision as of 18:58, 19 December 2021

This page is about the bomber B-17G (Israel). For other versions, see B-17 (Family).
B-17G
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Description

The B-17G Flying Fortress is a rank IV Israeli bomber with a battle rating of 5.0 (AB), 5.3 (RB), and 6.3 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Winged Lions".

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 7 680 m510 km/h
Turn time36 s
Max altitude11 156 m
Engine4 х Wright R-1820-97
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight31 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at _,___ m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock ___ ___ 11156 __._ __._ __._ __._ ___
Upgraded ___ ___ __._ __._ __._ __._

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
_ _ _ _ _
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 290 ___ ___ ___ ~__ ~__
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< ___ < ___ < ___ > ___

Survivability and armour

Crew10 people
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear290 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 617 → 3 561 Sl icon.png
RB7 554 → 10 280 Sl icon.png
SB15 696 → 21 362 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications52 800 Rp icon.png
90 200 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 700 Ge icon.png
Crew training57 000 Sl icon.png
Experts200 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces520 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
120 / 230 / 550 % Sl icon.png
172 / 172 / 172 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 600 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 600 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
6 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
6 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 700 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 700 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
5 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 800 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
5 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 800 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods bulletproof vest.png
Protective vest
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 600 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
5 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 800 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
bmg50_turret_belt_pack
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 600 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
250/50 G.P.
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 600 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods turret gun.png
bmg50_turret_new_gun
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 700 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
500/50 G.P.
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 700 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Suspended armament

List of setups (4)
Setup 116 x 100/50 kg G.P. bomb
Setup 28 x 250/50 kg G.P. bomb
Setup 312 x 250/50 kg G.P. bomb
Setup 46 x 500/50 G.P. bomb

The B-17G (Israel) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 16 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,600 kg total)
  • 8 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,000 kg total)
  • 12 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,000 kg total)
  • 6 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,000 kg total)

Defensive armament

Ammunition800 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Ammunition1000 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Ammunition1150 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Ammunition500 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Ammunition600 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Ammunition300 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Main article: M2 Browning (12.7 mm)

The B-17G (Israel) is defended by:

  • 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, chin turret (400 rpg = 800 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, front dorsal turret (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, ventral turret (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
  • 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, mid dorsal turret (500 rpg)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, tail turret (575 rpg = 1,150 total)
  • 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (600 rpg)
  • 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, 2 x nose turrets (300 rpg)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".

Pros:

Cons:

History

The B-17G was the final combat model of the B-17 Flying Fortress. Produced from late 1943 until several months after the end of World War II, this variant included all successful improvements made to previous B-17 models. It carried a total of 13 machine guns for point-defense, including the new remote-controlled chin turret that greatly improved the B-17's ability to defend against head-on attacks. By the end of the B-17G's production run, a total of 8,680 units were manufactured - just over 2/3 of the total number of B-17s that had ever been built. The B-17G was instrumental in long-range daytime bombing over Nazi-occupied Europe, flying in massive formations often dozens or even hundreds of planes strong.

By 1948, three years after World War II, the B-17 had effectively been decommissioned as a mainstay bomber in favor of new intercontinental bombers like the B-29 Superfortress. Some units remained in service as reconnaissance craft or passenger transports for the new U.S. Air Force; while some other units made their way into private ownership, stripped of their combat armaments and converted to serve a variety of civilian uses.

The Israeli Air Force (IAF), established in 1948 following the creation of the State of Israel, had no real interest nor need for a four-engine strategic bomber. Though it was embroiled in a war with all of its neighbours, all potential targets were no more than a few hundred miles from the airfields - much more suitable for short/medium-range tactical bombers. Nevertheless, the IAF was desperate to purchase pretty much any combat-worthy aircraft it could get its hands on. In the United States, one agent working clandestinely on this task for the Israelis was Al Schwimmer, a flight engineer for TWA, who managed to locate four B-17Gs in private hands. The IAF provided him with the funds to purchase the planes, three of which had already been stripped of their armaments.

Three of the planes were flown from Miami to Puerto Rico, then to the Azores, and finally to Czechoslovakia. There, they were fitted with MG42 light machine-guns in place of the missing 12.7 mm M2 Brownings. Makeshift bomb sights and bomb racks were also installed. A fourth plane made several attempts to fly to the Azores through Canada, but the FBI had learned of the operation and alerted the Canadian authorities to prevent it from leaving.

As soon as the opportunity arose, the three refitted planes were ordered to fly from Czechoslovakia to Israel, bombing several enemy targets on their way home - including the palace of King Faruk in Cairo. During the Israeli War of Independence, the three planes flew over 200 sorties. They were initially escorted by fighter planes, but it quickly became evident that the Egyptians were reluctant to intercept them; after which the bombers flew without any escorts for the remainder of the war. They bombed targets in Egypt, the West Bank, and Syria.

The three IAF B-17Gs continued to serve until 1953, during which time the IAF managed to acquire original B-17G turrets and M2 Browning machine guns for them. In 1953 the planes were mothballed for a few years until being reactivated as airborne radio transceivers during the 1956 Sinai War. After the war they were immediately mothballed yet again, and were finally decommissioned in 1958. Following its experience with the B-17G, the IAF has never acquired any other four-engine bombers, instead completely switching over to ground-attack aircraft and later to multi-role fighters.

Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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