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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 610 m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
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! RB
 
! RB
 
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ???
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|1,019||988|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||33.7||34.3||17.4||15.9||500
 
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 610 m)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! RB
 
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ???
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
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<!-- Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems. -->
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* 9.5 mm steel - in front of cockpit
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* 8.5 mm steel - behind pilot
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* 60 mm steel - armoured windscreen
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 4 x AN/M3 20 mm cannon (190 RPG = 760 total)
 
* 4 x AN/M3 20 mm cannon (190 RPG = 760 total)
  
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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* Without load
 
* Without load
 
* 4 х 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
 
* 4 х 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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<!-- Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB). -->
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First of your objective when you purchase this plane is to research as fast as you can the 20 mm cannons modifications. The F9F-8 default cannons get jammed in a quick burst.
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This said don’t expect to defeat MiG-15 and MiG-17A very easily. The F9F-8 performs great defensing maneuvers and can keep up in turns with the MiGs (beware that doesn’t have the great acceleration that MiGs have).
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This is not an air superiority aircraft, its main purpose is to support ground vehicles and planes.
  
===Manual Engine Control===
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The best tactics if you are new to this plane is to fly it like a F9F-2 or F9F-5 so stay near some allies and give them support.
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* Do never roll to hard over 750 km\h (466 mph) or the wings will explode
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* Do never execute maneuvers over –2 G or the wings will explode
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===Modules===
 
===Modules===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Good bombload options
 
* Good bombload options
 
* Four 20 mm cannons can shred enemy aircraft and light ground targets
 
* Four 20 mm cannons can shred enemy aircraft and light ground targets
 
* Slightly better top speed than on the F9F Panther
 
* Slightly better top speed than on the F9F Panther
 
* Can equip with AIM-9 Sidewinder guided missiles.
 
* Can equip with AIM-9 Sidewinder guided missiles.
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* Good roll rate over 800 km/h (497 mph)
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* Faster than its predecessors
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Bad turn time overall; even the Hawker Hunter can turn tighter in some scenarios
 
* Bad turn time overall; even the Hawker Hunter can turn tighter in some scenarios
 
* Top speed is not great, but is not terrible either
 
* Top speed is not great, but is not terrible either
 
* Can't equip rockets
 
* Can't equip rockets
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* Cannot turn over -2G.
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* Rips very very easily in turns and rolls
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* Not good at retaining energy, have to be very strict in order to keep it
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* Poor acceleration
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* Guns tend to jam quickly without New 20mms upgrade
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
 
* ''other literature.'' -->
 
* ''other literature.'' -->
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/4239-development-f9f-8-cougar-a-perfect-predator-en/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> F9F-8 Cougar - A Perfect Predator]
 
* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/4239-development-f9f-8-cougar-a-perfect-predator-en/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> F9F-8 Cougar - A Perfect Predator]
  
 
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Revision as of 19:31, 7 April 2019

Introducing Wiki 3.0
F9F-8
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F9F-8
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This page is about the American naval jet fighter F9F-8. For other uses, see F9F (Family).

Description

GarageImage F9F-8.jpg


The F9F-8 Cougar is a rank V American naval jet fighter with a battle rating of 8.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.63 "Desert Hunters".

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 610 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1,019 988 12500 33.7 34.3 17.4 15.9 500
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 610 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 12500  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ??.? 500

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
1127 410 620 ~?? ~?
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 950 < 790 < 510 > ???
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
0 m 3120 kgf No WEP

Survivability and armour

  • 9.5 mm steel - in front of cockpit
  • 8.5 mm steel - behind pilot
  • 60 mm steel - armoured windscreen

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: AN/M3 (20 mm)

The F9F-8 is armed with:

  • 4 x AN/M3 20 mm cannon (190 RPG = 760 total)

Suspended armament

The F9F-8 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 4 х 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 х 1000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 4 х AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles

Usage in battles

First of your objective when you purchase this plane is to research as fast as you can the 20 mm cannons modifications. The F9F-8 default cannons get jammed in a quick burst.

This said don’t expect to defeat MiG-15 and MiG-17A very easily. The F9F-8 performs great defensing maneuvers and can keep up in turns with the MiGs (beware that doesn’t have the great acceleration that MiGs have).

This is not an air superiority aircraft, its main purpose is to support ground vehicles and planes.

The best tactics if you are new to this plane is to fly it like a F9F-2 or F9F-5 so stay near some allies and give them support.

  • Do never roll to hard over 750 km\h (466 mph) or the wings will explode
  • Do never execute maneuvers over –2 G or the wings will explode


Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Compressor
II New Boosters Airframe Offensive 20 mm FLBC mk.1
III Wings Repair Engine New 20 mm Cannons
IV G-Suit Cover AIM-9B

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good bombload options
  • Four 20 mm cannons can shred enemy aircraft and light ground targets
  • Slightly better top speed than on the F9F Panther
  • Can equip with AIM-9 Sidewinder guided missiles.
  • Good roll rate over 800 km/h (497 mph)
  • Faster than its predecessors

Cons:

  • Bad turn time overall; even the Hawker Hunter can turn tighter in some scenarios
  • Top speed is not great, but is not terrible either
  • Can't equip rockets
  • Cannot turn over -2G.
  • Rips very very easily in turns and rolls
  • Not good at retaining energy, have to be very strict in order to keep it
  • Poor acceleration
  • Guns tend to jam quickly without New 20mms upgrade

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === Encyclopedia Info ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


USA jet aircraft
  Fighters
F9F  F9F-2 · F9F-5 · F9F-8
F-80  F-80A-5 · F-80C-10
F-84  F-84B-26 · F-84F · F-84G-21-RE
F-86  F-86A-5 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-35
F-89  F-89B · F-89D
F-100  F-100D
F-104  F-104A · F-104C
F-4  F-4C Phantom II · F-4E Phantom II · F-4J Phantom II · F-4S Phantom II
F-5  F-5A · F-5C · F-5E · F-20A
F-8  F8U-2 · F-8E
F-14  F-14A Early · ▄F-14A IRIAF · F-14B
F-15  F-15A · F-15C MSIP II · F-15E
F-16  F-16A · F-16A ADF · F-16C
Other  P-59A · F2H-2 · F3D-1 · F3H-2 · F4D-1 · F11F-1
  Strike Aircraft
FJ-4  FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232
A-4  A-4B · A-4E Early
A-7  A-7D · A-7E · A-7K
AV-8  AV-8A · AV-8C · AV-8B Plus · AV-8B (NA)
A-10  A-10A · A-10A Late · A-10C
F-111  F-111A · F-111F
Other  A-6E TRAM · F-105D · F-117
  Bombers
B-57  B-57A · B-57B