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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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| + | * The CL3143 APFSDS round is a tier 1 modification | ||
| + | * Decent forward mobility, even better than previous Ariete due to mobility upgrade | ||
| + | * The commander has access to thermal sights, and both gunner and commander thermals are Gen 2 (higher resolution) | ||
| + | * Outstanding gun handling characteristics | ||
| + | * Quick and responsive reverse | ||
| + | * Fairly decent and reactive mobility at medium to high speeds | ||
| + | * Quick neutral steering | ||
| + | * DM53, combined with great thermals and a laser rangefinder make for an exceptionally deadly sniper | ||
| + | * Unlike other NATO MBTs, there is no ammo rack in the turret bustle: a penetration in the turret rarely destroys the tank in one shot | ||
| + | |||
* | * | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Hull armour almost non-existent | ||
| + | * Placement of crew members and first stage ammo rack make hits to the hull fatal | ||
| + | * The DM53 APFSDS round is a tier 4 modification | ||
| + | * Does not have access to PSO or War kit armour package | ||
| + | * The War kit armour package only increases chemical protection, with missiles and 125 mm HEATFS still able to penetrate | ||
| + | * Transmission makes low speed manoeuvring sluggish | ||
| + | * Russian tanks, protected by explosive reactive armour, can at times directly withstand DM53. | ||
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* | * | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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| − | '' | + | '''Historical background''' |
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| + | The story of the C1 Ariete began during the late stages of the cold war, with a program born out of the need of the Italian army to modernize the fleet of tanks they had during that time period, which were at the time the Leopard and M60 MBT's. Those tanks would be considered obsolete, considering the fact that many countries around the world who adopted such designs had either put them out of service or replaced them for something more modern. To make the new Italian MBT, Italy put Iveco and OTO Melara in charge. Iveco dealt with the hull, transmission, and engine, while OTO Melara took care of the turret, cannon, and the installation of optical sights. After many changes, and a couple of wooden mock-ups, the C1 Ariete (P), would first be shown to the public, at a presentation inside of La Spezia in 1987. Development kept on continuing towards the year of 1990, which allowed both Iveco and OTO Melara to refine the C1 Ariete's design. Deliveries were scheduled to first take place in 1993, however due to some setbacks (likely funding) it wouldn't be until 1995 that the first C1 Ariete production deliveries actually took place. At first an order of 300 tanks would be made, but due to the Cold War coming to an end, it was reduced to only 200 units, which would all finally be delivered on 7th August 2002. The tank would feature a set of improvements from previous designs, for example the first C1 Ariete production models had access to the TURMS 3rd generation LTFCS made by Officine Galileo, which gave the capability to the Ariete to fire on the move, both during the day and at night. However later down the line, the last 50 Arietes would receive an upgrade of their sights, which resulted in many improvements, such as allowing the C1 Ariete commanders to have access to thermal imaging. In terms of armaments, the C1 Ariete (P) and C1 Ariete Production had access to a 120 mm smoothbore gun, made by OTO Melara, with similarities to the German made L44. The cannon would be suited to fire the majority of NATO standard munitions. Another improvement included better protection compared to the previous vehicles, it would be one of the more vital aspects of the Ariete. The tank would be deliviered up until the early 2000's where the Ariete would begin to be the only official tank in service, while the Leopards and M60's would be fully phased out and put in storage. Since then however the Ariete has had quite the bumpy ride when it came down to upgrading the machine, the Italian army was not against upgrading it however there was a common issue that would plauge the development, costs. The first proposed upgrade for the C1 Ariete would be what is known as the <nowiki>''</nowiki>C2 Ariete<nowiki>''</nowiki>. After the tank had finished to be deliviered, many nations at the time already had better vehicles in service, for example Germany would already have the Leopard 2a5. The C2 Ariete would feature a lot of improvements, which included new updated armor, an autoloader, new engine and also new updated FCS. However this never ended up happening and as such the C2 Ariete would remain only a proposal on paper. Fast forward a couple years and you'll see another potential upgrade for the C1 Ariete, the C1 Ariete Hitfact mk2, this was likely not even considered by the Italian army but it would still feature a set of advancements that technically speaking would make it still a better machine than the production vehicles, such as the new cannon and optics. | ||
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| + | '''AMV upgrade''' | ||
| + | |||
| + | Now here we are with what is likely going to be the final upgrade to the C1 Ariete, the C1 Ariete AMV, standing for "Ammodernamento di Mezza Vita" (English: "Mid Life Update"). This upgrade was conceptualised many years ago but its only in recent times that we've actually seen progress with such a program. The AMV program will attempt to extend the life of the C1 Ariete up until 2030/2035, where by then it is presumed that a new design will take over. The AMV program will feature 3 prototypes at first, the AMV PT1, which will feature improvements to the hull, the PT2 which will feature improvements to the hull and turret, and finally the PT3 which will incorporate improvements to both the turret and hull whilst also likely being used to test hard-kill APS. The improvements in the Ariete AMV PT1 are as follows; increase in power from 1250 to 1500 horsepower, sadly this was not obtained with the installation of a new engine, but instead with the application of an upgrade kit on the current engines that the C1 Ariete utilize, which were completely disassembled and rebuilt with the constitution of numerous new elements, most of which derive from the V8 of the B2 Centauro II. One of the other ways its better protected is thanks to the installation of the Anti-IED/Mine kit. The crankcase is also the same, but the displacement has been increased from 26 to 30 liters by changing cylinders, pistons and crankshaft, increasing the stroke of the cylinders. In order to better receive and manage the greater power offered by the improved engine, called V12AMV for now, changes would also be made on the automatic gearbox produced under license from the German ZF, this provided the necessary calculations for the changes necessary to receive the greatest torque and its distribution. Among that, the PT1 will feature improvements to the breaking system, the adoption of a new track known as the DST 570 P0, the current Arietes use the DST 840 E0. TheDST 570 P0 is 20% wider than the previous tracks, it allows the tank to have a smaller footprint and makes it much easier to overcome soft soils. Suspensions and shock absorbers have not been replaced, but only overhauled. Tests have been done at the <nowiki>''</nowiki>Centro Polifunzionale di Sperimentazione Mobile<nowiki>''</nowiki> (CEPOLISPE) of the PT1. The PT1 was also given the production WAR+PSO add-on armour kit, which all AMV prototypes have also recieved. In the future the once testing of all AMV prototypes has been concluded, they will all be brought to C2 Ariete standard. | ||
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Revision as of 16:38, 9 March 2023
Contents
Description
The Ariete AMV PT1 is a rank VIII Italian medium tank with a battle rating of 12.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Sky Guardians".
General info
Survivability and armour
Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.
Armour type:
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | ___ mm | ___ mm Top ___ mm Bottom |
___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Turret | ___ - ___ mm Turret front ___ mm Gun mantlet |
___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Cupola | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm |
Notes:
Mobility
Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 73 | 52 | 54 | _,___ | 2,862 | __.__ | 53 |
| Realistic | 66 | 47 | _,___ | 1,500 | __.__ | 27.78 | |
Modifications and economy
| Mobility | Protection | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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Armaments
Main armament
Main article: OTO Breda 120/44 (120 mm)
| 120 mm OTO Breda 120/44 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 42 | -9°/+20° | ±180° | Two-plane | 38.1 | 52.7 | 64.0 | 70.8 | 75.3 | 7.80 | 6.90 | 6.36 | 6.00 |
| Realistic | 23.8 | 28.0 | 34.0 | 37.6 | 40.0 | ||||||||
Ammunition
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| DM12A1 | HEATFS | 480 | 480 | 480 | 480 | 480 | 480 |
| CL3143 | APFSDS | 589 | 586 | 577 | 565 | 553 | 541 |
| DM53 | APFSDS | 623 | 620 | 610 | 598 | 586 | 573 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| DM12A1 | HEATFS | 1,140 | 13.5 | 0.05 | 0.1 | 2.15 | 65° | 72° | 77° | |||
| CL3143 | APFSDS | 1,705 | 5.6 | - | - | - | 78° | 80° | 81° | |||
| DM53 | APFSDS | 1,670 | 5 | - | - | - | 78° | 80° | 81° | |||
Ammo racks
| Full
ammo |
1st
rack empty |
2nd
rack empty |
Visual
discrepancy |
|---|---|---|---|
| 42 | 16 (+26) | 1 (+41) | No |
Machine guns
Main article: Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)
| 7.62 mm Beretta MG42/59 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
| Coaxial | 4,600 (200) | 1,200 | N/A | N/A |
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
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Pros:
- The CL3143 APFSDS round is a tier 1 modification
- Decent forward mobility, even better than previous Ariete due to mobility upgrade
- The commander has access to thermal sights, and both gunner and commander thermals are Gen 2 (higher resolution)
- Outstanding gun handling characteristics
- Quick and responsive reverse
- Fairly decent and reactive mobility at medium to high speeds
- Quick neutral steering
- DM53, combined with great thermals and a laser rangefinder make for an exceptionally deadly sniper
- Unlike other NATO MBTs, there is no ammo rack in the turret bustle: a penetration in the turret rarely destroys the tank in one shot
Cons:
- Hull armour almost non-existent
- Placement of crew members and first stage ammo rack make hits to the hull fatal
- The DM53 APFSDS round is a tier 4 modification
- Does not have access to PSO or War kit armour package
- The War kit armour package only increases chemical protection, with missiles and 125 mm HEATFS still able to penetrate
- Transmission makes low speed manoeuvring sluggish
- Russian tanks, protected by explosive reactive armour, can at times directly withstand DM53.
History
Historical background
The story of the C1 Ariete began during the late stages of the cold war, with a program born out of the need of the Italian army to modernize the fleet of tanks they had during that time period, which were at the time the Leopard and M60 MBT's. Those tanks would be considered obsolete, considering the fact that many countries around the world who adopted such designs had either put them out of service or replaced them for something more modern. To make the new Italian MBT, Italy put Iveco and OTO Melara in charge. Iveco dealt with the hull, transmission, and engine, while OTO Melara took care of the turret, cannon, and the installation of optical sights. After many changes, and a couple of wooden mock-ups, the C1 Ariete (P), would first be shown to the public, at a presentation inside of La Spezia in 1987. Development kept on continuing towards the year of 1990, which allowed both Iveco and OTO Melara to refine the C1 Ariete's design. Deliveries were scheduled to first take place in 1993, however due to some setbacks (likely funding) it wouldn't be until 1995 that the first C1 Ariete production deliveries actually took place. At first an order of 300 tanks would be made, but due to the Cold War coming to an end, it was reduced to only 200 units, which would all finally be delivered on 7th August 2002. The tank would feature a set of improvements from previous designs, for example the first C1 Ariete production models had access to the TURMS 3rd generation LTFCS made by Officine Galileo, which gave the capability to the Ariete to fire on the move, both during the day and at night. However later down the line, the last 50 Arietes would receive an upgrade of their sights, which resulted in many improvements, such as allowing the C1 Ariete commanders to have access to thermal imaging. In terms of armaments, the C1 Ariete (P) and C1 Ariete Production had access to a 120 mm smoothbore gun, made by OTO Melara, with similarities to the German made L44. The cannon would be suited to fire the majority of NATO standard munitions. Another improvement included better protection compared to the previous vehicles, it would be one of the more vital aspects of the Ariete. The tank would be deliviered up until the early 2000's where the Ariete would begin to be the only official tank in service, while the Leopards and M60's would be fully phased out and put in storage. Since then however the Ariete has had quite the bumpy ride when it came down to upgrading the machine, the Italian army was not against upgrading it however there was a common issue that would plauge the development, costs. The first proposed upgrade for the C1 Ariete would be what is known as the ''C2 Ariete''. After the tank had finished to be deliviered, many nations at the time already had better vehicles in service, for example Germany would already have the Leopard 2a5. The C2 Ariete would feature a lot of improvements, which included new updated armor, an autoloader, new engine and also new updated FCS. However this never ended up happening and as such the C2 Ariete would remain only a proposal on paper. Fast forward a couple years and you'll see another potential upgrade for the C1 Ariete, the C1 Ariete Hitfact mk2, this was likely not even considered by the Italian army but it would still feature a set of advancements that technically speaking would make it still a better machine than the production vehicles, such as the new cannon and optics.
AMV upgrade
Now here we are with what is likely going to be the final upgrade to the C1 Ariete, the C1 Ariete AMV, standing for "Ammodernamento di Mezza Vita" (English: "Mid Life Update"). This upgrade was conceptualised many years ago but its only in recent times that we've actually seen progress with such a program. The AMV program will attempt to extend the life of the C1 Ariete up until 2030/2035, where by then it is presumed that a new design will take over. The AMV program will feature 3 prototypes at first, the AMV PT1, which will feature improvements to the hull, the PT2 which will feature improvements to the hull and turret, and finally the PT3 which will incorporate improvements to both the turret and hull whilst also likely being used to test hard-kill APS. The improvements in the Ariete AMV PT1 are as follows; increase in power from 1250 to 1500 horsepower, sadly this was not obtained with the installation of a new engine, but instead with the application of an upgrade kit on the current engines that the C1 Ariete utilize, which were completely disassembled and rebuilt with the constitution of numerous new elements, most of which derive from the V8 of the B2 Centauro II. One of the other ways its better protected is thanks to the installation of the Anti-IED/Mine kit. The crankcase is also the same, but the displacement has been increased from 26 to 30 liters by changing cylinders, pistons and crankshaft, increasing the stroke of the cylinders. In order to better receive and manage the greater power offered by the improved engine, called V12AMV for now, changes would also be made on the automatic gearbox produced under license from the German ZF, this provided the necessary calculations for the changes necessary to receive the greatest torque and its distribution. Among that, the PT1 will feature improvements to the breaking system, the adoption of a new track known as the DST 570 P0, the current Arietes use the DST 840 E0. TheDST 570 P0 is 20% wider than the previous tracks, it allows the tank to have a smaller footprint and makes it much easier to overcome soft soils. Suspensions and shock absorbers have not been replaced, but only overhauled. Tests have been done at the ''Centro Polifunzionale di Sperimentazione Mobile'' (CEPOLISPE) of the PT1. The PT1 was also given the production WAR+PSO add-on armour kit, which all AMV prototypes have also recieved. In the future the once testing of all AMV prototypes has been concluded, they will all be brought to C2 Ariete standard.
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- http://avioblog.it/sono-iniziati-nel-sito-delle-i-di-montelibretti-rm-i-test-del-primo-prototipo-dellm-b-t-ariete-amv/
- https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546276-c1-ariete-amv-pt1/
| Italy medium tanks | |
|---|---|
| Italy | |
| M13/40 | M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III) |
| M14/41 | M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40) |
| M15/42 | M15/42 |
| M16/43 | Celere Sahariano |
| P26/40 | P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello" |
| OF-40 | OF-40 · OF-40 Mk.2A · OF-40 (MTCA) |
| Ariete | Ariete (P) · Ariete · Ariete PSO · Ariete AMV |
| Germany | ▄Pz.III N · ▄Pz.IV G · ▄Leopard 1A5 |
| Allied powers | ▄Sherman I Composito · Sherman Ic · ▄Sherman Vc · ▄Sherman V · M26 "D.C.Ariete" · M26A1 · M47 (105/55) · M60A1 "D.C.Ariete" |
| Hungary | |
| Turán | Turan I · Turan II · Turan III |
| Germany | ◔Leopard 2A4 · Leopard 2A7HU |
| USSR | ◔T-72M1 |
