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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''Republic''' '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. Like its contemporaries in the [[Su-7 (Family)|Su-7 family]], the F-105 is a strike aircraft designed for ordnance delivery at high speeds at low altitude, and its design reflects this, with powerful acceleration, excellent control authority at high speeds, good roll rate, and plentiful choices in bomb options, as well as a full range of ballistic computer programming, including CCIP for Rockets, Bombs and Cannons, plus a CCRP function that uses its surprisingly capable AN/ASG-19 radar. While it lacks a true "lock" function, the gun has a radar-ranging gunsight as well as a Search and IFF function that allows it to at least see targets in front and above it to a relatively high degree of efficiency at ranges of up to 37 kilometers. This allows it to see enemies to some extent, and plan ahead to avoid them. The F-105 was designed with nuclear strike in mind, and it performs best roaring through valleys and over hills at low altitude, reaching speeds of almost mach 1.2 when clean, and mach 1.05 with a full load of sixteen 750-pound M117 bombs. Famous for its use during Operation Rolling Thunder in Vietnam as the United States Air Force's main strike aircraft, the F-105, like the [[P-47 (Family)|P-47]] and [[F-84 (Family)|F-84]] that preceded it, has a reputation for being an aircraft capable of taking heavy punishment. However, it had several fatal flaws, including the lack of any standoff air-to-ground ordnance, the positioning of the fuel tanks directly above control cables and the at-times temperamental engine, the low-altitude, low-speed passes that it was forced to fly, and the doctrines of the time.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].
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This fighter has chaff in pods, but does not have flares. It is vulnerable to the IR Air-to-Air Missiles ('''AAMs''') that are prevalent at the BR range that it fights at, as well as the radar-guided anti-aircraft guns and the IR or Beam-riding Surface-to-Air Missiles ('''SAMs''') it faces at the BR. This is offset by the aforementioned roll rate and control authority, meaning that it can easily outroll or outmaneuver any rear-aspect AAM in-game except the [[Matra R550 Magic 1|Matra R.550 Magic]], which can only be outmaneuvered with range and assuming that the Magic's booster has shut off. Since it was designed to perform toss-bombing at high speeds on the deck, it also has the capability to pull surprisingly high Gs and turn/loop tighter than expected for an attack aircraft, managing turns of 12-13Gs with empty bomb racks and 4 sidewinders, or 13-14G clean with 12 minutes of fuel left in the tank at around ~1100km/h, and still manages 10-11G sustained turns above and below those speeds. Seeing as these speeds, fuel loads and payloads are fairly standard conditions when turning away from a base to head home for more ordnance, or while tussling with MiGs over the battlefield, the F-105 makes a capable dogfighter in its own right. Not many enemy pilots expect the Thud to be capable of popping a 12G sustained turn immediately after destroying a base, and even fewer expect it from an attacker glued onto their tail!     
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 10,668 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 10,668 m)
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| 2,206 || 2,167 || 27.5 || 28.0 || 202.8 || 175.0
 
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'''F-105D "Thunderchief"''', a.k.a. '''"Thud"''' is an US supersonic VI rank Strike Aircraft. The plane is notorious for its massive load carriage capacity, and is equipped with Pratt & Whitney J75-P-19W Engine. It has the WEP, which distinguishes it from another VI rank strike Aircraft in the US Aviation tree: A-4E. With its Swept Wings and powerful jet engine, It can quickly exceed Mach 1 during the flight and is the fastest plane in its BR, outperforming even notorious F-104C.
 
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While it has an incredible climb rate of 149.3 m/s in AB and 141.5 m/s in RB, a large part of its potential is mostly negated by the heavy ordinance that the plane is usually carrying. The same goes for the turn time, which is better than average, ranging from 28.5 to 29.5 seconds in AB and RB respectively, but it is noticeably increased even by the stock bomb ordinance by 3.2 seconds.
 
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The plane is relatively easy to control even at high speeds. However, it is recommended to have a very experienced crew on the plane, well trained in G-Tolerance. The plane also has large airbrakes which are, unlike other planes, placed in the tail segment behind the engine, serving as an exhaust pipe, when in a closed position and drastically decreasing speed when expanded. It has a notorious survivability issue related to flares or lack thereof, so speed and unusually heavy maneuvers are to be well used to effectively utilize this plane.
 
  
 
==== Details ====
 
==== Details ====
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 2,350 || 827 || 444 || ~11 || ~5
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 2,350 || 827 || 444 || ~12 || ~5
 
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
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| colspan="2" | _____ || _
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| colspan="2" | J75-P-19W || 1
 
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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! Weight || colspan="2" | Type
 
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
 
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
 
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| 2699 kg || colspan="2" | Jet
 
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
 
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
 
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! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
 
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
 
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! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
 
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
 
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
 
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| ''Stationary'' || 7060 kgf || 11060 kgf
 
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
 
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
 
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| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf<br>(_ km/h) || ___ kgf<br>(_ km/h)
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| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf<br>(_ km/h) || ~13309 kgf<br>(1109 km/h)
 
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{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 
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F-105D is more or less defended and can withstand considerable punishment due to its large size. It has three separate self-sealing fuel tanks placed on the top of part of the fuselage, also covering the engine. the pilots' head is defended from the back by a 12.7 mm thick steel plate on the chair, though the front glass is not bulletproof unlike those of F11f and A-4E. the steel plate shouldn't be relied on for the pilots' survival due to its minuscule size.
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|'''IMPORTANT: This aircraft cannot carry flares.''' The countermeasure pods are AN/ALE-38/41 Chaff dispensers, which, unlike modern countermeasures pods or USN countermeasure systems, use neither a common calibre nor dispenser system as flares. The F-105 was never equipped with the AN/ALE-40 combined Chaff/Flare suite used on the [[F-4E|F-4E]], nor the AN/ALE-29 chaff/flare dispenser used on the [[A-4 (Family)|A-4 Skyhawks]] and [[A-7 Corsair II (Family)|A-7 Corsairs]].
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The main sphere, where the "Thuds" defensive capabilities are compromised is definitely the countermeasures part. It has Chaff, which enables it to effectively distract the SARH missiles, but doesn't have any flares at all. This will prove an especially concerning matter when fighting against all-aspect fire-and-forget missiles such as R60 and R60M. The plane has to solely rely on its maneuvrability to deflect them.
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* 12.7mm armour plate behind the pilot.
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Since the aircraft is so big, and has a considerable amount of interior space, gunfire will often pass through the empty innards of the aircraft. Single hits from 20mm or 23mm cannons such as the [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23L]], [[Hispano Mk.V (20 mm)|Hispano Mk.V]] and [[Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 0 (20 mm)|Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 0]] will likely cause no damage other than slight damage to the wings or fuselage. Longer bursts with more hits will cause more serious damage that is likely to require repair at the airfield as soon as possible.  Often, cannon bursts from the rear that "kill" the plane will destroy the engine and disable the tail control, forcing the pilot to bail out, but the wings, fuselage and tail assembly will all stay attached to the plane until the aircraft slams into the ground. Theoretically, it is possible to control the aircraft entirely with flap input and throttle control without the elevator, but this requires almost ideal conditions that almost never occur. The F-105, however, lends itself better to this than most aircraft, thanks to flaps that are large, tough, and durable, with rip speeds in excess of 750km/h.
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The F-105's tail control and elevators are particularly vulnerable to enemy fire, and even single hits that wouldn't even damage the fuselage or wings will likely cripple or seriously impair your tailplane. This is compounded by the fact that the F-105D has control cables for the tail in both the top and the bottom of the aircraft, and therefore is extremely vulnerable to enemy fire. Enemy missiles are almost guaranteed to destroy the tail control, wing control, or ignite the massive fuel tanks in the fuselage. F-105 pilots must take utmost care to dodge missiles or otherwise avoid confrontations where enemy missiles come into play, such as prolonged tail-chases in a target-rich environment.  
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
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{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|M118 (3,000 lb)}}
 
{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|M118 (3,000 lb)}}
 
{{main|AGM-12B Bullpup|AGM-12C Bullpup|AIM-9B Sidewinder|AIM-9E Sidewinder|FFAR Mighty Mouse}}
 
{{main|AGM-12B Bullpup|AGM-12C Bullpup|AIM-9B Sidewinder|AIM-9E Sidewinder|FFAR Mighty Mouse}}
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|This aircraft has many different payloads. For convenience, the aircraft's ordnance has been split into sections.
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
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* Without load
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* Without load (clean, no pylons)
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==== '''Air-to-Air Missiles:''' ====
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* 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
 
* 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
 
* 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
 
* 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
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==== '''Air-To-Ground Missiles:''' ====
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* 4 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles
 
* 4 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles
 
* 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures
 
* 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures
 
* 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles
 
* 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles
 
* 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures
 
* 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures
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* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles (10,500 lb total)
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* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles (6,000 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures (4,500 lb total)
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* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles (9,000 lb total)
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* 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles (5,000 lb total)
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* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures (3,000 lb total)
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==== '''Rockets:''' ====
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* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
 
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
 
* 38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 32 x countermeasures
 
* 38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 32 x countermeasures
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==== '''Bombs:''' ====
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* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (7,000 lb total)
 
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (7,000 lb total)
 
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (7,000 lb total)
 
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (7,000 lb total)
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* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
 
 
* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (10,500 lb total)
 
* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (10,500 lb total)
 
* 16 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (12,000 lb total)
 
* 16 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (12,000 lb total)
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* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
 
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* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
 
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* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles (10,500 lb total)
 
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* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles (6,000 lb total)
 
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures (4,500 lb total)
 
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
 
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
 
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
 
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
 
 
* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (8,500 lb total)
 
* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (8,500 lb total)
 
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (10,000 lb total)
 
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (10,000 lb total)
 
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs (12,000 lb total)
 
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs (12,000 lb total)
 
* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (10,500 lb total)
 
* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (10,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (8,500 lb total)
 
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (8,500 lb total)
 
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
 
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
 
 
* 11 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (11,000 lb total)
 
* 11 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (11,000 lb total)
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* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles (9,000 lb total)
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* 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs (11,000 lb total)
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* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (9,000 lb total)
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* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (6,000 lb total)
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* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (6,000 lb total)
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* 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs (9,000 lb total)
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* 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (9,000 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
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* 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles (5,000 lb total)
 
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* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures (3,000 lb total)
 
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
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* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
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* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
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* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (8,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (8,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
 
* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
 
* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
 
* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
 
* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
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* 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs (11,000 lb total)
 
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* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (9,000 lb total)
 
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
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* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (6,000 lb total)
 
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* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (6,000 lb total)
 
 
* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
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* 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs (9,000 lb total)
 
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* 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (9,000 lb total)
 
 
* 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
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=== Summary & Recommendations ===
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The F-105 carries a range of bombs, but the payloads an F-105 pilot will often use are:
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* 16 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (12,000 lb total) This payload is best for bombing bases. It takes seven M117 bombs to destroy a base at 9.7, and with 16 bombs, dropping in 5 pairs of 2 and 6 individual drops, an F-105 can easily pickle off four pairs of bombs (8 total) before using the remaining ones to destroy another base, lighting the afterburner, and heading for home.
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* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total) This payload is one of the best for bombing bases and then switching into an Air to Air role. The AIM-9E missiles are capable against aircraft that are slow, and useful for causing faster aircraft to maneuver to avoid missiles, forcing them to lose speed and giving you a chance to close the gap.
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total) One of the single most effective payloads, this may be used as a substitute for the above payload if a pilot dislikes having to pickle off eight bombs individually, as now, with a single push of a button, two M118s come sliding off the rails. These two bombs combined are more than enough for a base, but are also effective in their own right as Capture-point clearing bombs, or for destroying aircraft staying on the airfield near the end of a match. Campers beware!
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* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total) Two heavy-duty bullpups and four sidewinders make for a powerful punch against both ground and air targets. The M117s are there merely as additional ordnance, and may be jettisoned where necessary for a cleaner aircraft, or used against enemy targets.
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[[File:F-105 in hangar.png|thumb|524x524px|Loaded for bear- an F-105 in the hangar, loaded with fourteen M117 demolition bombs, and four AIM-9Es on the outboard pylons. Note the size when compared to the ~1.8m-tall mechanics.]]
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The LDGP Mark 82 500lbs bombs provided stock, and the AGM-12B/sidewinder combinations serve no point once spaded. The Mark 82 can quickly be replaced by the extremely effective M117, which bomb-for-bomb provides the most effective bombing option, since it carries the most TNT for its weight. In addition to this, the Thunderchief carries as many M117s as it does Mark 82s, and also has far more available ordnance options that pair M117s together with other weapons, such as bullpups. The AGM-12B and Sidewinder/Chaff pod combinations allow for a maximum of two AGM-12Bs, a full rack of bombs on the centreline, and four AIM-9B/Es. Once the AGM-12C has been unlocked, carrying these combinations is useless, since the AGM-12C is superior in every metric, and given the limit on how many bullpups can be carried with AIM-9s, it's more useful to carry the larger missile rather than the smaller one.
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Something to consider is that more experienced players may find Mark 83 effectively redundant, as the M117s that precede them in the modifications menu carry nearly 210 kilograms of TNT equivalent, and the F-105 can carry more of them than Mark 83s. While at first, the Mk 83's additional 66 kilograms of TNT equivalent (for a total of 276kg per thousand-pound bomb) seem like an improvement, the M117 has nearly identical fragment dispersion/vehicle kill radii, as well as only 7mm less armour penetration. Coupled with the aircraft's ballistic computer for precision-bombing, experienced pilots shouldn't need the extra explosive mass to secure a kill, and since on a single hardpoint, the F-105 carries more M117s than Mark 83s (4-6 as opposed to 3 for the Mark 83), even novice pilots may find it easier to use the M117, since they have more M117s to drop. Pilots will also find it easier to acquire the M117 than the Mark 83 on this aircraft, as M117s are available as a Tier I modification, while Mark 83s are in Tier II, and the Thunderchief has far more Tier II modifications that should take a higher priority over the Mark 83, such as New Boosters or AIM-9Bs.
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Chaff is not advisable for the F-105D. At this battle rating, the F-105 faces mostly IR missiles, and given its flight performance, pilots must rely on maneuvering alone to defeat the [[AIM-9B|AIM-9Bs]], [[AIM-9E|AIM-9Es]], [[R-3S|R-3Ss]], [[AIM-9G|AIM-9Gs]] that are typical to planes around the 8.7-9.7 BR range, as well as the occasional [[R-60|R-60s]], [[AIM-9J|AIM-9Js]]/[[Rb24|Rb 24Js]], and rare [[AIM-7C Sparrow|AIM-7C,]] [[AIM-7D]] and [[AIM-7E]] sparrows that it can face froThe Mighty Mouse FFARs that it recieves are effective, but slightly underpowered compared to the Zunis, S-8s, S-24s, S-25s and 13,5cm m/70 [[A-4E Early|other]] [[Su-7BKL|similar]] [[AJ37|aircraft]] in and around its battle rating recieve. However, at the moment, the LAU-3s cannot be used with AIM-9Es, bombs, or any other payloads outside of either on their own or with chaff. This makes bringing FFARs a sub-par option compared to other ordnance options already available for the F-105D Thunderchief.m time to time. All of these missiles can be defeated with appropriate maneuvering and avoidance of enemy aircraft, making chaff pods entirely redundant, and at the moment, just something that takes up more space on a hard point that could be used by a bomb, missile, or rocket pod. However, in Ground RB, chaff may be useful in temporarily spoofing early missile and gun AAA. However, no AAA at that BR is entirely radar-based, and most radar-based SPAAGs use their radar to determine only a target solution rather than guide any sort of weapon. For instance, the most common anti-aircraft missile systems in Ground RB- the [[Roland 1]], [[Type 93]], [[Ozelot]], [[2S6]] and [[ADATS]]- all use either IR guidance or a form of Semi-Active beam-riding guidance that completely ignores chaff.
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Four AGM-12Bs is the maximum amount of guided ordnance that the F-105D can carry, if a pilot requires a lot of guided missiles to take out tanks in Ground RB. However, due to the ballistic computer, it is often better to take bombs instead, since you can drop from higher up and on different flight profiles where enemy tanks and SPAAs do not expect air attack.
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The Mighty Mouse FFARs that it recieves are effective, but slightly underpowered compared to the Zunis, S-8s, S-24s, S-25s and 13,5cm m/70 [[A-4E Early|other]] [[Su-7BKL|similar]] [[AJ37|aircraft]] in and around its battle rating recieve. However, at the moment, the LAU-3s cannot be used with AIM-9Es, bombs, or any other payloads outside of either on their own or with chaff. This makes bringing FFARs a sub-par option compared to other ordnance options already available for the F-105D Thunderchief.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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F-105D is a strike aircraft, with a large variety of ground attack ordnance. The very first Bomb modification of M117 allows the player to wipe out two bases in a single flight in air RB. Ultimately, the plane can carry 3 M118 3000 lb bombs with a TNT explosive mass of ~3200 kg. Alternatively, the plane can be equipped with guided AGM Bullpups. Lau-3/A also allows equipping "Mighty Mouse" unguided missiles, but these aren't the greatest of possible options Thus, depending on the objective, the plane offers the player a wide range of choices to attack ground targets. Remember that speed is the main advantage and perk of the "Thud". With It, alongside a powerful engine and highly effective airbrakes, the plane can effectively utilize hit and run tactics. This is particularly well suited for Air RB, as due to it being a Striker, F-105D can be spawned in the air, unlike the fighter planes, essentially guaranteeing that a base or two can be taken care of at least. Also note, that the plane is fully equipped with all available ballistic computers, similarly to "Harriers".
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Even though the plane was never designed for air-to-air fights, it can perform well as a fighter. Its wide-ranged radar allows the ready detection of the enemies from the distance. The plane is equipped with a 20mm M61A1 cannon, with impressive 1000 rounds, allowing the pilot to make a mistake or two with the aim, without the risk of fast depletion of ammo. This is once again notably relevant in air RB, as depletion of ammo forces the plane to return to base for rearmament. Though the fact that the cannon is placed on the left corner of the plane should be taken into consideration. Additionally, the plane can be equipped with Aim-9B Sidewinder AAM from a get-go, and later modification unlocks the Aim-9E variant as well. Though to say that these are exceptionally good weapons would be an overstatement. However, the high speed of the "Thud" ensures that the plane can get sufficiently close to the enemy to utilize them.
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Always keep in mind the main security issue with the plane: The lack of flares. While it is equipped with chaff, which makes it well-defended from SARH AAMs, flares are usually far more vital, as far more planes can carry IR missiles. Note, that in case of an uptier (which will happen more often than not), you may be teamed against MiG-21s, MiG-23s, MiG-27s, and other planes that are using all-aspect R-60 and R-60M missiles. Thus, when you spot one of such adversaries always be ready to perform extreme maneuvers if approaching on being approached by them head-on to dodge the potential incoming missiles.
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The F-105, like the Su-7, is extremely survivable. The size of the aircraft means that the aircraft can shrug off damage to its airframe and wings easily and keep flying, and it is easy to glide back to base when out of fuel or damaged. The Thud has a chance to put out fires in its spinal fuel tanks, but due to its position above the engine, if the rear fuel tank gets set on fire, the engine will likely burn down with it. However, the F-105 is good at gliding home and back to base even when the engine is down, or after sustaining heavy damage. The pilot lacks protection from the front and sides, and the aircraft lacks any sort of protection for fuel tanks, engine, control cables or control surfaces, unlike its well-armoured stablemate, the A-7. The aircraft can lose a wingtip and a tail fin, but still make it home to base and glide in for a landing. The gears are extremely durable and lend themselves well to rough landing, and the high ground clearance allows the aircraft a better chance of avoiding a tailstrike in a high-speed landing.
  
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Overall, F-105D "Thunderchief" is a versatile aircraft that can perform various duties, but the sphere where it shines the most is ground attacks and CAS and Despite certain security issues, "Thud" will prove to be a loyal friend to its pilot.
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However, the size of the aircraft is a double-edged sword, as enemy missiles are almost guaranteed to go off when in proximity to the aircraft, and dodging high-G missiles can become a hassle as while rolling the aircraft and jinking are the most effective methods of taking missiles off your tail, they also increase the surface area that is presented to a possible proxy fuse. Smaller, more maneuverable missiles such as [[R-60|R-60s]] and [[SRAAM|SRAAMs]] have an extremely slim chance to detonate even after you appear to have "dodged" it, since the proximity fuze is still live after the missile loses its lock.
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All of these, however, pale in comparison to its speed. Few aircraft possess its aptitude for speed- only higher-'''BR''' aircraft it sees in full uptiers, such as the [[MiG-21SMT]] and the [[MiG-21MF (Germany)|MiG-21MF]] (BR '''10.3'''),  [[F-104 (Family)|F-104 Starfighters]] (BR '''10.0-10.7''') and [[F-4F Early|F-4F(e)s]] (BR '''10.3''') have the ability to keep up with it. Speed is a form of protection in and of itself, since the F-105 can simply jettison its ordnance and run away from whatever it doesn't want to face. However, loading heavy payloads like the bombs required to destroy bases leech away at its speed, and thus speed is only really an option when running the aircraft with AIM-9Es only, or completely clean.
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=== '''Usage against Ground Targets''' ===
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While the F-105 can carry up to four air-to-ground guided missiles, it can only do this with four AGM-12Bs. This load is hardly optimal, particularly since with the ballistic computer, bombs might be far more effective anyhow, and you get AGM-12Cs anyway- but only two of them. Keep in mind, however, that with this payload, you cannot carry AIM-9Es for self-defense, nor chaff for spoofing radar. While still able to kill ground targets, this payload's effectiveness is sometimes questionable in the face of the other payloads this versatile aircraft is capable of carrying. When carrying AIM-9Es or chaff pods, the amount of air-to-ground missiles that the aircraft is able to carry drops to two. The aircraft can only carry two AGM-12s and AIM-9Es with bombs anyway, meaning that using combined loads of AGM-12Bs and missiles/chaff is entirely moot once AGM-12Cs are unlocked and available to the player. The F-105 lacks any fire-and-forget air-to-ground ordnance, as well as any kind of good stand-off ordnance to use against SPAAs. This means that aircraft is vulnerable to radar-guided gun AAA as well as enemy surface-to-air missiles, since novice pilots will have to fly low in order to use the bombs, the AGM-12s require constant attention to hit moving targets, and the aircraft lacks any sort of standoff ordnance to use against AAA while staying at an appreciable distance away.
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The F-105 is equipped with a full range of ballistic computer functionality, including a '''Constantly Computed Impact Point''' function for bombs and rockets that shows the pilot where a bomb will fall when dropped, and a '''Constantly Computed Release Point''' function that uses the powerful onboard radar system to paint a target on the ground, and it gives the pilot an alert when "release authority" is handed over at a point where if the bomb is dropped, the projectile will hit the target selected. The CCRP system is effective at any altitude, but requires the pilot to have good timing and knowledge of the system being used. The CCIP system is also useable from most altitudes, but is most effective in dives below 1000 metres above ground level, meaning that the pilot will have to fly low, exposing themselves to enemy fire as a result. While this is not usually a problem in Air RB, in Ground RB, where ground-based Short-Range Air Defense (SHORAD) is present, the aircraft is particularly vulnerable to radar-assisted Gun AAA, enemy IR/Beam-riding SAMs and even enemy machine-guns and main cannons.
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* Large and Assorted variation of ordinances fit for every possible Ground Operation.
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F-105 "Thunderchief" was one of the planes created by the "Republic Aviation Company" team headed by Georgian-American Aviation Pioneer Aleksandre Kartvelishvili, more commonly known as Alexander Kartveli. Planes designed by Kartveli include, among others, P-47 "Thunderbolt" and F-84 "Thunderstreak". The project that ultimately resulted in the creation of F-105 was one of the attempts to upgrade or replace the latter in the 1950s. Previous projects that attempted this weren't satisfactory and One of them included XF-84H, an infamous monstrosity, known by its nickname "Thunderscreech", with sound so loud and powerful, that it could be heard as far as 25 miles and made people near the plane physically ill.
 
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The Project of designing "Thunderchief" was launched in 1950. It was originally envisioned to be a single-seat nuclear striker, deploying the bomb at a low altitude and supersonic speed. The various ordinance could be attached to the fuselage and the wings, in addition to the internal compartment meant for the nuke. The frame was engineered to adequately respond to these requirements, incorporating, among others, swept wings, fuselage aimed to minimize the aerodynamic drag, and air intakes placed at the connection point of wings and the fuselage. It was also notorious for its sheer size, exceeding even quite large F-4 Phantoms, and remains the largest single-engine plane series ever built.
 
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== Media ==
 
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F-105D
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F-105D
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Description

The Republic F-105D Thunderchief is a rank VII American strike aircraft with a battle rating of 11.0 (AB), 10.3 (RB), and 10.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Winged Lions". Like its contemporaries in the Su-7 family, the F-105 is a strike aircraft designed for ordnance delivery at high speeds at low altitude, and its design reflects this, with powerful acceleration, excellent control authority at high speeds, good roll rate, and plentiful choices in bomb options, as well as a full range of ballistic computer programming, including CCIP for Rockets, Bombs and Cannons, plus a CCRP function that uses its surprisingly capable AN/ASG-19 radar. While it lacks a true "lock" function, the gun has a radar-ranging gunsight as well as a Search and IFF function that allows it to at least see targets in front and above it to a relatively high degree of efficiency at ranges of up to 37 kilometers. This allows it to see enemies to some extent, and plan ahead to avoid them. The F-105 was designed with nuclear strike in mind, and it performs best roaring through valleys and over hills at low altitude, reaching speeds of almost mach 1.2 when clean, and mach 1.05 with a full load of sixteen 750-pound M117 bombs. Famous for its use during Operation Rolling Thunder in Vietnam as the United States Air Force's main strike aircraft, the F-105, like the P-47 and F-84 that preceded it, has a reputation for being an aircraft capable of taking heavy punishment. However, it had several fatal flaws, including the lack of any standoff air-to-ground ordnance, the positioning of the fuel tanks directly above control cables and the at-times temperamental engine, the low-altitude, low-speed passes that it was forced to fly, and the doctrines of the time.

This fighter has chaff in pods, but does not have flares. It is vulnerable to the IR Air-to-Air Missiles (AAMs) that are prevalent at the BR range that it fights at, as well as the radar-guided anti-aircraft guns and the IR or Beam-riding Surface-to-Air Missiles (SAMs) it faces at the BR. This is offset by the aforementioned roll rate and control authority, meaning that it can easily outroll or outmaneuver any rear-aspect AAM in-game except the Matra R.550 Magic, which can only be outmaneuvered with range and assuming that the Magic's booster has shut off. Since it was designed to perform toss-bombing at high speeds on the deck, it also has the capability to pull surprisingly high Gs and turn/loop tighter than expected for an attack aircraft, managing turns of 12-13Gs with empty bomb racks and 4 sidewinders, or 13-14G clean with 12 minutes of fuel left in the tank at around ~1100km/h, and still manages 10-11G sustained turns above and below those speeds. Seeing as these speeds, fuel loads and payloads are fairly standard conditions when turning away from a base to head home for more ordnance, or while tussling with MiGs over the battlefield, the F-105 makes a capable dogfighter in its own right. Not many enemy pilots expect the Thud to be capable of popping a 12G sustained turn immediately after destroying a base, and even fewer expect it from an attacker glued onto their tail!

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 10 668 m2 167 km/h
Turn time28 s
Max altitude12 192 m
Engine2 х Pratt & Whitney J75-P-19W
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight23 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 10,668 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
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AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,129 2,102 12192 28.5 29.5 149.3 141.5 1,050
Upgraded 2,206 2,167 27.5 28.0 202.8 175.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
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Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 546 2,350 827 444 ~12 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 720 < 950 < 800 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
J75-P-19W 1 _,___ kg ___ kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight Type _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel
2699 kg Jet _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
Condition 100% WEP _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel MTOW
Stationary 7060 kgf 11060 kgf _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Optimal ___ kgf
(_ km/h) 		~13309 kgf
(1109 km/h) 		_.__ _.__ _.__ _.__

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff
Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear546 km/h
Msg-important.png IMPORTANT: This aircraft cannot carry flares. The countermeasure pods are AN/ALE-38/41 Chaff dispensers, which, unlike modern countermeasures pods or USN countermeasure systems, use neither a common calibre nor dispenser system as flares. The F-105 was never equipped with the AN/ALE-40 combined Chaff/Flare suite used on the F-4E, nor the AN/ALE-29 chaff/flare dispenser used on the A-4 Skyhawks and A-7 Corsairs.

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

  • 12.7mm armour plate behind the pilot.

Since the aircraft is so big, and has a considerable amount of interior space, gunfire will often pass through the empty innards of the aircraft. Single hits from 20mm or 23mm cannons such as the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23L, Hispano Mk.V and Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 0 will likely cause no damage other than slight damage to the wings or fuselage. Longer bursts with more hits will cause more serious damage that is likely to require repair at the airfield as soon as possible. Often, cannon bursts from the rear that "kill" the plane will destroy the engine and disable the tail control, forcing the pilot to bail out, but the wings, fuselage and tail assembly will all stay attached to the plane until the aircraft slams into the ground. Theoretically, it is possible to control the aircraft entirely with flap input and throttle control without the elevator, but this requires almost ideal conditions that almost never occur. The F-105, however, lends itself better to this than most aircraft, thanks to flaps that are large, tough, and durable, with rip speeds in excess of 750km/h.

The F-105's tail control and elevators are particularly vulnerable to enemy fire, and even single hits that wouldn't even damage the fuselage or wings will likely cripple or seriously impair your tailplane. This is compounded by the fact that the F-105D has control cables for the tail in both the top and the bottom of the aircraft, and therefore is extremely vulnerable to enemy fire. Enemy missiles are almost guaranteed to destroy the tail control, wing control, or ignite the massive fuel tanks in the fuselage. F-105 pilots must take utmost care to dodge missiles or otherwise avoid confrontations where enemy missiles come into play, such as prolonged tail-chases in a target-rich environment.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 307 → 4 808 Sl icon.png
RB8 777 → 12 761 Sl icon.png
SB9 810 → 14 263 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications227 000 Rp icon.png
357 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training200 000 Sl icon.png
Experts710 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 080 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
80 / 310 / 600 % Sl icon.png
232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Compressor
Research:
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Cost:
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330 Ge icon.png
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New boosters
Research:
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Cost:
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440 Ge icon.png
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Wings repair
Research:
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Cost:
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410 Ge icon.png
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Engine
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
650 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
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Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
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Airframe
Research:
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Cost:
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G-suit
Research:
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Cost:
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410 Ge icon.png
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Cover
Research:
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Cost:
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650 Ge icon.png
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M60_belt_pack
Research:
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Cost:
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330 Ge icon.png
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M117
Research:
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Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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Chaff
Research:
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Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
BLU-27/B
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
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AIM-9B
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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LAU-3/A
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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M60_new_gun
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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AIM-9E
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mods agm missile.png
AGM-12B Bullpup
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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Mk118
Research:
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Cost:
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650 Ge icon.png
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EFS
Research:
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Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
650 Ge icon.png
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AGM-12C Bullpup
Research:
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Cost:
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650 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: M61A1 (20 mm)

The F-105D is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, nose-mounted (1,028 rpg)

Suspended armament

Main articles: LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb), M117 cone 45 (750 lb), LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb), LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb), M118 (3,000 lb)
Main articles: AGM-12B Bullpup, AGM-12C Bullpup, AIM-9B Sidewinder, AIM-9E Sidewinder, FFAR Mighty Mouse
Msg-info.png This aircraft has many different payloads. For convenience, the aircraft's ordnance has been split into sections.

The F-105D can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load (clean, no pylons)

Air-to-Air Missiles:

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  • 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles

Air-To-Ground Missiles:

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  • 4 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures
  • 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles
  • 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures
  • 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles (10,500 lb total)
  • 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles (6,000 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures (4,500 lb total)
  • 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles (9,000 lb total)
  • 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles (5,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 32 x countermeasures (3,000 lb total)

Rockets:

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  • 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 32 x countermeasures

Bombs:

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  • 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (7,000 lb total)
  • 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (7,000 lb total)
  • 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (10,500 lb total)
  • 16 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (12,000 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (8,500 lb total)
  • 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (10,000 lb total)
  • 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs (12,000 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (10,500 lb total)
  • 11 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (11,000 lb total)
  • 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs (11,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (9,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (6,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (6,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs (9,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 32 x countermeasures (9,000 lb total)

Multirole:

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  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
  • 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
  • 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
  • 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (8,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (8,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
  • 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
  • 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
  • 3 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)

Summary & Recommendations

The F-105 carries a range of bombs, but the payloads an F-105 pilot will often use are:

  • 16 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (12,000 lb total) This payload is best for bombing bases. It takes seven M117 bombs to destroy a base at 9.7, and with 16 bombs, dropping in 5 pairs of 2 and 6 individual drops, an F-105 can easily pickle off four pairs of bombs (8 total) before using the remaining ones to destroy another base, lighting the afterburner, and heading for home.
  • 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total) This payload is one of the best for bombing bases and then switching into an Air to Air role. The AIM-9E missiles are capable against aircraft that are slow, and useful for causing faster aircraft to maneuver to avoid missiles, forcing them to lose speed and giving you a chance to close the gap.
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x 3,000 lb M118 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total) One of the single most effective payloads, this may be used as a substitute for the above payload if a pilot dislikes having to pickle off eight bombs individually, as now, with a single push of a button, two M118s come sliding off the rails. These two bombs combined are more than enough for a base, but are also effective in their own right as Capture-point clearing bombs, or for destroying aircraft staying on the airfield near the end of a match. Campers beware!
  • 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AGM-12C Bullpup missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total) Two heavy-duty bullpups and four sidewinders make for a powerful punch against both ground and air targets. The M117s are there merely as additional ordnance, and may be jettisoned where necessary for a cleaner aircraft, or used against enemy targets.
Loaded for bear- an F-105 in the hangar, loaded with fourteen M117 demolition bombs, and four AIM-9Es on the outboard pylons. Note the size when compared to the ~1.8m-tall mechanics.

The LDGP Mark 82 500lbs bombs provided stock, and the AGM-12B/sidewinder combinations serve no point once spaded. The Mark 82 can quickly be replaced by the extremely effective M117, which bomb-for-bomb provides the most effective bombing option, since it carries the most TNT for its weight. In addition to this, the Thunderchief carries as many M117s as it does Mark 82s, and also has far more available ordnance options that pair M117s together with other weapons, such as bullpups. The AGM-12B and Sidewinder/Chaff pod combinations allow for a maximum of two AGM-12Bs, a full rack of bombs on the centreline, and four AIM-9B/Es. Once the AGM-12C has been unlocked, carrying these combinations is useless, since the AGM-12C is superior in every metric, and given the limit on how many bullpups can be carried with AIM-9s, it's more useful to carry the larger missile rather than the smaller one.

Something to consider is that more experienced players may find Mark 83 effectively redundant, as the M117s that precede them in the modifications menu carry nearly 210 kilograms of TNT equivalent, and the F-105 can carry more of them than Mark 83s. While at first, the Mk 83's additional 66 kilograms of TNT equivalent (for a total of 276kg per thousand-pound bomb) seem like an improvement, the M117 has nearly identical fragment dispersion/vehicle kill radii, as well as only 7mm less armour penetration. Coupled with the aircraft's ballistic computer for precision-bombing, experienced pilots shouldn't need the extra explosive mass to secure a kill, and since on a single hardpoint, the F-105 carries more M117s than Mark 83s (4-6 as opposed to 3 for the Mark 83), even novice pilots may find it easier to use the M117, since they have more M117s to drop. Pilots will also find it easier to acquire the M117 than the Mark 83 on this aircraft, as M117s are available as a Tier I modification, while Mark 83s are in Tier II, and the Thunderchief has far more Tier II modifications that should take a higher priority over the Mark 83, such as New Boosters or AIM-9Bs.

Chaff is not advisable for the F-105D. At this battle rating, the F-105 faces mostly IR missiles, and given its flight performance, pilots must rely on maneuvering alone to defeat the AIM-9Bs, AIM-9Es, R-3Ss, AIM-9Gs that are typical to planes around the 8.7-9.7 BR range, as well as the occasional R-60s, AIM-9Js/Rb 24Js, and rare AIM-7C, AIM-7D and AIM-7E sparrows that it can face froThe Mighty Mouse FFARs that it recieves are effective, but slightly underpowered compared to the Zunis, S-8s, S-24s, S-25s and 13,5cm m/70 other similar aircraft in and around its battle rating recieve. However, at the moment, the LAU-3s cannot be used with AIM-9Es, bombs, or any other payloads outside of either on their own or with chaff. This makes bringing FFARs a sub-par option compared to other ordnance options already available for the F-105D Thunderchief.m time to time. All of these missiles can be defeated with appropriate maneuvering and avoidance of enemy aircraft, making chaff pods entirely redundant, and at the moment, just something that takes up more space on a hard point that could be used by a bomb, missile, or rocket pod. However, in Ground RB, chaff may be useful in temporarily spoofing early missile and gun AAA. However, no AAA at that BR is entirely radar-based, and most radar-based SPAAGs use their radar to determine only a target solution rather than guide any sort of weapon. For instance, the most common anti-aircraft missile systems in Ground RB- the Roland 1, Type 93, Ozelot, 2S6 and ADATS- all use either IR guidance or a form of Semi-Active beam-riding guidance that completely ignores chaff.

Four AGM-12Bs is the maximum amount of guided ordnance that the F-105D can carry, if a pilot requires a lot of guided missiles to take out tanks in Ground RB. However, due to the ballistic computer, it is often better to take bombs instead, since you can drop from higher up and on different flight profiles where enemy tanks and SPAAs do not expect air attack.

The Mighty Mouse FFARs that it recieves are effective, but slightly underpowered compared to the Zunis, S-8s, S-24s, S-25s and 13,5cm m/70 other similar aircraft in and around its battle rating recieve. However, at the moment, the LAU-3s cannot be used with AIM-9Es, bombs, or any other payloads outside of either on their own or with chaff. This makes bringing FFARs a sub-par option compared to other ordnance options already available for the F-105D Thunderchief.

Usage in battles

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Usage against Air Targets

On the Offensive

On the Defensive

The F-105, like the Su-7, is extremely survivable. The size of the aircraft means that the aircraft can shrug off damage to its airframe and wings easily and keep flying, and it is easy to glide back to base when out of fuel or damaged. The Thud has a chance to put out fires in its spinal fuel tanks, but due to its position above the engine, if the rear fuel tank gets set on fire, the engine will likely burn down with it. However, the F-105 is good at gliding home and back to base even when the engine is down, or after sustaining heavy damage. The pilot lacks protection from the front and sides, and the aircraft lacks any sort of protection for fuel tanks, engine, control cables or control surfaces, unlike its well-armoured stablemate, the A-7. The aircraft can lose a wingtip and a tail fin, but still make it home to base and glide in for a landing. The gears are extremely durable and lend themselves well to rough landing, and the high ground clearance allows the aircraft a better chance of avoiding a tailstrike in a high-speed landing.

However, the size of the aircraft is a double-edged sword, as enemy missiles are almost guaranteed to go off when in proximity to the aircraft, and dodging high-G missiles can become a hassle as while rolling the aircraft and jinking are the most effective methods of taking missiles off your tail, they also increase the surface area that is presented to a possible proxy fuse. Smaller, more maneuverable missiles such as R-60s and SRAAMs have an extremely slim chance to detonate even after you appear to have "dodged" it, since the proximity fuze is still live after the missile loses its lock.

All of these, however, pale in comparison to its speed. Few aircraft possess its aptitude for speed- only higher-BR aircraft it sees in full uptiers, such as the MiG-21SMT and the MiG-21MF (BR 10.3), F-104 Starfighters (BR 10.0-10.7) and F-4F(e)s (BR 10.3) have the ability to keep up with it. Speed is a form of protection in and of itself, since the F-105 can simply jettison its ordnance and run away from whatever it doesn't want to face. However, loading heavy payloads like the bombs required to destroy bases leech away at its speed, and thus speed is only really an option when running the aircraft with AIM-9Es only, or completely clean.

Usage against Ground Targets

While the F-105 can carry up to four air-to-ground guided missiles, it can only do this with four AGM-12Bs. This load is hardly optimal, particularly since with the ballistic computer, bombs might be far more effective anyhow, and you get AGM-12Cs anyway- but only two of them. Keep in mind, however, that with this payload, you cannot carry AIM-9Es for self-defense, nor chaff for spoofing radar. While still able to kill ground targets, this payload's effectiveness is sometimes questionable in the face of the other payloads this versatile aircraft is capable of carrying. When carrying AIM-9Es or chaff pods, the amount of air-to-ground missiles that the aircraft is able to carry drops to two. The aircraft can only carry two AGM-12s and AIM-9Es with bombs anyway, meaning that using combined loads of AGM-12Bs and missiles/chaff is entirely moot once AGM-12Cs are unlocked and available to the player. The F-105 lacks any fire-and-forget air-to-ground ordnance, as well as any kind of good stand-off ordnance to use against SPAAs. This means that aircraft is vulnerable to radar-guided gun AAA as well as enemy surface-to-air missiles, since novice pilots will have to fly low in order to use the bombs, the AGM-12s require constant attention to hit moving targets, and the aircraft lacks any sort of standoff ordnance to use against AAA while staying at an appreciable distance away.

The F-105 is equipped with a full range of ballistic computer functionality, including a Constantly Computed Impact Point function for bombs and rockets that shows the pilot where a bomb will fall when dropped, and a Constantly Computed Release Point function that uses the powerful onboard radar system to paint a target on the ground, and it gives the pilot an alert when "release authority" is handed over at a point where if the bomb is dropped, the projectile will hit the target selected. The CCRP system is effective at any altitude, but requires the pilot to have good timing and knowledge of the system being used. The CCIP system is also useable from most altitudes, but is most effective in dives below 1000 metres above ground level, meaning that the pilot will have to fly low, exposing themselves to enemy fire as a result. While this is not usually a problem in Air RB, in Ground RB, where ground-based Short-Range Air Defense (SHORAD) is present, the aircraft is particularly vulnerable to radar-assisted Gun AAA, enemy IR/Beam-riding SAMs and even enemy machine-guns and main cannons.

Despite this vulnerability, the aircraft is extremely tough and survivable.

Pros and cons

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Pros:

  • High speed and energy retention for Boom & Zoom tactics
  • Good dogfighter at high speeds with a surprising amount of pull
  • Good acceleration
  • Effective control authority at speeds in excess of ~700km/h
  • Excellent takeoff flaps with a high rip speed (~823km/h) that may be used during combat
  • High pull at speeds of ~1000km/h (12G-14G)
  • Excellent M61 Vulcan cannon with large ammo pool
  • Excellent range of payloads
  • Shrugs off damage to wings, airframe and fuselage
  • Four AIM-9Es for air to air work
  • Good search radar

Cons:

  • Lacks armour
  • Easily set ablaze from the side and rear
  • Acceleration is middling compared to other aircraft; take care not to lose too much speed
  • Bad low speed handling
  • Tail control easily disabled by missiles or gunfire
  • Large target while turning
  • No flares; vulnerable to IR missiles
  • Chaff pods supplant AIM-9Es and/or air-to-ground ordnance, and have a relatively low countermeasure count
  • Its own IR missiles are mediocre, and do not pull hard enough or have a high enough track rate for dogfights
  • Lacks advanced TV/Laser-guided missiles
  • Radar lacks ACM mode, changeable FOV or changeable range, and may only be used as a rangefinder
  • High minimum landing approach speed may be difficult for novice jet players
  • High payload results in sluggish performance with full loads of bombs
  • Extremely high fuel consumption on Afterburner; requires careful management of fuel supply on minimum or 20 minutes fuel load

History

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Media

Videos
The Shooting Range #283 - Metal Beasts section at 00:28 discusses the F-105D.

See also

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FJ-4  FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232
A-4  A-4B · A-4E Early
A-7  A-7D · A-7E · A-7K
AV-8  AV-8A · AV-8C · AV-8B Plus · AV-8B (NA)
A-10  A-10A · A-10A Late · A-10C
F-111  F-111A · F-111F
Other  A-6E TRAM · F-105D · F-117
  Bombers
B-57  B-57A · B-57B

USA strike aircraft
Douglas  A-20G-25 · A-26B-10 · A-26B-50 · A2D-1 · AD-2 · AD-4 · A-1H
North American  A-36 · PBJ-1H · PBJ-1J
Other  AM-1 · AU-1 · XA-38

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