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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} French fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]]. It costs 250 Golden Eagles. The plane is modelled after one used by French pilot Gabriel Pallier.
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'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} French fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]] and was part of the [[wt:en/news/5225-special-french-vehicles-as-christmas-presents-en|2017 "Christmas presents"]] giveaway. It is also the starting premium vehicle of french air tech tree
  
The Dewoitine D.510 is an open cockpit monoplane equipped with one Hispano-Suiza H.S.404 cannon and two MAC 1934 7.5 mm machine guns. The aircraft has no specific defects, but no notable advantages either. Its engine is extremely prone to catching fire (especially when hit by weapons of 12.7 mm caliber)
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The plane is modelled after one used by French pilot Gabriel Pallier. The Dewoitine D.510 is an open cockpit monoplane equipped with one Hispano-Suiza H.S.404 cannon and two MAC 1934 7.5 mm machine guns. The aircraft has no specific defects, but no notable advantages either. Its engine is extremely prone to catching fire (especially when hit by weapons of 12.7 mm calibre)
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
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! Stock
 
! Stock
| 383 || 374 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 13.2 || 14.2 || 15.7 || 15.7 || rowspan="2" | 150
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| 380 || 373 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 13.2 || 14.2 || 15.7 || 15.7 || rowspan="2" | 150
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || N/A || ~13 || ~8
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| 576 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || - || - || - || ~14 || ~8
 
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| < 320 || < 330 || < 360 || > 280
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
 
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! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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{{main|Hispano 404 (20 mm)|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
 
{{main|Hispano 404 (20 mm)|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
  
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
 
* 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, nose-mounted (60 rpg)
 
* 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, nose-mounted (60 rpg)
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The two machine guns are arranged with one mounted on the underside of each wing. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty.  The 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon is mounted in the nose and fires out of the propeller hub.
 
The two machine guns are arranged with one mounted on the underside of each wing. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty.  The 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon is mounted in the nose and fires out of the propeller hub.
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'''Belts'''
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'''For the machine guns:'''
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Default(T/B/B/B/I/AP): Not that bad, but not that great, it can be used as multirole if you don't have the modification. I you have the multirole one, use that instead
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Multirole(T/AP/AP/I/I): It's really good in ground RB where you don't know if you will fight against planes or ground vehicles.
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With indicator(I-T): It's your main weapon against planes, and it does the job well.
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Without indicator(AP/AP/I): It's okay against ground targets , but it's not a big problem because the cannon does most of the job anyways.
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'''For the cannon:'''
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Default(HEI/HEI/P/T): It's really good for a starting ammo but I recommend switching to something else if you can.
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Multirole(HEI/SAP-I/AP/T): It does it's job as a multirole ammunition really great, it is a go to choice in ground RB.
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Against ground targets(AP/AP/AP/HEI/I): It's great against ground targets, it pens most enemies that you ecounter in that rank with its 27mm pen from 100m , at an angle of 30.
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With indicator(AP/HEI/T): It's like a multirole but without SAP-I, does it's job in ground RB and against planes too.
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Without indicator(HEI/HEI/SAP-I/AP): It's brutal against bomber and other  lightly armed targets, I recommend using that belt.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The extremely limited 20 mm ammo supply should be guarded carefully and used only for heavier and larger targets where the destructive power of the HEF shells can make quick work of enemies. Most other fighters of the period will fall quickly enough to the 7.5 mm MAC rounds.
 
The extremely limited 20 mm ammo supply should be guarded carefully and used only for heavier and larger targets where the destructive power of the HEF shells can make quick work of enemies. Most other fighters of the period will fall quickly enough to the 7.5 mm MAC rounds.
  
Like most other low-tier fighters, the D.510 is exceptionally agile, able to turn well inside aircraft even a single BR higher. Combined with the powerful 20mm Hispano cannon, the D.510 can be a serious threat to aircraft well above its normal rank.
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Like most other low-tier fighters, the D.510 is exceptionally agile, able to turn well inside aircraft even a single BR higher. Combined with the powerful 20 mm Hispano cannon, the D.510 can be a serious threat to aircraft well above its normal rank.
  
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
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| Controllable || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable<br>1 gear || Not controllable
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Strong firepower of the 20mm cannon is quite devastating for fragile planes around 1.3
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* 20 mm cannon is devastating for fragile planes at low BR
* Nose-centered guns are easy to aim in simulator
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* Nose-centred guns are easy to aim in Simulator
 
* Pretty agile, can sometimes turnfight biplanes
 
* Pretty agile, can sometimes turnfight biplanes
 
* Considerably fast for a vehicle in its tier
 
* Considerably fast for a vehicle in its tier
* Great over-the-nose visibility allowing easy aiming in a simulator dogfight
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* Great over-the-nose visibility, allowing easy aiming in a Simulator dogfight
* Easy to control at low speeds meaning forgiving landing characteristics for realistic / simulator
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* Easy to control at low speeds, meaning forgiving landing characteristics for Realistic/Simulator
 
* Open cockpit allows player to hear outside sounds easily, which is beneficial in noticing nearby enemies
 
* Open cockpit allows player to hear outside sounds easily, which is beneficial in noticing nearby enemies
* Excellent for dog fighting
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* Excellent for dogfighting
 
* Fixed landing gear makes landings easier
 
* Fixed landing gear makes landings easier
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* Has WEP, unlike the D.501, which can last for almost forever with MEC
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Low ammo count of only 60 rounds is very unfriendly to beginners / bad aimers
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* Low cannon ammo count of only 60 rounds is very unfriendly to pilots with poor aim
 
* Weak armour. No rear protection at all for the pilot. Open cockpit is also vulnerable to pilot sniping
 
* Weak armour. No rear protection at all for the pilot. Open cockpit is also vulnerable to pilot sniping
* Pretty easy to get shot down
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* Thanks to the previous 2 points, not very beginner-friendly
* No flap controls limiting its turning potential
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* No flaps, limiting its turning potential
 
* Fixed landing gear creates more drag
 
* Fixed landing gear creates more drag
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
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* ''other literature.''
 
  
 
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Latest revision as of 22:21, 14 November 2023

Introducing Wiki 3.0
This page is about the French fighter Pallier's D.510. For the other version, see D.510C.
Pallier's D.510
d_510.png
GarageImage Pallier's D.510.jpg
360://https://old-wiki.warthunder.com/images/5/55/Cockpit_d_510.jpg
Pallier's D.510
AB RB SB
1.7 1.3 1.3
Purchase:250 Specs-Card-Eagle.png

Description

Pallier's D.510 is a premium rank I French fighter with a battle rating of 1.7 (AB) and 1.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France" and was part of the 2017 "Christmas presents" giveaway. It is also the starting premium vehicle of french air tech tree

The plane is modelled after one used by French pilot Gabriel Pallier. The Dewoitine D.510 is an open cockpit monoplane equipped with one Hispano-Suiza H.S.404 cannon and two MAC 1934 7.5 mm machine guns. The aircraft has no specific defects, but no notable advantages either. Its engine is extremely prone to catching fire (especially when hit by weapons of 12.7 mm calibre)

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 3 200 m394 km/h
Turn time13 s
Max altitude9 000 m
EngineHispano-Suiza 12Xbrs
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight2 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 3,200 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 380 373 9000 13.2 14.2 15.7 15.7 150
Upgraded 407 394 12.8 13.0 23.8 19.2

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
576 577 - - - ~14 ~8
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 320 < 330 < 360 > 280

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear577 km/h

Pallier's D.510 has a 3 mm steel plate in front of the pilot. The fuel tanks are not self-sealing. There is one located underneath the pilot's feet, and one in each inner wing.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB364 Sl icon.png
RB109 Sl icon.png
SB79 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications4 710 Rp icon.png
475 Sl icon.png
Crew training150 Sl icon.png
Experts1 000 Sl icon.png
Aces20 Ge icon.png
Research Aces145 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 20 / 20 / 60 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 75 / 75 / 75 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
660 Rp icon.png
Cost:
65 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS(a)
Research:
720 Rp icon.png
Cost:
75 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
7_5mm_belt_pack
Research:
600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mac39_new_gun
Research:
660 Rp icon.png
Cost:
65 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
hispano_belt_pack
Research:
750 Rp icon.png
Cost:
75 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
hispano_404_new_gun
Research:
720 Rp icon.png
Cost:
75 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition60 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min
Ammunition600 rounds
Fire rate1 350 shots/min

Pallier's D.510 is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, nose-mounted (60 rpg)
  • 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)

The two machine guns are arranged with one mounted on the underside of each wing. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty. The 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon is mounted in the nose and fires out of the propeller hub.

Belts

For the machine guns:

Default(T/B/B/B/I/AP): Not that bad, but not that great, it can be used as multirole if you don't have the modification. I you have the multirole one, use that instead

Multirole(T/AP/AP/I/I): It's really good in ground RB where you don't know if you will fight against planes or ground vehicles.

With indicator(I-T): It's your main weapon against planes, and it does the job well.

Without indicator(AP/AP/I): It's okay against ground targets , but it's not a big problem because the cannon does most of the job anyways.

For the cannon:

Default(HEI/HEI/P/T): It's really good for a starting ammo but I recommend switching to something else if you can.

Multirole(HEI/SAP-I/AP/T): It does it's job as a multirole ammunition really great, it is a go to choice in ground RB.

Against ground targets(AP/AP/AP/HEI/I): It's great against ground targets, it pens most enemies that you ecounter in that rank with its 27mm pen from 100m , at an angle of 30.

With indicator(AP/HEI/T): It's like a multirole but without SAP-I, does it's job in ground RB and against planes too.

Without indicator(HEI/HEI/SAP-I/AP): It's brutal against bomber and other lightly armed targets, I recommend using that belt.

Usage in battles

The extremely limited 20 mm ammo supply should be guarded carefully and used only for heavier and larger targets where the destructive power of the HEF shells can make quick work of enemies. Most other fighters of the period will fall quickly enough to the 7.5 mm MAC rounds.

Like most other low-tier fighters, the D.510 is exceptionally agile, able to turn well inside aircraft even a single BR higher. Combined with the powerful 20 mm Hispano cannon, the D.510 can be a serious threat to aircraft well above its normal rank.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Combined Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 20 mm cannon is devastating for fragile planes at low BR
  • Nose-centred guns are easy to aim in Simulator
  • Pretty agile, can sometimes turnfight biplanes
  • Considerably fast for a vehicle in its tier
  • Great over-the-nose visibility, allowing easy aiming in a Simulator dogfight
  • Easy to control at low speeds, meaning forgiving landing characteristics for Realistic/Simulator
  • Open cockpit allows player to hear outside sounds easily, which is beneficial in noticing nearby enemies
  • Excellent for dogfighting
  • Fixed landing gear makes landings easier
  • Has WEP, unlike the D.501, which can last for almost forever with MEC

Cons:

  • Low cannon ammo count of only 60 rounds is very unfriendly to pilots with poor aim
  • Weak armour. No rear protection at all for the pilot. Open cockpit is also vulnerable to pilot sniping
  • Thanks to the previous 2 points, not very beginner-friendly
  • No flaps, limiting its turning potential
  • Fixed landing gear creates more drag

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins
Images

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Dewoitine (SNCAM/SNCASE)
Fighters 
D.37  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373
D.500  D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510
D.520  D.520 · ▄D.520 · ▄D.521
Export  ␗D.510C

France fighters
Dewoitine  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520
Morane-Saulnier  M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410
Arsenal  V.G.33C-1
Bloch  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Caudron  C.R.714
Sud-Ouest  S.O.8000 Narval
American  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA
  ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B
Other countries  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900
Belgium  ▄Gladiator Mk I · ▄Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
Netherlands  ◘Sea Fury FB 51

France premium aircraft
Fighters  D.371 H.S.9 · Pallier's D.510 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · F-6C-10-NA
  M.B.152C1 · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900 · S.O.8000 Narval
Jet fighters  ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · Milan · Mirage F1C-200
Strike aircraft  ▄AD-4NA · F-84F IAF
Bombers  Late 298D · ▄PBY-5A Late
Jet bombers  Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN