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+ | | about = French light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}''' | ||
+ | | usage = other versions | ||
+ | | link = AMX-13 (Family) | ||
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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | The ''' | + | The '''AMX-13-US''' is the second subvariant of the [[AMX-13 (FL11)|AMX-13/75 FL-10]], which is the first variant of the [[AMX-13 (Family)|AMX-13 light tank family]]. In 1956, the French Army and the Direction des Etudes et Fabrications d'Armements were looking into cost-effective ways to modernize their fleet of aged M24 Chaffee light tanks. One approach was to combine the hull of the French [[AMX-13|AMX-13/75 FL-10]] light tank with the turret of the American [[M24|M24 Chaffee]]. While the official name of this subvariant of the AMX-13/75 FL-10 is AMX-US, it is also known by several unofficial names, including AMX-13 Chaffee, as it was known by troops, and AMX-13 Avec Tourelle Chaffee, which is often seen in some resources. There were only a few of these vehicles built. They first served in French military units tasked with policing colonies like Algeria. When they were no longer needed on the front lines, they were converted into driver-training vehicles. |
− | + | Introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]], the AMX-13-US is a light tank that performs similarly to the AMX-13/75 FL-11. It does, however, have a roof-mounted 12.7 mm M2HB Browning heavy machine gun, which will come in handy in some situations against enemy aircraft and lightly armoured vehicles. Use your superior mobility to ambush choke points and crossroads and, if necessary, capture the zones. Always scout opponents for your allies and avoid engaging multiple enemies at the same time. | |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret base, turret roof) | * Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret base, turret roof) | ||
* Cast homogeneous armour (turret, gun mantlet, cupola) | * Cast homogeneous armour (turret, gun mantlet, cupola) | ||
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− | This tank utilises an AMX-13 chassis with a 270 HP engine. At | + | This tank utilises an AMX-13 chassis with a 270 HP engine. At 19.4 hp/ton, the AMX-13-M24 has decent mobility, which will alllow it to get to best spots. While not one of the fastest light tanks in the game, the AMX-13 chassis, if driven correctly, will allow the player to survive long enough to see the end of battle. |
=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
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− | | rowspan="2" | | + | | rowspan="2" | 48 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Vertical|up to 24 km/h}} || 28.6 || 39.5 || 48.0 || 53.1 || 56.5 || rowspan="2" | 8.45 || rowspan="2" | 7.47 || rowspan="2" | 6.89 || rowspan="2" | 6.50 |
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− | <!-- '''Last updated: | + | <!-- '''Last updated: 2.19.0.85''' --> |
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− | | ''' | + | | '''48''' || 29 ''(+19)'' || 15 ''(+33)'' || 1 ''(+47)'' || No |
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− | Notes: | + | '''Notes''': |
* Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded. | * Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded. | ||
+ | * Packing 15 ''(+33)'' shells will keep ammo only on the hull's right side. | ||
=== Machine guns === | === Machine guns === | ||
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! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal | ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal | ||
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− | | Coaxial || | + | | Coaxial || 2,000 (250) || 500 || - || - |
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'''Enemies worth noting:''' | '''Enemies worth noting:''' | ||
− | [[M4A2]] / [[M4A4 (1st PTG)|A4]]: these Sherman tanks are widely used by over 3 nations that spread across both the Allied and the Axis side, so no matter which nation you play they can be quite tough to destroy in the hands of a skilled tanker. Given the rather weak penetration of your short | + | [[M4A2]]/[[M4A4 (1st PTG)|A4]]: these Sherman tanks are widely used by over 3 nations that spread across both the Allied and the Axis side, so no matter which nation you play they can be quite tough to destroy in the hands of a skilled tanker. Given the rather weak penetration of your short 75 mm gun, their hull can be almost impossible to penetrate when angled, hull down or 300 m away. For a M4A4, there are 2 apparent bulges on the upper front plate, a penetration through there is a guaranteed kill most of the times. But in case the opponent covers them up or when it's an M4A2, aim for the middle parts of the gun mantlet or the turret armour unprotected by the mantlet, you can at least make them defenseless. |
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | * Good mobility: high top speed, good turning and climbing ability | + | * Good mobility: high top speed, good turning and climbing ability |
− | * Equipped with smoke launchers (14 individual smoke grenades) | + | * Equipped with smoke launchers (14 individual smoke grenades) |
− | * Engine in the front protects the crew in head-on engagements | + | * Engine in the front protects the crew in head-on engagements |
− | * Uses the same gun as the M24 tanks: various shell types and good penetration | + | * Uses the same gun as the M24 tanks: various shell types and good penetration |
− | * Excellent gun depression allows for shooting from behind ridges | + | * Excellent gun depression allows for shooting from behind ridges |
− | * M61 APCBC shell with explosive filler can easily knock out enemy vehicles with a single shot | + | * M61 APCBC shell with explosive filler can easily knock out enemy vehicles with a single shot |
− | * Fast turret traverse allows it to track targets easily | + | * Fast turret traverse allows it to track targets easily |
− | * Pintle-mounted | + | * Pintle-mounted .50 cal MG allows for air defense and some anti-tank ability (e.g. Marder III, Sd.Kfz.234 series, Breda 501, etc.) |
* Scouting ability | * Scouting ability | ||
+ | * Gun stabilizer | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * Light armour overall with a prominent weak spot: the base of the | + | * Light armour overall with a prominent weak spot: the base of the turret |
− | * Unstable cannon pitch due to tall turret layout and bouncy hull | + | * Unstable cannon pitch due to tall turret layout and bouncy hull |
− | ** After firing, it is difficult to stay on target with the recoil | + | ** After firing, it is difficult to stay on target with the recoil |
− | ** After braking, Acquiring targets is slow as the hull rocks back and forth for a short while | + | ** After braking, Acquiring targets is slow as the hull rocks back and forth for a short while |
− | * Tall silhouette | + | * Tall silhouette |
− | * Poor reverse speed | + | * Poor reverse speed |
− | + | * Shells drop dramatically at long distances, making distant and moving targets hard to shoot at | |
− | * Shells drop dramatically at long distances, making distant and moving targets hard to shoot at | + | * Reload time is pretty slow for a light tank |
− | * Reload time is pretty slow for a light tank | + | * Low ammo count can be a problem in long games or RB/SB matches but not so low that ammo rack detonations are rare |
− | * Low ammo count can be a problem in long games or RB/SB matches but not so low that ammo rack detonations are rare | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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;Skins | ;Skins | ||
− | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/? | + | |
+ | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=fr_amx_13_chaffee Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
;Videos | ;Videos | ||
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;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis | ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis | ||
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* [[AMX-13 (Family)]] | * [[AMX-13 (Family)]] | ||
− | ; | + | ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role |
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* [[M24 (Family)]] | * [[M24 (Family)]] | ||
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* [[BT-7 (F-32)]] | * [[BT-7 (F-32)]] | ||
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* [https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar-france-amx-us-amx-13-avec-tourelle-chaffee/ <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> AMX-US (AMX-13 Avec Tourelle Chaffee)] | * [https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar-france-amx-us-amx-13-avec-tourelle-chaffee/ <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> AMX-US (AMX-13 Avec Tourelle Chaffee)] | ||
+ | {{TankManufacturer AMX}} | ||
{{France light tanks}} | {{France light tanks}} | ||
{{France premium ground vehicles}} | {{France premium ground vehicles}} |
Latest revision as of 06:40, 21 May 2024
This page is about the French light tank AMX-13-M24. For other versions, see AMX-13 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The AMX-13-US is the second subvariant of the AMX-13/75 FL-10, which is the first variant of the AMX-13 light tank family. In 1956, the French Army and the Direction des Etudes et Fabrications d'Armements were looking into cost-effective ways to modernize their fleet of aged M24 Chaffee light tanks. One approach was to combine the hull of the French AMX-13/75 FL-10 light tank with the turret of the American M24 Chaffee. While the official name of this subvariant of the AMX-13/75 FL-10 is AMX-US, it is also known by several unofficial names, including AMX-13 Chaffee, as it was known by troops, and AMX-13 Avec Tourelle Chaffee, which is often seen in some resources. There were only a few of these vehicles built. They first served in French military units tasked with policing colonies like Algeria. When they were no longer needed on the front lines, they were converted into driver-training vehicles.
Introduced in Update "Starfighters", the AMX-13-US is a light tank that performs similarly to the AMX-13/75 FL-11. It does, however, have a roof-mounted 12.7 mm M2HB Browning heavy machine gun, which will come in handy in some situations against enemy aircraft and lightly armoured vehicles. Use your superior mobility to ambush choke points and crossroads and, if necessary, capture the zones. Always scout opponents for your allies and avoid engaging multiple enemies at the same time.
General info
Survivability and armour
Armour type:
- Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret base, turret roof)
- Cast homogeneous armour (turret, gun mantlet, cupola)
Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
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Hull | 20 mm (29-30°) Turret base 20 mm (66°) Upper glacis 40 mm (cylindrical) Transmission carter 20 mm (51°) Lower glacis |
20 mm (30-31°) Turret base - Centre 20 mm Turret base - Sides 20 mm Sides |
20 mm Turret base - Centre 20 mm (31°) Turret base - Sides 15 mm (1°) Top 15 mm (44°) Bottom |
20 mm (24°) Front glacis 10 mm Centre 10 mm (5°) Rear 5 mm Vents |
Turret | 38.1 mm (8-40°) Turret front 38.1 mm (1-45°) Gun mantlet |
25.4 mm (17-26°) | 25.4 mm | 12.7 mm |
Cupola | 38.1 mm (spherical) |
Notes:
- Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.
- Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
- Mudguards and storage boxes are 4 mm thick.
Mobility
Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
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Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
Arcade | 68 | 8 | 13.9 | 418 | 515 | 30.07 | 37.05 |
Realistic | 61 | 7 | 239 | 270 | 17.19 | 19.42 |
This tank utilises an AMX-13 chassis with a 270 HP engine. At 19.4 hp/ton, the AMX-13-M24 has decent mobility, which will alllow it to get to best spots. While not one of the fastest light tanks in the game, the AMX-13 chassis, if driven correctly, will allow the player to survive long enough to see the end of battle.
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Main armament
The punchy 75 mm M6 cannon may already be familiar to players due to extensive use of its variants in American tanks, including the M3 Lee, M4 Sherman, and M24 Chaffee. It offers the same excellent selection of shells, ranging from standard M72 AP to the infamous M61 APCBC. However, unlike its American counterparts, the AMX-13-M24 does not feature stabilisation for its gun.
75 mm M6 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
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Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
Arcade | 48 | -8°/+15° | ±180° | Vertical | 28.6 | 39.5 | 48.0 | 53.1 | 56.5 | 8.45 | 7.47 | 6.89 | 6.50 |
Realistic | 17.9 | 21.0 | 25.5 | 28.2 | 30.0 |
Ammunition
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
M72 shot | AP | 91 | 88 | 78 | 67 | 57 | 49 |
M48 shell | HE | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
M61 shot | APCBC | 104 | 102 | 93 | 84 | 75 | 68 |
Shell details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
M72 shot | AP | 619 | 6.3 | - | - | - | 47° | 60° | 65° | |||
M48 shell | HE | 463 | 6.3 | 0.2 | 0.1 | 666 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
M61 shot | APCBC | 618 | 6.79 | 1.2 | 14 | 63.7 | 48° | 63° | 71° |
Smoke shell characteristics | ||||||
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Ammunition | Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Screen radius (m) |
Screen deploy time (s) |
Screen hold time (s) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
M64 | 603 | 6.9 | 9 | 5 | 20 | 50 |
Ammo racks
Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
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48 | 29 (+19) | 15 (+33) | 1 (+47) | No |
Notes:
- Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
- Packing 15 (+33) shells will keep ammo only on the hull's right side.
Machine guns
With the M24 Chaffee turret comes the standard set of a roof-mounted Browning .50 cal and the coaxial .30 cal. The .50 can be used for both anti-air duty and for destroying tracks, add-on armour, side-skirts, and lightly armoured vehicles (such as open-top SPAAGs and SPGs), but the .30 is only suitable for open-top vehicles and for spotting enemy vehicles due to the lack of penetrative power.
12.7 mm M2HB | ||||
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Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
Pintle | 1,000 (200) | 577 | -10°/+70° | ±60° |
7.62 mm M1919A4 | ||||
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Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
Coaxial | 2,000 (250) | 500 | - | - |
Usage in battles
If a player wants to do well in this vehicle, they must understand that playing recklessly in this tank will get you killed immediately. The player's mindset has to be adjusted due to the unusual combination. As with each light tank, the player has to use all tools available, ranging from smoke grenades to optics. It is also recommended to use the roof-mounted .50 cal to aid you on the battlefield. Hug choke points, intersections, and, if needed, push the objective. In Arcade battles, take advantage of the light tank's Airstrike ability to assist in both the air and on the ground. In both Realistic and Simulator battles, spotting is your primary goal, but the player can easily set up ambushes and profit from this premium vehicle.
Enemies worth noting:
M4A2/A4: these Sherman tanks are widely used by over 3 nations that spread across both the Allied and the Axis side, so no matter which nation you play they can be quite tough to destroy in the hands of a skilled tanker. Given the rather weak penetration of your short 75 mm gun, their hull can be almost impossible to penetrate when angled, hull down or 300 m away. For a M4A4, there are 2 apparent bulges on the upper front plate, a penetration through there is a guaranteed kill most of the times. But in case the opponent covers them up or when it's an M4A2, aim for the middle parts of the gun mantlet or the turret armour unprotected by the mantlet, you can at least make them defenseless.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Good mobility: high top speed, good turning and climbing ability
- Equipped with smoke launchers (14 individual smoke grenades)
- Engine in the front protects the crew in head-on engagements
- Uses the same gun as the M24 tanks: various shell types and good penetration
- Excellent gun depression allows for shooting from behind ridges
- M61 APCBC shell with explosive filler can easily knock out enemy vehicles with a single shot
- Fast turret traverse allows it to track targets easily
- Pintle-mounted .50 cal MG allows for air defense and some anti-tank ability (e.g. Marder III, Sd.Kfz.234 series, Breda 501, etc.)
- Scouting ability
- Gun stabilizer
Cons:
- Light armour overall with a prominent weak spot: the base of the turret
- Unstable cannon pitch due to tall turret layout and bouncy hull
- After firing, it is difficult to stay on target with the recoil
- After braking, Acquiring targets is slow as the hull rocks back and forth for a short while
- Tall silhouette
- Poor reverse speed
- Shells drop dramatically at long distances, making distant and moving targets hard to shoot at
- Reload time is pretty slow for a light tank
- Low ammo count can be a problem in long games or RB/SB matches but not so low that ammo rack detonations are rare
History
In 1956, the French military attempted to modernise its light tank "fleet", and a few solutions were suggested. One of these was to attach an M24 turret to the newly developed AMX-13 chassis, which lead to the designation AMX-US. Soon, other nicknames were added, like "AMX-13 Chaffee" or "AMX-13 Avec Tourelle Chaffee" (French: AMX-13 with Chaffee turret). A small number of these conversions were produced until the FL11 turret was introduced. These tanks were sent peacekeep and protect French colonial interest, but were soon replaced with the new AMX-13 with an oscillating turret.
Media
- Skins
- Videos
See also
- Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
- Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
External links
Ateliers de construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX) | |
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Light tanks | |
AMX-13 | AMX-13-M24 · AMX-13 (FL11) · AMX-13 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-90 · AMX-13 (HOT) |
Armoured cars | AMX-10RC |
Medium tanks | AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100) |
MBTs | |
AMX-30 | AMX-30 · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 Super |
AMX-32/40 | AMX-32 (105) · AMX-32 · AMX-40 |
Heavy tanks | AMX-50 Surbaissé · AMX-50 Surblindé |
Tank destroyers | ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch |
SPAAGs | AMX-13 DCA 40 · AMX-30 S DCA |
Export | AMX-13 |
France light tanks | |
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AMC.34/35 | AMC.34 YR · AMC.35 (ACG.1) |
H.35/39 | H.35 · H.39 · H.39 "Cambronne" |
AMX-13 | AMX-13 (FL11) · AMX-13-M24 · AMX-13 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-90 · AMX-13 (HOT) |
Wheeled | AML-90 · AMX-10RC · Vextra 105 |
AMD.35 | AMD.35 · AMD.35 (SA35) |
E.B.R. | E.B.R. (1951) · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) |
Other | FCM.36 · R.35 (SA38) · Char 25t · MARS 15 · VBCI-2 (MCT30) |
Austria | SK-105A2 |
Great Britain | ▄Crusader Mk.II |
Netherlands | CV 9035NL |
USA | LVT-4/40 · ▄M3A3 Stuart |
France premium ground vehicles | |
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Light tanks | AMD.35 (SA35) · H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) · VBCI-2 (MCT30) |
Medium tanks | M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super · AMX-50 (TO90/930) |
Heavy tanks | B1 ter · 2C bis · Somua SM |
Tank destroyers | Lorraine 155 Mle.50 |