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{{About
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.41]].
 
  
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The {{PAGENAME}} is equipped with the [[MK 108 (30 mm)|30 mm MK 108]] autocannon, which has insane damage potential.  With the third greatest in-game burst rate of 14.52 kg/s (32.01 lbs/s) and the great explosive warhead "minengeschoss" (=mine-shell) this weapon will vaporize aircraft, especially bombers. But every coin has a flip side and the "Sledgehammer" is no exception. The amazing rate of fire is bought with a very short barrel and small propellant charges, resulting in very bad ballistics: The slowest shells with the greatest bullet drop in-game. The Mk 108 makes no compromise, only the extremes.
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To combat constant Allied bomber raids, the need for a high-performance interceptor was at an all-time high. Many proposals and designs were made and one of those designs was the Me 262 C-2b, a variant based on the Me 262 A series fitted with rocket boosters. Nicknamed the "Home Defender", it would retain the two normal turbojets with the addition of two rocket boosters, one mounted on top of each engine exhaust. Although the idea was thought of in 1943, it would take two years for the only 262 C-2b prototype to take flight in March 1945. During the test flight, it boasted an incredible climb rate and was able to reach 30,000 feet (9,100 metres) in three minutes. However, the Me 262 C-2b arrived far too late into the war.
  
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The MK 108 is a very bad anti-fighter weapon particular in a jet to jet combat. Bullet drop and slow velocity result in difficult lead shots in ranges above 300 m (350 yds). In manoeuvre fights this trait gets even worse, the high speeds of jet battle push the necessary lead for hitting the target high, very high and in front of the enemy. Training with this weapon-system on a custom battle against random enemies is heavily advised.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was introduced in [[Update 1.41]]. Since the C-2b is based on the Me 262 A, it has four MK 108 30 mm cannons mounted in the nose. Unfortunately, the MK 108s are insufficient at jet battle ratings. The velocity requires excessive lead compared to other cannons and the MK 108's lack significant effective range. The 262 C-2b has around six minutes of booster fuel, and it should be mainly used in accelerating to a suitable speed. Once the booster fuel runs out, the C-2b becomes outclassed by many of its opponents. The Me 262 C-2b is a capable plane, however players should expect it to be difficult to use.
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The Sledgehammer cannons have an ammo indicator in the cockpit. It sits directly beneath the compass (the one with the little plane in the middle). A typical bar ammunition counter of the Luftwaffe. The left white column is for the two top auto-cannons. The right one is for the bottom two cannons, this bar is also taller than the left one as the ammo count is different for the two pairs.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 6,000 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 6,000 m)
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| 909 || 865 || 29.3 || 30.3 || 24.0 || 20.0
 
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==== Details ====
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 580 || 580 || 320 || ~15 || ~7
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~11 || ~5
 
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| 6,770 kg || 7,353 kg
 
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! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Maximum booster<br/>thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each booster, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}  
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! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Maximum booster<br/>thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each booster, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Combined engine<br/>& booster thrust @ 0 m|The total thrust produced by all engines and boosters. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
 
! colspan="3" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (108% with booster)
 
! colspan="3" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (108% with booster)
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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* 15 mm Steel - plate behind the pilot seat
 
* 15 mm Steel - plate behind the pilot seat
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* 16 mm Steel - 2 x plates protecting ammunition
 
* 16 mm Steel - 2 x plates protecting ammunition
 
* 90 mm Bulletproof glass
 
* 90 mm Bulletproof glass
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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The biggest issue of the Schwalbe is its bad acceleration across all speeds. Thus "Compressor" and "New Engine" upgrades have the highest priority. The stock belts are decent, but the high explosive content increases with the new ammo, so including belts into the upgrade route is not a bad idea. The same applies to the rockets. Being able to knock out bases or tanks(direct hit) with these warheads, makes the late game much more easy to win if the last enemies are running or hiding. "New cannons" is an interesting upgrade choice as it increases accuracy above 300 m (350 yds), but the MK 108 will still be unable to hit a barn-door at 500 m (600 yds). Cool-down and jamming is nothing the "Sledgehammer" has to deal with, considering the damage potential and low ammo count per gun.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
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{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)}}
 
{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)}}
  
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* 4 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (2 x 100 rpg top + 2 x 80 rpg bottom = 360 total)
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* 4 x 30 mm MK 108 cannons, nose-mounted (2 x 100 rpg top + 2 x 80 rpg bottom = 360 total)
  
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The {{PAGENAME}} is equipped with 4 x [[MK 108 (30 mm)|30 mm MK 108]] autocannon, which represents a consequent damage potential. With a high burst mass rate of 14.52 kg/s (32.01 lbs/s) and the great Minengeschoß (mine-shell) explosive warhead, this weapon will vaporize aircraft, especially bombers. But every coin has a flip side and the "Sledgehammer" is no exception. The 30 mm cannon comes with a very short barrel and small propellant charges, resulting in very poor ballistics: the shells are slow with great drop over distance.
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=== Defensive armament ===
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The MK 108 is a very bad anti-fighter weapon particular in a jet to jet combat. Bullet drop and slow velocity result in difficult lead shots in ranges above 300 m (350 yds). In manoeuvre fights, this trait gets even worse: the high speed of jet battles increases the necessary lead for hitting the target, putting far in front of the enemy. Training with this weapon-system on a custom battle against random enemies is heavily advised.
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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'''Climb''': All around usable
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The Sledgehammer cannons have the typical bar ammunition counter of the Luftwaffe in the cockpit. It sits directly beneath the compass (the one with the little plane in the middle). The left white column is for the two top autocannons. The right one is for the bottom two cannons, this bar is also taller than the left one as the ammo count is different for the two pairs.
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Self-explanatory, rockets are used to boost oneself up to > 7000 m. Henceforth denying enemy fighters absolute altitude advantage. Of course, this must be followed through to the extreme, as once altitude advantage is gone, so will be the Me 262. Especially high-altitude prop-aircraft will be dangerous foes as jet-engine's power steadily declines over altitude. Whereas turbochargers and superchargers will keep the piston engine's power output steady. Watch out for these particular foes: [[P-47D-25|P-47D]], [[Bostwick's P-47M-1-RE|P-47M]], [[F8F-1B|F8F-1B]], [[Spitfire F Mk 24|Spitfire Mk 24]]/[[Spitfire F Mk 22|Mk 22]], [[J7W1|J7W1]] and [[Ta 152 H-1|Ta 152H-1]], if this strategy is chosen. Commence in classic Boom and Zoom tactics.
 
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'''Aggressive climb''': Useful against pure enemy jet teams
 
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The same principle as merely ''"Climb"'', however with the twist of actively engaging towards the hostile airfield to intercept with E-advantage enemy fighters. Air-Domination is established beyond the frontline with the prime directive to hinder enemy aircraft (especially jets) to gain any further altitude. If piston aircraft are present, this may prove to be difficult as these machines will be ''on'' or even ''above'' the Me 262 C upon contact. Hostile jets though will again not be on a similar energy state, making them on the first two initial passes easy prey. Good energy management is key though!
 
  
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'''Rush''': Enemy team energy denial
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== Usage in battles ==
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This strategy can prove deadly but will provide similar aggressive team-mates with a better outset once team vs team combat starts.
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Start boosters after spawning and use them to reach maximum level flight speed. Reduce engine throttle before losing a wing! Head straight for the enemy and disturb them in their acceleration & climb. The idea is to either seize targets of opportunity (e.g. AFK climbers, unaware targets) or to confuse the foes to give one's allies the aforementioned better vantage position.
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Rocket boost should either be saved to compete against post-war jets or be used immediately to propel oneself up to 6,000 m before the hostile forces had the opportunity to gain any energy advantage.
  
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Rocket boost should either be saved to compete against post-war jets or be used immediately to propel oneself up to 6,000 m before the hostile forces had the opportunity to gain any energy advantage.
 
  
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===Manual Engine Control===
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'''Climb''' - Self-explanatory. Rockets are used to boost oneself up to > 7,000 m. Henceforth denying enemy fighters absolute altitude advantage. Of course, this must be followed through to the extreme, as once altitude advantage is gone, so will be the Me 262. Especially high-altitude propeller-driven aircraft will be dangerous foes as jet-engine's power steadily declines over altitude. Whereas turbochargers and superchargers will keep the piston engine's power output steady. Watch out for late piston-engine fighters, even if they're out of their BR range. Apply classic Boom and Zoom tactics to eliminate them.
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===Modules===
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'''Aggressive climb''' - Useful against pure enemy jet teams. The same principle as merely "Climb", however with the twist of actively engaging towards the hostile airfield to intercept with E-advantage enemy fighters. Air-Domination is established beyond the frontline with the prime directive to hinder enemy aircraft (especially jets) to gain any further altitude. If piston aircraft are present, this may prove to be difficult as these machines will be on or even above the Me 262 C upon contact. Hostile jets though will again not be on a similar energy state, making them on the first two initial passes easy prey. Good energy management is key though.
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| Offensive 30 mm
 
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| Airframe
 
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The biggest issue of the Schwalbe is its bad acceleration across all speeds. Thus "Compressor" and "New Engine" upgrades have the highest priority. The stock belts are decent, but the high explosive content increases with the new ammo, so including belts into the upgrade route is not a bad idea. The same applies to the rockets. Being able to knockout bases or tanks(direct hit) with these warheads, makes the late game much more easy to win if the last enemies are running or hiding. "New cannons" is an interesting upgrade choice as it increases accuracy above 300 m (350 yds), but the MK 108 will still be unable to hit a yarn-door at 500 m (600 yds). Cool-down and jamming is nothing the "Sledgehammer" has to deal with, considering the damage potential and low ammo count per gun.
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'''Rush''' - Enemy team energy denial. This strategy can prove deadly but will provide similar aggressive team-mates with a better outset once team vs team combat starts. Start boosters after spawning and use them to reach maximum level flight speed. Reduce engine throttle before losing a wing. Head straight for the enemy and disturb them in their acceleration & climb. The idea is to either seize targets of opportunity (e.g. AFK climbers, unaware targets) or to confuse the foes to give one's allies the better vantage position.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Can use boosters to outrun and outclimb other aircraft
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* Excellent energy retention, can hold onto speed earned from boosters for a good while
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* Good roll rate
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* Devastating offensive armament at close range
 
* Great plane for arcade battles, as it climbs quickly with the rocket boosters and can land to refuel them
 
* Great plane for arcade battles, as it climbs quickly with the rocket boosters and can land to refuel them
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* Boom and zoom is a must with this plane, as it keeps up with all other jets
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* Decently agile when on a low fuel load.
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* Can use boosters to outrun and out-climb other aircraft
 
  
 
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* Handling feels Heavy
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* Handling feels heavy
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* Boom and zoom is a must with this plane, as it struggles to keeps up with all other jets at the battle rating
 
* Slow compared to other aircraft at the rank
 
* Slow compared to other aircraft at the rank
 
* Horrible climb rate if boosters aren't in use
 
* Horrible climb rate if boosters aren't in use
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* Performs significantly worse than the A-1a variant unless boosters are engaged
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* Rocket fuel is very heavy, leading to worsened turn rate and climb r
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* MK 108 cannons are not well suited for jet-on-jet combat
 
* No airbrakes to slow down
 
* No airbrakes to slow down
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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After constant bombing raids by Allied bombers, Germany realized they needed a more capable interceptor that could reach the heights bomber crews operated at in record time. One of the proposals was the Me 262 C. Nicknamed Heimatschützer ("Home Defender"), these variants were intended to be fitted with one or more rockets that would greatly increase the climb rate and reach Allied bombers much faster. The Me 262 C-2b would receive two BMW 109-718 rocket motors mounted on the engines. The fuel pumps would inject both a nitric acid oxidizer and hydrocarbon fuel. This generated around 2,200 lb of thrust and greatly boosted the climb rate. During the Me 262 C-2bs one and only test flight, it managed to achieve 30,000 feet (~9,100 m) in only three minutes. Unfortunately for the C-2b, it was introduced far too late into the war to have any impact.
  
 
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Latest revision as of 07:08, 12 October 2024

Introducing Wiki 3.0
This page is about the German jet fighter Me 262 C-2b. For other versions, see Me 262 (Family).
Me 262 C-2b
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Me 262 C-2b
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Description

To combat constant Allied bomber raids, the need for a high-performance interceptor was at an all-time high. Many proposals and designs were made and one of those designs was the Me 262 C-2b, a variant based on the Me 262 A series fitted with rocket boosters. Nicknamed the "Home Defender", it would retain the two normal turbojets with the addition of two rocket boosters, one mounted on top of each engine exhaust. Although the idea was thought of in 1943, it would take two years for the only 262 C-2b prototype to take flight in March 1945. During the test flight, it boasted an incredible climb rate and was able to reach 30,000 feet (9,100 metres) in three minutes. However, the Me 262 C-2b arrived far too late into the war.

The Me 262 C-2b Heimatschützer II was introduced in Update 1.41. Since the C-2b is based on the Me 262 A, it has four MK 108 30 mm cannons mounted in the nose. Unfortunately, the MK 108s are insufficient at jet battle ratings. The velocity requires excessive lead compared to other cannons and the MK 108's lack significant effective range. The 262 C-2b has around six minutes of booster fuel, and it should be mainly used in accelerating to a suitable speed. Once the booster fuel runs out, the C-2b becomes outclassed by many of its opponents. The Me 262 C-2b is a capable plane, however players should expect it to be difficult to use.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 6 000 m865 km/h
Turn time30 s
Max altitude14 900 m
Engine2 х BMW 003-R
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight8 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 6,000 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 824 797 14900 31.6 32.5 16.5 15.6 628
Upgraded 909 865 29.3 30.3 24.0 20.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ X X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1050 450 498 469 320 ~11 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 500 < 600 < 680 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel, no booster fuel)
BMW 003-R 2 4,775 kg 260 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load, no booster fuel) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 6m fuel 20m fuel
673 kg Axial-flow turbojet 5,070 kg 5,653 kg 8,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (108%, no booster)
Condition 100% 108% 6m fuel 20m fuel MTOW
Stationary 801 kgf 910 kgf 0.36 0.32 0.23
Optimal 801 kgf
(0 km/h) 		910 kgf
(0 km/h) 		0.35 0.32 0.23
Booster (BMW 109-718 - Liquid-fuel rocket) Aircraft mass
Number Booster
weight (each) 		Fuel
weight (each) 		Burn
Time 		Can be
shutdown		 Jettisoned
after use 		Mass with full booster fuel (no weapons load)
6m fuel 20m fuel
2 165 kg 850 kg 163s Yes No 6,770 kg 7,353 kg
Condition Maximum booster
thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) 		Combined engine
& booster thrust @ 0 m 		Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (108% with booster)
6m fuel 20m fuel
Stationary 1,224 kgf 4,268 kgf 0.63 0.58
Optimal 1,224 kgf
(any speed) 		4,268 kgf
(0kph) 		0.63 0.58

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 050 km/h
Gear450 km/h
  • 15 mm Steel - plate behind the pilot seat
  • 15 mm Steel - plate headrest
  • 15 mm Steel - Cockpit for plate
  • 15 mm Steel - Instrument panel plate
  • 16 mm Steel - 2 x plates protecting ammunition
  • 90 mm Bulletproof glass

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 745 → 4 744 Sl icon.png
RB10 514 → 13 321 Sl icon.png
SB13 429 → 17 014 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications102 000 Rp icon.png
164 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 200 Ge icon.png
Crew training98 000 Sl icon.png
Experts340 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces780 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
202 / 202 / 202 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
18 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
27 000 Sl icon.png
460 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
18 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
27 000 Sl icon.png
460 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
mk108_belt_pack
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods weapon.png
mk108_new_gun
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png

The biggest issue of the Schwalbe is its bad acceleration across all speeds. Thus "Compressor" and "New Engine" upgrades have the highest priority. The stock belts are decent, but the high explosive content increases with the new ammo, so including belts into the upgrade route is not a bad idea. The same applies to the rockets. Being able to knock out bases or tanks(direct hit) with these warheads, makes the late game much more easy to win if the last enemies are running or hiding. "New cannons" is an interesting upgrade choice as it increases accuracy above 300 m (350 yds), but the MK 108 will still be unable to hit a barn-door at 500 m (600 yds). Cool-down and jamming is nothing the "Sledgehammer" has to deal with, considering the damage potential and low ammo count per gun.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 14 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon
Ammunition360 rounds
Fire rate600 shots/min
Main article: MK 108 (30 mm)

The Me 262 C-2b is armed with:

  • 4 x 30 mm MK 108 cannons, nose-mounted (2 x 100 rpg top + 2 x 80 rpg bottom = 360 total)

The Me 262 C-2b is equipped with 4 x 30 mm MK 108 autocannon, which represents a consequent damage potential. With a high burst mass rate of 14.52 kg/s (32.01 lbs/s) and the great Minengeschoß (mine-shell) explosive warhead, this weapon will vaporize aircraft, especially bombers. But every coin has a flip side and the "Sledgehammer" is no exception. The 30 mm cannon comes with a very short barrel and small propellant charges, resulting in very poor ballistics: the shells are slow with great drop over distance.

The MK 108 is a very bad anti-fighter weapon particular in a jet to jet combat. Bullet drop and slow velocity result in difficult lead shots in ranges above 300 m (350 yds). In manoeuvre fights, this trait gets even worse: the high speed of jet battles increases the necessary lead for hitting the target, putting far in front of the enemy. Training with this weapon-system on a custom battle against random enemies is heavily advised.

The Sledgehammer cannons have the typical bar ammunition counter of the Luftwaffe in the cockpit. It sits directly beneath the compass (the one with the little plane in the middle). The left white column is for the two top autocannons. The right one is for the bottom two cannons, this bar is also taller than the left one as the ammo count is different for the two pairs.

Usage in battles

Rocket boost should either be saved to compete against post-war jets or be used immediately to propel oneself up to 6,000 m before the hostile forces had the opportunity to gain any energy advantage.

Anti-fighter combat strategies include:

Climb - Self-explanatory. Rockets are used to boost oneself up to > 7,000 m. Henceforth denying enemy fighters absolute altitude advantage. Of course, this must be followed through to the extreme, as once altitude advantage is gone, so will be the Me 262. Especially high-altitude propeller-driven aircraft will be dangerous foes as jet-engine's power steadily declines over altitude. Whereas turbochargers and superchargers will keep the piston engine's power output steady. Watch out for late piston-engine fighters, even if they're out of their BR range. Apply classic Boom and Zoom tactics to eliminate them.

Aggressive climb - Useful against pure enemy jet teams. The same principle as merely "Climb", however with the twist of actively engaging towards the hostile airfield to intercept with E-advantage enemy fighters. Air-Domination is established beyond the frontline with the prime directive to hinder enemy aircraft (especially jets) to gain any further altitude. If piston aircraft are present, this may prove to be difficult as these machines will be on or even above the Me 262 C upon contact. Hostile jets though will again not be on a similar energy state, making them on the first two initial passes easy prey. Good energy management is key though.

Rush - Enemy team energy denial. This strategy can prove deadly but will provide similar aggressive team-mates with a better outset once team vs team combat starts. Start boosters after spawning and use them to reach maximum level flight speed. Reduce engine throttle before losing a wing. Head straight for the enemy and disturb them in their acceleration & climb. The idea is to either seize targets of opportunity (e.g. AFK climbers, unaware targets) or to confuse the foes to give one's allies the better vantage position.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Can use boosters to outrun and outclimb other aircraft
  • Excellent energy retention, can hold onto speed earned from boosters for a good while
  • Good roll rate
  • Devastating offensive armament at close range
  • Great plane for arcade battles, as it climbs quickly with the rocket boosters and can land to refuel them
  • Decently agile when on a low fuel load.

Cons:

  • Handling feels heavy
  • Boom and zoom is a must with this plane, as it struggles to keeps up with all other jets at the battle rating
  • Slow compared to other aircraft at the rank
  • Horrible climb rate if boosters aren't in use
  • Performs significantly worse than the A-1a variant unless boosters are engaged
  • Rocket fuel is very heavy, leading to worsened turn rate and climb r
  • MK 108 cannons are not well suited for jet-on-jet combat
  • No airbrakes to slow down

History

After constant bombing raids by Allied bombers, Germany realized they needed a more capable interceptor that could reach the heights bomber crews operated at in record time. One of the proposals was the Me 262 C. Nicknamed Heimatschützer ("Home Defender"), these variants were intended to be fitted with one or more rockets that would greatly increase the climb rate and reach Allied bombers much faster. The Me 262 C-2b would receive two BMW 109-718 rocket motors mounted on the engines. The fuel pumps would inject both a nitric acid oxidizer and hydrocarbon fuel. This generated around 2,200 lb of thrust and greatly boosted the climb rate. During the Me 262 C-2bs one and only test flight, it managed to achieve 30,000 feet (~9,100 m) in only three minutes. Unfortunately for the C-2b, it was introduced far too late into the war to have any impact.

Media

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The Me-262 family discusses the Me 262 C-2b at 5:17 - War Thunder Official Channel

See also

Related development

External links


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