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== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]]. It was introduced in [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]].
  
 
The SU-5-1 is a crude SPG built off the T-26 chassis. The T-26 chassis of the SU-5-1 allows it to place itself with relative ease on any spot of the map. The high gun shield can lure the enemy into firing too high, missing the crew. If a hit goes into the body, with a bit of luck, APHE ammo will not detonate on contact and instead go straight through, leaving little spalling damage. The vehicle's crew of 5 will allow some casualties before loss of efficiency.
 
The SU-5-1 is a crude SPG built off the T-26 chassis. The T-26 chassis of the SU-5-1 allows it to place itself with relative ease on any spot of the map. The high gun shield can lure the enemy into firing too high, missing the crew. If a hit goes into the body, with a bit of luck, APHE ammo will not detonate on contact and instead go straight through, leaving little spalling damage. The vehicle's crew of 5 will allow some casualties before loss of efficiency.
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|1902/30 (76 mm)}}
 
{{main|1902/30 (76 mm)}}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | [[1902/30 (76 mm)|76 mm 1902/30]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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|-
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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|-
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! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 8 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+60° || rowspan="2" | ±15° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 7.0 || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 6.5 || rowspan="2" | _._ || rowspan="2" | _._ || rowspan="2" | 5.0
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! ''Realistic''
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| 4.8 || __._ || __._ || __._ || 8.0
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|-
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|}
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==== Ammunition ====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
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|-
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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|-
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| BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) || APHEBC || 87 || 85 || 76 || 67 || 59 || 52
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|-
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| BR-350SP || APBC || 102 || 100 || 91 || 81 || 72 || 64
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|-
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| OF-350M || HE || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10
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|-
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| Sh-354T || Shrapnel || 37 || 35 || 29 || 25 || 20 || 17
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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! rowspan="2" | Normalisation at 30°<br>from horizontal
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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|-
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
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|-
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| BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) || APHEBC || 662 || 6.3 || 1.2 || 14.0 || 150 || +4.0° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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| BR-350SP || APBC || 655 || 6.78 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +4.0° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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|-
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| OF-350M || HE || 680 || 6.2 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 621 || +0.0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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|-
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| Sh-354T || Shrapnel || 680 || 6.2 || 0.5 || 8.0 || 85 || +0.0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
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|-
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! Full<br>ammo
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! 1st<br>rack empty
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
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| '''8''' || 1&nbsp;''(+7)'' || No
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! Maximum magnification
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! Main Gun optics
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| colspan="2" | ___
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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This vehicle is the perfect SPG for Russian tech tree beginners: somewhat fragile, relatively fast and a gun similar to what is found on higher ranks, it is a great trainer for later gameplay.  
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This vehicle is the perfect SPG for Russian tech tree beginners: somewhat fragile, relatively fast and a gun similar to what is found on higher ranks, it is a great trainer for later gameplay.
  
 
As an open-backed SPG, the SU-5-1 should never be seen by the enemy, especially if flanked. Since the gun's ballistics are somewhat tricky and the ammo count is limited, it is recommended to ambush enemies near capture points (preferably by your team's side).
 
As an open-backed SPG, the SU-5-1 should never be seen by the enemy, especially if flanked. Since the gun's ballistics are somewhat tricky and the ammo count is limited, it is recommended to ambush enemies near capture points (preferably by your team's side).
  
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As an '''ambusher''', bring supporting fire in the rear lines of the team, never at the front but not too far, repelling enemy assaults on the point. Find a spot with a good view near a capture point or bury yourself in a dark alley and wait to see the enemy fall into your sights. Do not forget to move to the nearest captured point after each 1-2 enemy down to reload since your ammo count is that low (sometimes you won't even have enough ammo to finish the second enemy, make sure to engage only if necessary in this case).  
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As an '''ambusher''', bring supporting fire in the rear lines of the team, never at the front but not too far, repelling enemy assaults on the point. Find a spot with a good view near a capture point or bury yourself in a dark alley and wait to see the enemy fall into your sights. Do not forget to move to the nearest captured point after each 1-2 enemy down to reload since your ammo count is that low (sometimes you won't even have enough ammo to finish the second enemy, make sure to engage only if necessary in this case).
  
 
This role can be accomplished at any time in the game but it needs two things to be fulfilled: a ''captured objective'' nearby and a ''cooperative team''. The ''objective'' will be your ammo and target supply since when waiting on a captured point you get an ammo refill. Ammo will be refilled one by one at roughly the same rate as your vehicle can shoot (about a minute for full loadout in this case). A ''cooperative team'' will help holding the point, since you can't do it all by yourself since moving means putting yourself in high risk of being spotted in a wrong position. If your team looses the point, do not rush for it (if you're not out yet...) since the enemy team may follow behind the person capturing the point. Wait for your allies to help and '''stay hidden''', taking careful shots at well-chosen enemies.
 
This role can be accomplished at any time in the game but it needs two things to be fulfilled: a ''captured objective'' nearby and a ''cooperative team''. The ''objective'' will be your ammo and target supply since when waiting on a captured point you get an ammo refill. Ammo will be refilled one by one at roughly the same rate as your vehicle can shoot (about a minute for full loadout in this case). A ''cooperative team'' will help holding the point, since you can't do it all by yourself since moving means putting yourself in high risk of being spotted in a wrong position. If your team looses the point, do not rush for it (if you're not out yet...) since the enemy team may follow behind the person capturing the point. Wait for your allies to help and '''stay hidden''', taking careful shots at well-chosen enemies.
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=== Modules ===
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! Tier
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! colspan="2" | Mobility
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! Protection
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! colspan="2" | Firepower
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| I
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| Tracks
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| Parts
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| Horizontal Drive
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|-
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| II
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| Suspension
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| Brake System
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| FPE
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| Adjustment of Fire
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| BR-350SP
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|-
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| III
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| Filters
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| Crew Replenishment
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| Elevation Mechanism
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| IV
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| Transmission
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| Engine
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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* Decent penetration on stock rounds
 
* Decent penetration on stock rounds
 
* Decent reload (6.5s base)
 
* Decent reload (6.5s base)
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Extremely low ammo count (8 rounds)
 
* Extremely low ammo count (8 rounds)
 
* Exposed and cramped gun crew that can be destroyed with machine gun fire, or a HE shell somewhere in the rear.
 
* Exposed and cramped gun crew that can be destroyed with machine gun fire, or a HE shell somewhere in the rear.
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== History ==
 
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== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
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* ''other literature.''
 
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{{USSR tank destroyers}}
 
{{USSR tank destroyers}}

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Introducing Wiki 3.0
SU-5-1
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SU-5-1
USSR flag.png USSR
I Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
1.0 1.0 1.0
Class:
Research:2 900 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:700 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

GarageImage SU-5-1.jpg


The SU-5-1 is a rank I Soviet tank destroyer with a battle rating of 1.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.67 "Assault".

The SU-5-1 is a crude SPG built off the T-26 chassis. The T-26 chassis of the SU-5-1 allows it to place itself with relative ease on any spot of the map. The high gun shield can lure the enemy into firing too high, missing the crew. If a hit goes into the body, with a bit of luck, APHE ammo will not detonate on contact and instead go straight through, leaving little spalling damage. The vehicle's crew of 5 will allow some casualties before loss of efficiency.

General info

Survivability and armour

Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.

Mobility

Game Mode Mobility characteristics Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Max Speed Weight AoA Weight Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 33 10.0 N/A 128 157 12.80 15.70
Realistic 30 80 90 8.00 9.00

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: 1902/30 (76 mm)
76 mm 1902/30 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 8 -5°/+60° ±15° N/A 7.0 __._ __._ __._ __._ 6.5 _._ _._ 5.0
Realistic 4.8 __._ __._ __._ 8.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) APHEBC 87 85 76 67 59 52
BR-350SP APBC 102 100 91 81 72 64
OF-350M HE 10 10 10 10 10 10
Sh-354T Shrapnel 37 35 29 25 20 17
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Normalisation at 30°
from horizontal 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) APHEBC 662 6.3 1.2 14.0 150 +4.0° 48° 63° 71°
BR-350SP APBC 655 6.78 N/A N/A N/A +4.0° 48° 63° 71°
OF-350M HE 680 6.2 0.05 0.1 621 +0.0° 79° 80° 81°
Sh-354T Shrapnel 680 6.2 0.5 8.0 85 +0.0° 62° 69° 73°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
8 1 (+7) No

Optics

SU-5-1 Optics
Default magnification Maximum magnification
Main Gun optics X1.9 X3.5
Comparable optics ___

Usage in battles

This vehicle is the perfect SPG for Russian tech tree beginners: somewhat fragile, relatively fast and a gun similar to what is found on higher ranks, it is a great trainer for later gameplay.

As an open-backed SPG, the SU-5-1 should never be seen by the enemy, especially if flanked. Since the gun's ballistics are somewhat tricky and the ammo count is limited, it is recommended to ambush enemies near capture points (preferably by your team's side).

As an ambusher, bring supporting fire in the rear lines of the team, never at the front but not too far, repelling enemy assaults on the point. Find a spot with a good view near a capture point or bury yourself in a dark alley and wait to see the enemy fall into your sights. Do not forget to move to the nearest captured point after each 1-2 enemy down to reload since your ammo count is that low (sometimes you won't even have enough ammo to finish the second enemy, make sure to engage only if necessary in this case).

This role can be accomplished at any time in the game but it needs two things to be fulfilled: a captured objective nearby and a cooperative team. The objective will be your ammo and target supply since when waiting on a captured point you get an ammo refill. Ammo will be refilled one by one at roughly the same rate as your vehicle can shoot (about a minute for full loadout in this case). A cooperative team will help holding the point, since you can't do it all by yourself since moving means putting yourself in high risk of being spotted in a wrong position. If your team looses the point, do not rush for it (if you're not out yet...) since the enemy team may follow behind the person capturing the point. Wait for your allies to help and stay hidden, taking careful shots at well-chosen enemies.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire BR-350SP
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Decent penetration on stock rounds
  • Decent reload (6.5s base)
  • Good gun traverse angle.
  • High crew count means it can afford to take a few shots, especially from tanks without HE filler or MG.
  • Transmission in the front can absorb shots (i.e. in a sniper battle, it is the "ideal" spot to be shot).
  • Good shell diversity (somewhat meaningless since it is recommended to fill it with APHE).

Cons:

  • Extremely low ammo count (8 rounds)
  • Exposed and cramped gun crew that can be destroyed with machine gun fire, or a HE shell somewhere in the rear.
  • Rather tall profile due to gun placement.
  • Poor gun depression of -2°.
  • weak front armour (machine guns can penetrate this vehicle).
  • Somewhat low shell speeds means it's hard to land a shot on a moving target.

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the tank;
  • other literature.


USSR tank destroyers
SU-76M  SU-76M · SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps) · SU-85A
SU-57B  SU-57B · SU-76D
T-34 Derivatives  SU-122 · SU-85 · SU-85M · SU-100 · SU-122P
Heavy Tank Derivatives  SU-100Y · ISU-122 · ISU-122S · SU-152 · ISU-152 · Object 268
SU-100P and Derivatives  SU-100P · Object 120
Wheeled  YaG-10 (29-K)
Airborne  ASU-57 · ASU-85
Rocket  BM-8-24 · BM-13N · BM-31-12
ATGM  IT-1 · Shturm-S · Object 775 · Khrizantema-S
Artillery  2S1 · 2S3M
Other  SU-5-1 · ZiS-30 · SU-122-54
USA  SU-57

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