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== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was an upgraded version of the AMR.33 light tank, addressing issues with tracks and suspension. Despite being larger and heavier, it was faster and more manoeuvrable thanks to a bigger engine and improved suspension. During the Battle for France in 1940, 167 of these tanks were in service, many equipped with 13.2 mm machine guns. A subvariant called ZT3 was planned to carry a 25 mm anti-tank gun, but only ten were produced and issued before France surrendered.
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The '''{{specs|name}}''' (Recon Machinegun-car AMR 35 ZT3) is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. Featuring a quick firing "stabilized" 25 mm gun, good mobility and bulletproof armour, it differs greatly from other rank 1 French tanks while offering similar gameplay to the Russian [[ASU-57]]. It is arguably the best first French tank to research.
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It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. Featuring a quick-firing "stabilized" 25 mm gun, good mobility and bulletproof armour, it differs greatly from other rank 1 French tanks while offering similar gameplay to the Soviet [[ASU-57]]. It is arguably the best first French tank to research. Due to its very poor all around protection the tank is not very survivable, and it's not armoured enough to withstand artillery barrages or heavy MG fire. However, with its 25 mm anti-tank gun, it can penetrate and destroy many other vehicles around its BR, specially if its good mobility is used in flanking manoeuvres.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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With only 13 mm all-around, this is not a frontline tank and it should fear artillery barrages, bombs and strafing aircraft. Distance is your main defense since most rank 1 guns are inaccurate, often missing such a small target. Any penetrating shot from another tank can easily disable this tank.
  
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'''Armour type:'''
  
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With only 13 mm all-around, this is not a frontline tank and it should fear artillery barrages. Bombs should be feared as well. Distance is your main defense since most rank 1 guns are inaccurate, often missing such a small target. Any penetrating shot from another tank can easily one-shot this tank.
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* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, superstructure)
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* Cast homogeneous armour (cupola)
  
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'''Armour type:'''
 
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* Rolled homogeneous armour
 
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* Cast homogeneous armour (Cupola)
 
 
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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| Hull || 5-6 mm (75°), 13 mm (18°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 13 mm (37°) ''Lower glacis'' || 13 mm || 10 mm (24-33°) ''Top'' <br> 10 mm (32°) ''Bottom'' || 6 mm <br> 5 mm ''Engine grille''
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| Hull || 6 mm (76°) ''Upper glacis'' <br> 13 mm (19°) ''Lower plate'' <br> 13 mm (35°) ''Lower glacis'' || 13 mm || 10 mm (23°) ''Top'' <br> 10 mm (34°) ''Radiator shaft'' <br> 10 mm (34°) ''Bottom'' || 6 mm (14°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 5 mm ''Vents''
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| Superstructure || 13 + 20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 13 mm (17°) ''Driver’s hatch'' || 13 mm (0-30°) || 10 mm || 6 mm <br> 5 mm ''Engine grille''
 
 
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! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
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| Superstructure || 13+20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 13 mm (19°) ''Upper plate'' || 13 mm (0-31°) || 10 mm || 6 mm (12°) ''Front'' <br> 6 mm ''Centre and rear'' <br> 5 mm ''Vents''
 
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| Cupola || 13 mm (11°) || 13 mm (14°) || 13 mm (4°) || 13 mm
 
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* Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
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* Suspension wheels and bogies are 20 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
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* An add-on suspension wheel (20 mm) covers the radiator shaft
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 116|rbMinHp= 73}}
  
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This light chassis can be carried wherever it is needed in no time. It is quite fast and manœuvrable but looses a good amount of speed when going off-road due to narrow tracks.  
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This light chassis can be carried wherever it is needed in no time. It is quite fast and manoeuvrable but loses a good amount of speed when going off-road due to narrow tracks.
  
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
 
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|rowspan="2" | 6.5 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 65 (AB)
 
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|60 (RB/SB)
 
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|73
 
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|82
 
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|17.85
 
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
 
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|11.23
 
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|12.61
 
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
 
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{{main|SA34 L/72 (25 mm)}}
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{{main|SA35 L/72 (25 mm)}}
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The 25 mm SA 34 L/72 cannon is a breath of fresh air among its likes: it has decent penetration values and a 3.9 s reload time. Its good ballistic properties (flat trajectory) makes it easy to aim at usual combat ranges (~500 m). This gun comes with an enjoyable feature: it has a LOCK, which is a primitive form of stabilizer. It enables this tank to reliably shoot on the move in middle to far range (100 to 500 m). Or else, one can stop and shoot faster than other rank 1 tanks. The MAC 31 is a decent coaxial MG.
 
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The main downside this gun platform has is its limited gun traverse, which makes close-range engagements very hard.
 
  
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! colspan="6" | [[SA34 L/72 (25 mm)|25 mm SA34 L/72]]
 
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| colspan="3" | 78 || -10°/+13° || ±5° || Vertical
 
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| ''Arcade'' || 17.61 || 24.38 || __.__ || __.__ || 34.82
 
 
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! colspan="5" | [[SA35 L/72 (25 mm)|25 mm SA35 L/72]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
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| rowspan="2" | 78 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+13° || rowspan="2" | ±5° || rowspan="2" | Shoulder || 17.6 || 24.4 || 29.6 || 32.7 || 34.8 || rowspan="2" | 3.90 || rowspan="2" | 3.45 || rowspan="2" | 3.18 || rowspan="2" | 3.00
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| 3.90 || __.__ || __.__ || 3.00
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| 11.9 || 14.0 || 17.0 || 18.8 || 20.0
 
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The 25 mm SA 34 L/72 cannon is a breath of fresh air among its likes: it has decent penetration values and a 3.9 s reload time. Its good ballistic properties (flat trajectory) makes it easy to aim at usual combat ranges (~500 m). This gun comes with an enjoyable feature: it has a LOCK, which is a primitive form of stabilizer. It enables this tank to reliably shoot on the move in middle to far range (100 to 500 m). Or else, one can stop and shoot faster than other rank 1 tanks. The MAC 31 is a decent coaxial MG. The main downside this gun platform has is its limited gun traverse, which makes close-range engagements very hard.
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==== Ammunition ====
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|| '''78''' || 55&nbsp;''(+23)'' || 31&nbsp;''(+47)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+77)'' || Yes
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| Mle1934 TP (Ch.F) || APC || 950 || 0.31 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
 
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=== Machine guns ===
 
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{{main|MAC 31 (7.5 mm)}}
 
{{main|MAC 31 (7.5 mm)}}
  
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! colspan="5" | [[MAC 31 (7.5 mm)|7.5 mm MAC 31]]
 
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| colspan="4" | 3,200 (150) || 1,350 || N/A || N/A
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| Coaxial || 3,300 (150) || 551 || N/A || N/A
 
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The small calibre of the MAC 31 machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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This is a good introduction to a typical tank destroyer's gameplay: a good gun on a fragile chassis and even more. With its low silhouette, the AMR can completely hide itself behind a wide variety of terrain features: wrecked tanks hulls, shallow hills, rocks, brick walls... Staying away from the fight and sniping for unsuspecting enemies. When spotted, choosing to reverse back into cover is a good decision.
 
This is a good introduction to a typical tank destroyer's gameplay: a good gun on a fragile chassis and even more. With its low silhouette, the AMR can completely hide itself behind a wide variety of terrain features: wrecked tanks hulls, shallow hills, rocks, brick walls... Staying away from the fight and sniping for unsuspecting enemies. When spotted, choosing to reverse back into cover is a good decision.
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Hiding behind terrain and obstacles, using its good gun depression while staying at some distance from the target is the best way to use this TD in most situations. Applies well on any non-urban terrain.
 
Hiding behind terrain and obstacles, using its good gun depression while staying at some distance from the target is the best way to use this TD in most situations. Applies well on any non-urban terrain.
  
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'''Ninja:'''
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'''Sneaking TD'''
  
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This is a ''very situational'' way to play the AMR, mostly efficient in RB and SB games but still applicable to AB matches. This tactics relies on this tank's low silhouette: it can easily hide behind almost anything. Use this tactic to sneak onto an enemy's back or to lure the enemy team into a trap (needs a complying ally). Being a ''ninja AMR'' applies well to urban combat.
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This is a very situational way to play the AMR, mostly efficient in RB and SB games but still applicable to AB matches. This tactics relies on this tank's low silhouette: it can easily hide behind almost anything. Use this tactic to sneak onto an enemy's back or to lure the enemy team into a trap (needs a complying ally). Being a ninja AMR applies well to urban combat.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* The AMR.35 ZT3 is fast for French tanks of its rank.
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* The 25 mm gun, though small, hits hard and the standard round has good post-penetration effects.
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* Fast compared to French low-tier vehicles
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* Gun is quite stable on the move
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* The 25 mm gun, though small, has a high penetration power and is stable on the move
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* Decent -10° of gun depression.
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* Small calibre rounds can penetrate narrow spots unreachable for bigger calibres
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* Almost safe from strafing fighter planes.
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* The APC round has good post-penetration damage
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* -10° of gun depression angle
 
* Competitive reload time
 
* Competitive reload time
 
* Low silhouette
 
* Low silhouette
 
* Crew are not lined-up from the front
 
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* MAC 31 coaxial MG
 
 
* Asymmetric gun position allow for original gameplay
 
* Asymmetric gun position allow for original gameplay
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* Good gun ballistics
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* Side armour is actually thicker than frontal armour
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'''Cons:'''
 
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* Two crew means that '''any''' hit to the crew compartment could send you back to the hangar.
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* Gun traverse is fairly limited, even by casemate TD standards.
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* Two-men crew means that any knocked crew member ends up either as immobilization or back to the garage
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* Anything bigger than MG fire will shred this TD
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* Gun traverse is fairly limited, even for a TD casemate design
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* Anything punching harder than a MG will shred this vehicle
 
* Narrow tracks offer poor off-road mobility
 
* Narrow tracks offer poor off-road mobility
 
* Big cupola makes a good target
 
* Big cupola makes a good target
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* Limited ammo choice
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* Side armour is actually thicker than frontal armour
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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The Automitrailleuse de Reconnaissance (AMR) 35 was an improvement over the previous AMR.33 machine-gun armed light tank, which had suffered from poor tracks and suspension. Despite being larger and heavier, its bigger engine and improved suspension made it faster and more manoeuvrable than its predecessor. 167 of these light tanks, many armed with 13.2 mm machine guns in a standard turret, were in service during the Battle for France in 1940. A subvariant, the ZT3, was planned to carry the French standard anti-tank gun, the 25 mm, to serve alongside the machine-gun armed AMR.35s in the French light motorized units. A total of ten ZT3 are believed to have been produced and issued prior to the fall of France.
  
 
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{{Youtube-gallery|nVCobV8eS5A|'''AMR.35 ZT3, French, Tier-1, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
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Latest revision as of 13:30, 26 February 2024

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AMR.35 ZT3
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AMR.35 ZT3
France flag.png France
I Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
1.0 1.0 1.0
Class:
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Purchase:700 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

The Automitrailleuse de Reconnaissance AMR 35 ZT3 was an upgraded version of the AMR.33 light tank, addressing issues with tracks and suspension. Despite being larger and heavier, it was faster and more manoeuvrable thanks to a bigger engine and improved suspension. During the Battle for France in 1940, 167 of these tanks were in service, many equipped with 13.2 mm machine guns. A subvariant called ZT3 was planned to carry a 25 mm anti-tank gun, but only ten were produced and issued before France surrendered.

It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". Featuring a quick-firing "stabilized" 25 mm gun, good mobility and bulletproof armour, it differs greatly from other rank 1 French tanks while offering similar gameplay to the Soviet ASU-57. It is arguably the best first French tank to research. Due to its very poor all around protection the tank is not very survivable, and it's not armoured enough to withstand artillery barrages or heavy MG fire. However, with its 25 mm anti-tank gun, it can penetrate and destroy many other vehicles around its BR, specially if its good mobility is used in flanking manoeuvres.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull13 / 13 / 10
Turret13 / 13 / 10
Crew2 people
Visibility65 %

With only 13 mm all-around, this is not a frontline tank and it should fear artillery barrages, bombs and strafing aircraft. Distance is your main defense since most rank 1 guns are inaccurate, often missing such a small target. Any penetrating shot from another tank can easily disable this tank.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, superstructure)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (cupola)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 6 mm (76°) Upper glacis
13 mm (19°) Lower plate
13 mm (35°) Lower glacis 		13 mm 10 mm (23°) Top
10 mm (34°) Radiator shaft
10 mm (34°) Bottom 		6 mm (14°) Front glacis
5 mm Vents
Superstructure 13+20 mm Gun mantlet
13 mm (19°) Upper plate 		13 mm (0-31°) 10 mm 6 mm (12°) Front
6 mm Centre and rear
5 mm Vents
Cupola 13 mm (11°) 13 mm (14°) 13 mm (4°) 13 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and bogies are 20 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
  • An add-on suspension wheel (20 mm) covers the radiator shaft

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB65 / 8 km/h
RB and SB60 / 7 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
1 back
Weight6.5 t
Engine power
AB156 hp
RB and SB82 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB24.0 hp/t
RB and SB12.6 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 65 8 6.5 116 156 17.85 24
Realistic 60 7 73 82 11.23 12.62

This light chassis can be carried wherever it is needed in no time. It is quite fast and manoeuvrable but loses a good amount of speed when going off-road due to narrow tracks.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB90 → 111 Sl icon.png
RB112 → 138 Sl icon.png
SB126 → 155 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications2 970 Rp icon.png
895 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost190 Ge icon.png
Crew training200 Sl icon.png
Experts1 000 Sl icon.png
Aces20 Ge icon.png
Research Aces96 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
10 / 20 / 20 % Sl icon.png
100 / 100 / 100 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
45 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
165 Rp icon.png
Cost:
50 Sl icon.png
40 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
165 Rp icon.png
Cost:
50 Sl icon.png
40 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
75 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
145 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
145 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
45 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
165 Rp icon.png
Cost:
50 Sl icon.png
40 Ge icon.png
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Crew Replenishment
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
75 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
45 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
165 Rp icon.png
Cost:
50 Sl icon.png
40 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
75 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

25 mm SA35 L/72 cannon
Shoulder stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in one plane while moving
Ammunition78 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
3.9 → 3.0 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 13°
Horizontal guidance-5° / 5°
Main article: SA35 L/72 (25 mm)
25 mm SA35 L/72 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 78 -10°/+13° ±5° Shoulder 17.6 24.4 29.6 32.7 34.8 3.90 3.45 3.18 3.00
Realistic 11.9 14.0 17.0 18.8 20.0

The 25 mm SA 34 L/72 cannon is a breath of fresh air among its likes: it has decent penetration values and a 3.9 s reload time. Its good ballistic properties (flat trajectory) makes it easy to aim at usual combat ranges (~500 m). This gun comes with an enjoyable feature: it has a LOCK, which is a primitive form of stabilizer. It enables this tank to reliably shoot on the move in middle to far range (100 to 500 m). Or else, one can stop and shoot faster than other rank 1 tanks. The MAC 31 is a decent coaxial MG. The main downside this gun platform has is its limited gun traverse, which makes close-range engagements very hard.

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Mle1934 TP (Ch.F) APC 71 68 56 44 34 27
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Mle1934 TP (Ch.F) APC 950 0.31 - - - 48° 63° 71°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AMR.35 ZT3
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
78 55 (+23) 31 (+47) 1 (+77) Yes

Notes:

  • As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire both shells in the set.
  • The visual discrepancy concerns the total number of shells as well as the number of shells per rack:
    • 72 shells are modeled but you can pack 78 shells.
    • Rack 3 is modeled as 24 shells but contains 30 shells.

Machine guns

7.5 mm MAC 31 machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition3 300 rounds
Belt capacity150 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
6.5 → 5.0 s
Fire rate551 shots/min
Main article: MAC 31 (7.5 mm)
7.5 mm MAC 31
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 3,300 (150) 551 N/A N/A

The small calibre of the MAC 31 machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.

Usage in battles

This is a good introduction to a typical tank destroyer's gameplay: a good gun on a fragile chassis and even more. With its low silhouette, the AMR can completely hide itself behind a wide variety of terrain features: wrecked tanks hulls, shallow hills, rocks, brick walls... Staying away from the fight and sniping for unsuspecting enemies. When spotted, choosing to reverse back into cover is a good decision.

Classical TD:

Hiding behind terrain and obstacles, using its good gun depression while staying at some distance from the target is the best way to use this TD in most situations. Applies well on any non-urban terrain.

Sneaking TD

This is a very situational way to play the AMR, mostly efficient in RB and SB games but still applicable to AB matches. This tactics relies on this tank's low silhouette: it can easily hide behind almost anything. Use this tactic to sneak onto an enemy's back or to lure the enemy team into a trap (needs a complying ally). Being a ninja AMR applies well to urban combat.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Fast compared to French low-tier vehicles
  • The 25 mm gun, though small, has a high penetration power and is stable on the move
  • Small calibre rounds can penetrate narrow spots unreachable for bigger calibres
  • The APC round has good post-penetration damage
  • -10° of gun depression angle
  • Competitive reload time
  • Low silhouette
  • Crew are not lined-up from the front
  • Asymmetric gun position allow for original gameplay
  • Side armour is actually thicker than frontal armour

Cons:

  • Two-men crew means that any knocked crew member ends up either as immobilization or back to the garage
  • Gun traverse is fairly limited, even for a TD casemate design
  • Anything punching harder than a MG will shred this vehicle
  • Narrow tracks offer poor off-road mobility
  • Big cupola makes a good target
  • Limited ammo choice

History

The Automitrailleuse de Reconnaissance (AMR) 35 was an improvement over the previous AMR.33 machine-gun armed light tank, which had suffered from poor tracks and suspension. Despite being larger and heavier, its bigger engine and improved suspension made it faster and more manoeuvrable than its predecessor. 167 of these light tanks, many armed with 13.2 mm machine guns in a standard turret, were in service during the Battle for France in 1940. A subvariant, the ZT3, was planned to carry the French standard anti-tank gun, the 25 mm, to serve alongside the machine-gun armed AMR.35s in the French light motorized units. A total of ten ZT3 are believed to have been produced and issued prior to the fall of France.

Media

Skins
Videos
AMR.35 ZT3, French, Tier-1, Tank Destroyer - Angry Nerd Gaming

See also

Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


Renault
Tanks 
Light tanks  AMC.34 YR · AMC.35 (ACG.1) · R.35 (SA38)
Medium tanks  D2
Tank destroyers  AMR.35 ZT3

France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives  CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM  MEPHISTO · AMX-10M
Other  AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA  ▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2

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