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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (or just '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy tank {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. Increasing Tiger II's main cannon to a whopping [[KwK L/68 (105 mm)|10.5 cm cannon]], the Tiger II boasts a much more powerful armament than any of the preceding Tiger II tanks.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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'''Armour type:'''
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*Rolled homogeneous armour
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*Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola)
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{| class="wikitable"
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|-
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides (Slope angle) !! Rear (Slope angle) !! Roof
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|-
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| Hull || 150 mm (50-51°) ''Front glacis'' <br/> 100 mm (50°) ''Lower glacis''|| 80 mm (27°) ''Top'' <br> 80 + 5 mm ''Bottom''|| 80 mm (28°) || 40 mm
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|-
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| Turret || 185 mm (8°) ''Turret front'' <br> 200 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 80 mm (19-21°) || 80 mm (20°) || 40 mm
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|-
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! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
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|-
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| Cupola || 150 mm || 150 mm
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|-
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|}
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'''Notes:'''
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* Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.
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* Some part of the turret side have track links on them, which gives an additional 30 mm of protection to the armor.
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* The weak spot is the front of the turret (185 mm), but it is small and very difficult to hit at mid-long ranges, where it is also harder to penetrate.
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* Machine gun port could be marked as close-range weak spot. Although most of it is still 150 mm thick, the angling is much worse.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
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|-
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! Weight (tons)
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! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor<br>weight (tons)
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! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
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|-
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| rowspan="2" | 70.5 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 44 (AB)
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|-
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|42 (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
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|-
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! colspan="1" | Mode
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!Stock
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!Upgraded
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|-
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|''Arcade''
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|1,162
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|1,431
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|-
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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|796
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|900
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
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|-
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! colspan="1" | Mode
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!Stock
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!Upgraded
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|-
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|''Arcade''
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|16.48
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|20.29
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|-
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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|11.29
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|12.77
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|-
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|}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|KwK 43 (88 mm)}}
  
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=== Additional armament ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="6" | [[KwK 43 (88 mm)|88 mm KwK 43]]
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|-
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
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|-
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| colspan="3" | 54 || -8°/+15° || ±180° || N/A
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|-
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
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|-
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
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! style="width:4em" |Stock
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! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
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|-
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| ''Arcade'' || 14.97 || 20.72 || __.__ || __.__ || 29.60
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|-
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| ''Realistic'' || 11.01 || 12.95 || __.__ || __.__ || 18.50
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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|-
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
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|-
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| 20.02 || __.__ || __.__ || 15.40
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|-
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|}
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===== Ammunition =====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
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|-
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! 10m
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! 100m
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! 500m
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! 1000m
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! 1500m
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! 2000m
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|-
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| PzGr || APHE || 213 || 210 || 190 || 166 || 146 || 127
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|-
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| PzGr 39 || APCBC || 247 || 244 || 233 || 217 || 204 || 193
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|-
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| PzGr 40 || APCR || 276 || 272 || 247 || 220 || 207 || 170
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|-
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| Sprgr || HE || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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''in m:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
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''in mm:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
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! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
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|-
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! 0%
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! 50%
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! 100%
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|-
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| PzGr || APHE || 900 || 14 || 0.8 || 28 || 343.2 || +4° || 47° || 60° || 65°
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|-
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| PzGr 39 || APCBC || 1,005 || 16 || 0.8 || 28 || 343.2 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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|-
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| PzGr 40 || APCR || 1,150 || 10 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 66° || 70° || 72°
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|-
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| Sprgr || HE || 900 || 15 || 0.4 || 0.5 || 1,550 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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|-
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|}
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===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Tiger 105.]]
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo<br/>Part
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
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|-
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|| '''54''' || style="text-align:right" | ''Projectiles''<br />''Propellants'' || 43&nbsp;''(+11)''<br />45&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 27&nbsp;''(+27)''<br />37&nbsp;''(+17)'' || 15&nbsp;''(+39)''<br />19&nbsp;''(+35)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+53)''<br />9&nbsp;''(+44)'' || &nbsp;<br />1&nbsp;''(+53)'' || style="text-align:left" | no  
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|-
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|}
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Right side empty: 27&nbsp;''(+27)''
  
 
=== Machine guns ===
 
=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|MG 34 (7.92 mm)}}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="7" | [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG 34]]
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|-
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! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
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|-
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! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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|-
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| colspan="4" | 5,850 (150) || 900 || N/A || N/A
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|-
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|}
  
 
== Usage in the battles ==
 
== Usage in the battles ==
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This tank's best and almost only possible role so far is a sniper/support tank. Stay at distance, or your reload time and mobility will be the death of you.
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Use your mobility to reach sniping zones and wait for enemy tanks to show up. Keep your distance to maximize the effectiveness of your armor and use cover to reload without having to worry about being destroyed. Avoid close combat as much as possible since most of the other tanks at your battle rate can penetrate your armor very easily and your reload rate is 20 secs so if your shot doesn't penetrate you will be easily killed
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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*Like with most German guns, the main gun is very accurate.
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*With the high muzzle velocity, high armor penetration value, and high damage of the PzGr 39 shell, there's really no need to every load any other shell.
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*With the explosive mass of both the standard PzGr and PzGr 39 shells being equivalent to 343 grams of TNT, penetrating shells are devastating. They deal arguably more damage than any of the Russian 122mm shells do. Expect a lot of one shots.
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*With the upgraded engine, transmission, and filters, the 10.5 Tiger II has nearly 300 more horsepower than a fully upgraded Tiger II H. This will make the 10.5 accelerate quicker and climb hills faster than any of the other Tiger II's. Including the Tiger II Sla.
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*With the upgraded turret, the 10.5's turret traverse will be 20.5 degrees per second. This will help you defend against enemy medium or light tanks trying to execute a flanking maneuver.
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*Upper front plate still borderlines on impenetrable. You'll only have to really worry about APDS and HEAT going through it.
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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*
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*With the same lightly armored turret as the Tiger II H, expect nearly every enemy tank facing you to aim right for it.
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*Unlike every other Tiger II, the 10.5 will always have ammunition in the turret. Shots that penetrate through the back of the turret will likely result with your ammunition exploding.
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*Lower glacis plate is a large target thats easily penetrated.
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*Even with an ACE crew, the main guns takes more than 15 seconds to reload. So close range brawls are not advised. 
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*Despite being quick and maneuverable for a heavy tank, it's still not a medium tank. So don't expect to out maneuver any medium you're likely to face.
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*Stock PzGr round has much lower penetration and normalization values than PzGr 39 shell. In fact, the KWK43 88mm gun on all of the other Tiger II's have better penetration at all ranges with stock PzGr 39/43 shell.
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*Gun is easily disabled, rendering the tank helpless.
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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===Tiger II===
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The ''[[Tiger II (H)|Tiger II]]'' with its 8.8 cm KwK 43 cannon was one of the most formidable tank in World War II. Its 150 mm thick front armor plate sloped was never penetrated by an Allied tank throughout the war and its cannon could destroy any Allied tank fielded in the war. However, some German higher-ups believe that the armament on the Tiger II was just not enough, something more was needed.
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===Concept===
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Ideas of rearming the Tiger II was brought up by Krupp in sometime in late 1944. The concept drawing Krupp made was for the Tiger II to be rearmed with a 10.5 cm KwK L/68 cannon. This design would require new mountings and new mechanical parts to be optimized for the larger 10.5 cm gun. While the idea was indeed a very interesting one to up gun the Tiger II, it was never implemented because of its draw backs. The 10.5 gun uses a two-piece ammunition, which requires the presence of another loader. This is impossible because the turret is already cramped as is with three people inside, and the addition of another will make the interior a very miserable place to be in. Plus, the fact the gun's ammunition is two-piece already means that the drawback behind this upgrade is a much slower fire rate. This causes the concept to be rejected by German high command, and if it wasn't, it certainly ended with Germany's surrender in May 1945.
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No prototypes were made and its existence is only proven by a concept drawing.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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===Live.Warthunder
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?q=#tigerii_kwk105 Camouflages and skins for the "Tiger II KwK 105" can be found on live.warthunder.com]
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/post/675135/en/ RideR2's Realistic gunsight (TZF4a, TZF 5a/b/d/e/f/f2, TZF 9b/b1/c/d, TZF 12/a) for Pzkpfw II, Pzkpfw III, Pzkpfw IV, Pzkpfw V, Pzkpfw VI]
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===Images===
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[[File:Tiger II 105 Concept.jpg|x300px|framed|none|The Tiger II 10.5 cm Concept art from Krupp.]]
  
 
== Read also ==
 
== Read also ==
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
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{{Germany heavy tanks}}

Revision as of 16:44, 12 February 2019

Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)
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Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)
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IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
7.0 7.0 7.0
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Description

GarageImage Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K).jpg


The Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. B mit 10.5cm KwK L/68 (or just Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)) is a Rank IV German heavy tank with a battle rating of 7.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. Increasing Tiger II's main cannon to a whopping 10.5 cm cannon, the Tiger II boasts a much more powerful armament than any of the preceding Tiger II tanks.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides (Slope angle) Rear (Slope angle) Roof
Hull 150 mm (50-51°) Front glacis
100 mm (50°) Lower glacis		 80 mm (27°) Top
80 + 5 mm Bottom		 80 mm (28°) 40 mm
Turret 185 mm (8°) Turret front
200 mm Gun mantlet 		80 mm (19-21°) 80 mm (20°) 40 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 150 mm 150 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.
  • Some part of the turret side have track links on them, which gives an additional 30 mm of protection to the armor.
  • The weak spot is the front of the turret (185 mm), but it is small and very difficult to hit at mid-long ranges, where it is also harder to penetrate.
  • Machine gun port could be marked as close-range weak spot. Although most of it is still 150 mm thick, the angling is much worse.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armor
weight (tons) 		Max speed (km/h)
70.5 N/A 44 (AB)
42 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 1,162 1,431
Realistic/Simulator 796 900
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 16.48 20.29
Realistic/Simulator 11.29 12.77

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: KwK 43 (88 mm)
88 mm KwK 43
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
54 -8°/+15° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 14.97 20.72 __.__ __.__ 29.60
Realistic 11.01 12.95 __.__ __.__ 18.50
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
20.02 __.__ __.__ 15.40
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
PzGr APHE 213 210 190 166 146 127
PzGr 39 APCBC 247 244 233 217 204 193
PzGr 40 APCR 276 272 247 220 207 170
Sprgr HE 20 20 20 20 20 20
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent): 		Normalization At 30°
from horizontal: 		Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
PzGr APHE 900 14 0.8 28 343.2 +4° 47° 60° 65°
PzGr 39 APCBC 1,005 16 0.8 28 343.2 +4° 48° 63° 71°
PzGr 40 APCR 1,150 10 N/A N/A N/A +1.5° 66° 70° 72°
Sprgr HE 900 15 0.4 0.5 1,550 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the Tiger 105.
Full
ammo 		Ammo
Part 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
54 Projectiles
Propellants 		43 (+11)
45 (+9) 		27 (+27)
37 (+17) 		15 (+39)
19 (+35) 		1 (+53)
9 (+44) 		 
1 (+53) 		no

Right side empty: 27 (+27)

Machine guns

Main article: MG 34 (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm MG 34
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
5,850 (150) 900 N/A N/A

Usage in the battles

This tank's best and almost only possible role so far is a sniper/support tank. Stay at distance, or your reload time and mobility will be the death of you.

Use your mobility to reach sniping zones and wait for enemy tanks to show up. Keep your distance to maximize the effectiveness of your armor and use cover to reload without having to worry about being destroyed. Avoid close combat as much as possible since most of the other tanks at your battle rate can penetrate your armor very easily and your reload rate is 20 secs so if your shot doesn't penetrate you will be easily killed

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Like with most German guns, the main gun is very accurate.
  • With the high muzzle velocity, high armor penetration value, and high damage of the PzGr 39 shell, there's really no need to every load any other shell.
  • With the explosive mass of both the standard PzGr and PzGr 39 shells being equivalent to 343 grams of TNT, penetrating shells are devastating. They deal arguably more damage than any of the Russian 122mm shells do. Expect a lot of one shots.
  • With the upgraded engine, transmission, and filters, the 10.5 Tiger II has nearly 300 more horsepower than a fully upgraded Tiger II H. This will make the 10.5 accelerate quicker and climb hills faster than any of the other Tiger II's. Including the Tiger II Sla.
  • With the upgraded turret, the 10.5's turret traverse will be 20.5 degrees per second. This will help you defend against enemy medium or light tanks trying to execute a flanking maneuver.
  • Upper front plate still borderlines on impenetrable. You'll only have to really worry about APDS and HEAT going through it.

Cons:

  • With the same lightly armored turret as the Tiger II H, expect nearly every enemy tank facing you to aim right for it.
  • Unlike every other Tiger II, the 10.5 will always have ammunition in the turret. Shots that penetrate through the back of the turret will likely result with your ammunition exploding.
  • Lower glacis plate is a large target thats easily penetrated.
  • Even with an ACE crew, the main guns takes more than 15 seconds to reload. So close range brawls are not advised.
  • Despite being quick and maneuverable for a heavy tank, it's still not a medium tank. So don't expect to out maneuver any medium you're likely to face.
  • Stock PzGr round has much lower penetration and normalization values than PzGr 39 shell. In fact, the KWK43 88mm gun on all of the other Tiger II's have better penetration at all ranges with stock PzGr 39/43 shell.
  • Gun is easily disabled, rendering the tank helpless.

History

Tiger II

The Tiger II with its 8.8 cm KwK 43 cannon was one of the most formidable tank in World War II. Its 150 mm thick front armor plate sloped was never penetrated by an Allied tank throughout the war and its cannon could destroy any Allied tank fielded in the war. However, some German higher-ups believe that the armament on the Tiger II was just not enough, something more was needed.

Concept

Ideas of rearming the Tiger II was brought up by Krupp in sometime in late 1944. The concept drawing Krupp made was for the Tiger II to be rearmed with a 10.5 cm KwK L/68 cannon. This design would require new mountings and new mechanical parts to be optimized for the larger 10.5 cm gun. While the idea was indeed a very interesting one to up gun the Tiger II, it was never implemented because of its draw backs. The 10.5 gun uses a two-piece ammunition, which requires the presence of another loader. This is impossible because the turret is already cramped as is with three people inside, and the addition of another will make the interior a very miserable place to be in. Plus, the fact the gun's ammunition is two-piece already means that the drawback behind this upgrade is a much slower fire rate. This causes the concept to be rejected by German high command, and if it wasn't, it certainly ended with Germany's surrender in May 1945.

No prototypes were made and its existence is only proven by a concept drawing.

Media

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Images

The Tiger II 10.5 cm Concept art from Krupp.

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Germany heavy tanks
Tiger 1 (Henschel)  Tiger H1 · Tiger E · ␠Tiger
Tiger 1 (Porsche)  VK 45.01 (P) · Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P
Tiger 2  Tiger II (P) · Tiger II (H) · Tiger II (H) Sla.16 · Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)
Super heavy tanks  Maus · E-100
Trophies 
Great Britain  ▀Pz.Kpfw. Churchill
USSR  ▀KV-IB · ▀KW I C 756 (r) · ▀KW II 754 (r)

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