Su-17M4

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This page is about the Soviet strike aircraft Su-17M4. For other versions, see Su-17/22 (Family).
Su-17M4
su_17m4.png
GarageImage Su-17M4.jpg
Su-17M4
AB RB SB
11.7 11.3 11.0
Research:300 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:830 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

The Su-17M4 is a rank VII Soviet strike aircraft with a battle rating of 11.7 (AB), 11.3 (RB), and 11.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Danger Zone".

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 11 000 m2 052 km/h
Turn time27 s
Max altitude19 500 m
EngineSaturn AL-21F-3
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight19 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 11,000 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,028 2,011 19500 27.3 27.5 167.9 161.2 850
Upgraded ___ ___ __._ __._ __._ __._

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X
Limits Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
Min sweep 1,050 630 N/A 476 473 ~10 ~3
Max sweep 1,417 N/A N/A N/A ~11 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 740 < 650 < 650 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Saturn AL-21F-3 1 11,245 kg 391 - 436 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Gross
Weight
Weight (each) Type 12m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 40m fuel
1,800 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 12,385 kg 13,103 kg 14,031 kg 15,045 kg 19,367 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 12m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 40m fuel MGW
Stationary 6,400 kgf 9,039 kgf 0.73 0.69 0.64 0.60 0.47
Optimal 7,232 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
13,188 kgf
(1,417 km/h)
1.06 1.01 0.94 0.88 0.68

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff
Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear630 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 925 → 4 285 Sl icon.png
RB7 922 → 11 605 Sl icon.png
SB10 043 → 14 712 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications262 300 Rp icon.png
409 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 900 Ge icon.png
Crew training240 000 Sl icon.png
Experts830 000 Sl icon.png
Aces3 000 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 140 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
80 / 320 / 600 % Sl icon.png
238 / 238 / 238 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
490 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
620 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
490 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
620 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
NR_30_belt_pack
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
ZB-500
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
S-8KO
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods heli false thermal targets.png
Flares/Chaff
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods weapon.png
NR_30_new_gun
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FAB-250
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
S-24
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods agm missile.png
Kh-25
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
R-60M
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods gunpods.png
Gun pod SPPU-22-01
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
490 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FAB-500
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
490 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
S-25
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
490 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Kh-29L
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
490 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods ammo.png
ns23_belt_pack
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
620 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket large.png
B-13L
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
620 Ge icon.png
Kh-29T
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
620 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
620 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs)
Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png

Offensive armament

Main article: NR-30 (30 mm)

The Su-17M4 is armed with:

  • A choice between two presets:
    • 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons, wing-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)
    • 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons + 12 x large calibre countermeasures + 256 x countermeasures

Suspended armament

Main articles: Kh-23M, Kh-25ML, Kh-29L, Kh-29T, S-25L
Main articles: S-3K, S-5K, S-8KO, S-13OF, S-24B
Main articles: R-60M, S-25O, GSh-23L (23 mm)

The Su-17M4 can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

  • Without load
  • 2 x R-60M missiles
  • 6 x R-60M missiles
  • 28 x S-3K rockets
  • 128 x S-5K rockets
  • 6 x S-24B rockets
  • 80 x S-8KO rockets
  • 20 x S-13OF rockets
  • 2 x S-25O rockets
  • 20 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (2,000 kg total)
  • 10 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,500 kg total)
  • 8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
  • 4 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
  • 2 x S-25L missiles
  • 2 x Kh-23M missiles
  • 4 x Kh-25ML missiles
  • 2 x Kh-29L missiles
  • 2 x Kh-29T missiles
  • 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)

Custom loadout options

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Hardpoints Su-17M4.png
23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg) 1 1 1 1
100 kg OFAB-100 bombs 5 1 4 4 1 5
250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs 1 1 3 3 1 1
500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs 1 1 2 2 1 1
ZB-500 incendiary bombs 1 1 1 1
S-3K rockets 7 7 7 7
S-5K rockets 32 32 32 32
S-8KO rockets 20 20 20 20
S-13OF rockets 5 5 5 5
S-24B rockets 1 1 1 1 1 1
S-25O rockets 1 1
Kh-23M missiles 1 1
Kh-25ML missiles 1* 1* 1* 1*
Kh-29L missiles 1* 1*
Kh-29T missiles 1* 1*
R-60M missiles 1 2 2 1
S-25L missiles 1* 1*
Delta-NG 1
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 700 kg
* Kh-29T missiles cannot be mixed with the marked options
It is required to equip the Delta-NG targeting pod with the Kh-23M missiles

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Radars

SRD-5 - Rangefinding radar
Maximum
Tracking
Range
Minimum
Tracking
Range
Azimuth Tracking
Angle
Elevation Tracking
Angle
3,000 m 300 m ±9° ±9°

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".

Pros:

Cons:

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


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