Mirage 5F

This page is about the French jet fighter Mirage 5F. For other versions, see Mirage 5 (Family).

Mirage 5F

▄F-100D

Mirage F1CT

Mirage 5F

▄F-100D

Mirage F1CT

France

VII Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
10.3	10.0	10.0

Class:

Fighter

Jet fighter

Research:260 000

Purchase:710 000

Description

The Mirage III was a true workhorse of the Israeli Air Force with considerably successful combat records, however, it still left much to be desired by the IAF. As a result, the IAF reached out to Dassault to request a new "refined" version of the Mirage III specifically for Middle Eastern combat, with the result of this program called the "Mirage 5". The Israelis suggested that radar and most of the related sensors and avionics from the standard Mirage IIIE should be removed to reduce cost, weight, and maintenance; and replacing them with more fuel storage for prolonged attack missions, since the radar and related sensors were deemed "unnecessary" in the clear and sunny skies of the Middle East. In September 1966, the Israelis placed an order for 50 of the new Mirage 5, but due to French President De Gaulle's arms embargo against israel shortly after in 1967, none of the Mirage 5s were delivered to Israel. In late 1969, the Israelis, who had pilots in France testing the aircraft, requested that the aircraft be transferred to Corsica, in theory to allow them to continue flight training in warm conditions during the French winter. The French government rejected the request when the Israelis also tried to obtain long-range fuel tanks, which seemed highly suspiscious to the French officials as Corsica was not far enough from the French mainland to warrant long-range fuel tanks. The Israelis finally gave up trying to acquire the aircraft after that and accepted a refund, but unbeknownst to the French, the Israelis had only accepted the refund because their espionage assets had successfuly stolen the Mirage 5's blueprints from Dassault, resulting in the indigenously built Nesher copy instead.

Introduced in Update "Winged Lions", the Mirage 5F is completely identical to the Nesher, minus its air-to-air missile loadout, with the French version equipping AIM-9Bs and the indigenous R.550 Magic 1 missile instead of the Israeli Shafrir 2 missile. The aircraft lacks radar and can only equip two on-par close range air-to-air missiles. The Mirage 5 is best equipped for frontline bomber roles, however it still struggles in this role due to the lack of countermeasures. The Mirage is best played defensively at all times, maintaining a distance from enemies (especially those with all aspect missiles) to bomb bases and pounce on unsuspecting targets using its great speed and short-tem dogfight performance.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Drogue parachute

Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway

Max speed

at 12 000 m2 160 km/h

Turn time28 s

Max altitude16 000 m

EngineSNECMA Atar 9C

Type

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight11 t

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 12,000 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
	AB	RB		AB	RB	AB	RB
Stock	2,090	2,053	16000	29.9	30.6	109.7	99.7	750
Upgraded	2,233	2,160		26.3	28.0	172.5	140.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear	Drogue chute
X	X	X	✓	X	✓

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
		Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
1,460	426	N/A	N/A	N/A	~10	~4

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 920	< 750	< 650	N/A

Engine performance

Engine			Aircraft mass
Engine name		Number	Basic mass		Wing loading (full fuel)
SNECMA Atar 9C		1	7,250 kg		300 kg/m2
Engine characteristics			Mass with fuel (no weapons load)				Max Takeoff Weight
Weight (each)	Type		10m fuel	20m fuel	30m fuel	34m fuel
1,450 kg	Afterburning axial-flow turbojet		7,934 kg	8,577 kg	9,241 kg	9,531 kg	_,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)			Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition	100%	WEP	10m fuel	20m fuel	30m fuel	34m fuel	MTOW
Stationary	4,210 kgf	6,110 kgf	0.77	0.71	0.66	0.64	_.__
Optimal	5,389 kgf (1,200 km/h)	8,594 kgf (1,200 km/h)	1.08	1.00	0.93	0.90	_.__

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear426 km/h

The Mirage 5F has no armour and can be critically damaged with just one short burst of enemy fire. Even if the Mirage survives, it will be highly damaged and some major components like the elevator or aileron controls will likely be destroyed. The Mirage has self-sealing fuel tanks located in the rear, front part of the wings, and the forward fuselage.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB3 089 → 4 154

RB11 211 → 15 078

SB10 362 → 13 936

Total cost of modifications224 000

348 000

Talisman cost2 800

Crew training200 000

Experts710 000

Aces2 800

Research Aces1 080 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

120 / 380 / 600 %

232 / 232 / 232 %

Modifications

Flight performance	Survivability	Weaponry
Compressor Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 350 New boosters Research: 13 000 Cost: 20 000 410 Wings repair Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 440 Engine Research: 18 000 Cost: 28 000 570	Fuselage repair Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 350 Airframe Research: 13 000 Cost: 20 000 410 G-suit Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 440 Cover Research: 18 000 Cost: 28 000 570	LAU-32 Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 350 Type 25C Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 350 aden_belt_pack Research: 13 000 Cost: 20 000 410 Type 21B Research: 13 000 Cost: 20 000 410 Matra JL-100R Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 440 Matra JL-100 36 Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 440 aden_new_gun Research: 18 000 Cost: 28 000 570 Nord AS.30 Research: 18 000 Cost: 28 000 570

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns)	CCIP (Rockets)	CCIP (Bombs)	CCRP (Bombs)

Offensive armament

The Mirage 5F is armed with:

• 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (140 rpg = 280 total)

Suspended armament

The Mirage 5F can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
250 lb SAMP Mk 81 bombs	1						1
250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs		4	1	2	1	4
250 kg SAMP Type 25 200 bombs			1	2	1
400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs		2	1	2	1	2
400 kg SAMP Type 21 200 bombs			1	2	1
FZ49 rockets	7						7
SNEB type 23 rockets		18, 36				18, 36
AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles	1						1
AS-30 Nord missiles				1
Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles	1						1
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 1,500 kg

Default weapon presets

Without load 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles 1 x AS-30 Nord missile 2 x 250 lb SAMP Mk 81 bombs (500 lb total) 12 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (3,000 kg total) 4 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 200 bombs (1,000 kg total) 8 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (3,200 kg total) 4 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 200 bombs (1,600 kg total) 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets 14 x FZ49 rockets

Usage in battles

Comparable to the Mirage IIIC in performance, the 5F lacks some of the electronics and missiles that make contemporary jets very competitive in aggressive fights.

Because of that, and its lack of countermeasures, the Mirage 5F's most important asset is retaining its speed. Since is a very fast aircraft, it is better used in a support role or doing passes around the map at high speeds, launching the missiles at priority targets that might be a threat to the Mirage or to save an ally from death. This good use of its ammunition is extremely important since the Mirage can only carry a maximum of 2 AAMs, one on each wing. Be careful, though, as the 2 Magic 1's are very short in range, take a second to arm, and suffer from a lot of drag. Its guns, while great and easy to aim, have a low muzzle velocity and work better at low speeds when it is easier to point the nose of the aircraft in the desired direction. But since they are 30 mm cannons, they will destroy any aircraft with a small burst, making them very reliable.

Going for ground bases is a good option in the Mirage 5F. The Mirage 5F is capable of carrying enough bombs to destroy a full base and still carry 2 missiles for air-to-air combat. When doing this, flying at medium altitudes and then diving to the bases is very important to stay alive, because when flying to close to the ground the enemy SPAA around the map can easily destroy or severely damage your aircraft. At the moment of approaching the base, it is important to go in a dive or lower your altitude closer to the ground because the Mirage has no ballistic computer at all. Once the bombs are dropped, the Mirage may be capable of playing aggressive in the middle of the match, since at that point most fights would have already started and enemies would be distracted. Thus climbing to high altitudes or playing too cautiously may result in a defeat, since your allies would need you helping in the fight.

The 5F's energy retention is decent at best, so be careful when dogfighting and choose your opponents wisely.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Good missiles; IR-guided Magics are very agile and have high G limits
• Hard hitting guns
• Decent loadout options
• Nimble attacker

Cons:

• Only two missiles
• Doesn't have access to laser-guided ordnance
• No flares or chaff of any kind
• Frequent uptiers against more capable jets

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Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the Mirage 5F from live.warthunder.com.

See also

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• Mirage 5 family.

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Dassault Aviation
WW2*
Fighters	M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Bombers	M.B.162 · M.B.174A-3 · M.B.175T
Jet Aircraft
M.D 450	M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystère	M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA
Super Mystère	Super Mystere B2
Étendard	Etendard IVM
Super Étendard	Super Etendard
Alpha Jet	Alpha Jet E**
Mirage
Mirage III	Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan
Mirage V	Mirage 5F
Mirage F1	Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Mirage 2000	Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV
Mirage 4000	Mirage 4000
Export
M.D 450	M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystere	Mystere IVA
Super Mystère	Sambad · Sa'ar***
Mirage	Shahak · ▄Mirage 5BA · ␗Mirage 2000-5Ei
	*The company was named "Société des Avions Marcel Bloch" before being renamed in 1947
	**Jointly manufactured with Dornier Flugzeugwerke
	***Israeli Super Mystère refitted with new avionics and an American engine
See also	SABCA