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== General info ==
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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The hull of the ship is made of 11 mm of steel plates, while the turrets are protected by thinner 8 mm steel. The superstructure is protected by 11 mm steel. Due to the Pr. 30 Ognevoy being a destroyer, this ship is lacking in armour in favour for more speed.
 
The hull of the ship is made of 11 mm of steel plates, while the turrets are protected by thinner 8 mm steel. The superstructure is protected by 11 mm steel. Due to the Pr. 30 Ognevoy being a destroyer, this ship is lacking in armour in favour for more speed.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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Although the Pr. 30 may be a bit slower than Frunze (38 kts vs 48 kts), you will notice better rudder performance.
 
Although the Pr. 30 may be a bit slower than Frunze (38 kts vs 48 kts), you will notice better rudder performance.
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== Armament ==
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==

Revision as of 12:01, 29 December 2020

Introducing Wiki 3.0
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Ognevoy
AB RB SB
4.0 4.0 4.0
Class:
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Description

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The Pr.30, Ognevoy, 1944 is a rank I Russian destroyer with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.87 "Locked On". This is the ship which is a stepping stone to Soviet destroyers.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Main fire tower8 / 8 / 8 mm
Hull16 mm (steel)
Superstructure4 mm (steel)
Number of section7
Displacement2 763 t
Crew276 people

The hull of the ship is made of 11 mm of steel plates, while the turrets are protected by thinner 8 mm steel. The superstructure is protected by 11 mm steel. Due to the Pr. 30 Ognevoy being a destroyer, this ship is lacking in armour in favour for more speed.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB84 / 35 km/h
RB68 / 29 km/h

Although the Pr. 30 may be a bit slower than Frunze (38 kts vs 48 kts), you will notice better rudder performance.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB632 → 821 Sl icon.png
RB1 005 → 1 306 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications6 000 Rp icon.png
4 540 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost410 Ge icon.png
Crew training1 800 Sl icon.png
Experts6 300 Sl icon.png
Aces80 Ge icon.png
Research Aces135 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
60 / 130 / 100 % Sl icon.png
106 / 106 / 106 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
Mods new ship hull.png
Dry-Docking
Research:
240 Rp icon.png
Cost:
180 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship rudder.png
Rudder Replacement
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship screw.png
Propeller Replacement
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
190 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship engine.png
Engine Maintenance
Research:
390 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods ship damage control crew.png
Damage Control Division
Research:
240 Rp icon.png
Cost:
180 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods ship fire control crew.png
Fire Division
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods engine smoke screen system.png
Smokescreen
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods ship anti fragmentation protection.png
Shrapnel Protection
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
190 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods ship venting.png
Ventilation
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
190 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship pumps.png
New Pumps
Research:
390 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods ship ammo wetting.png
Ammo Wetting
Research:
390 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
130mm_ussr_SAP_ammo_pack
Research:
240 Rp icon.png
Cost:
180 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
76mm_ussr_34k_distant_fuse_navy_HE_ammo_pack
Research:
240 Rp icon.png
Cost:
180 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods new aa caliber turrets.png
Anti-Air Armament Targeting
Research:
240 Rp icon.png
Cost:
180 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
76mm_ussr_34k_navy_AP_ammo_pack
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods new aux caliber turrets.png
Auxiliary Armament Targeting
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods he frag proxi fuze ship.png
130mm_ussr_aa_radiofuse_ammo_pack
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
190 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods ship rangefinder.png
Improved Rangefinder
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
190 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods new main caliber turrets.png
Primary Armament Targeting
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
190 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods ship mortar.png
Bomb mortar
Research:
390 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods torpedo.png
Torpedo Mode
Research:
390 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png

Armament

Primary armament

2 х Turret2 x 130 mm/50 B-13 cannon
Ammunition300 rounds
Vertical guidance-5° / 45°
Main article: B-13 (130 mm)

The Ognevoy is a ship where the player is introduced to the famous Soviet 130 mm naval guns. This armament can be considered both an upgrade/downgrade from Frunze. Due to having only 2 turrets, losing just one of them will mean that 50% of your available guns are available to engage opponents.

Three types of shells are available: Basic HE, PB-46A semi-armor piercing, and ZS-46RS high-explosive variable time fuze shell. Every shell will be viable in matches.

Secondary armament

Turret2 x 76 mm/55 39-K cannon
Ammunition600 rounds
Main article: 39-K (76 mm)

There is only one secondary gun, located behind the second rangefinder. Performance is mediocre against both surface and air targets, as the gun gets similar shells as the main armament.

Anti-aircraft armament

6 х Turret37 mm/67 70-K automatic cannon
Ammunition2000 rounds
Belt capacity5 rounds
Fire rate180 shots/min
4 х Turret12.7 mm DShK machine gun
Ammunition2000 rounds
Belt capacity50 rounds
Fire rate600 shots/min

The anti-aircraft armament are the largest improvement over the Frunze. These guns allow one to both engage air and naval targets (PT- boats).

37 mm gets a full HE-belt.

12.7 mm gets AP-belt most of the time.

Torpedo armament

Main article: 53-39

Torpedoes launchers are standard equipment on many ships and boats. Torpedoes are a significant means of defeating an opponent. Evaluate the position of the torpedo launchers, discuss the ammunition available, firing specifics such as dead zones, features of the torpedoes themselves, etc.

If there is no torpedo armament, remove this section.

Additional armament

Setup 16 x 533 mm 53-39 torpedo
Setup 22 x BB-1 large depth charge
Setup 36 x 533 mm 53-39 torpedo
2 x BB-1 large depth charge

Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes.

If there is no additional armament, remove this section.

Usage in battles

This is a good all-around destroyer. Good guns, good anti-aircraft weapons, and decent torpedoes. Although it may be a bit slow, this weakness is well compensated by the numerous strengths. If a player is in the division, it is a good escort ship.

Modules

Tier Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
I Dry-Docking Tool Set 130 mm PB-46A SAPBC 76 mm O-361D Anti-Air Armament Targeting
II Rudder Replacement Fire Protection System Smokescreen 76 mm BR-361 Auxiliary Armament Targeting
III Propeller Replacement Shrapnel Protection Ventilation 130 mm ZS-46R HE-VT Improved Rangefinder Primary Armament Targeting
IV Engine Maintenance New Pumps Ammo Wetting Bomb mortar Torpedo Mode

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent AA defense thanks to 37 mm cannons
  • Can easily destroy PT boats with 37 mm cannons
  • Surprisingly resilient to air attack
  • Fairly good speed and rudder handling
  • Relatively powerful main battery for tier
  • Low repair costs

Cons:

  • Main battery is disabled semi frequently, costing you a significant portion of your firepower
  • Stock torpedoes have a range of just 4 km
  • First stage ammo storage is easily depleted in sustained combat
  • Fires tend to lead to rapid detonations while in near stock configuration

History

Interestingly enough, there is not that much known about this ship. This class of ships was intended to be an improvement over the Project 7 and Project 7U destroyers. Ognevoy guns came straight out of the Tashkent Destroyer when the ship was salvaged. Only two ships were constructed before and during WW2, while the rest was were completed following the war. The Pr. 30 Ognevoy made the way for the Skoryy-class of destroyers. The combat record of Ognevoy itself is unknown, but some sources indicate that it served to its full potential.

Media

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the ship;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


USSR destroyers
  Imperial Russia
Derzky-class  Frunze
Fidonisy-class  Kerch
  Soviet Union
Pr. 1  Leningrad · Moskva
Pr. 45  Opytny
Pr. 7  Besposhchadny · Ryany
Pr. 7U  Soobrazitelny · Stroyny
Pr. 20  Tashkent
Pr. 30  Ognevoy
Pr. 30-bis  Smelyi · Bezuprechny
Pr. 41  Neustrashimy
Pr. 56  Spokoinyy · Blagorodnyy · Bravy
Trophies  Romania
Regele Ferdinand-class  Letuchiy