AMX-50 Foch

This page is about the tank destroyer AMX-50 Foch. For other uses, see AMX-50 (Family).

AMX-50 Foch

AMX-50 Foch

Description

The Canon automoteur AMX-50 Foch is a Rank French tank destroyer with a battle rating of (AB), (RB), and (SB). It was introduced during Update 1.75 "La Résistance".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	180mm (55°) Front glacis 100 mm (60°) Lower glacis 180-300 (0-72°) + 180 mm Gun mantlet	40 mm (15°) Top 40 mm Bottom	40 mm Top 40 mm (40°) Bottom	30 mm Fighting compartment 20 mm Engine deck 90 mm Gun mantlet
Armour	Sides	Roof
Cupola	200 mm Front 30 mm Everywhere else	30 mm

Notes:

• Suspension wheels and tracks are both 20 mm thick.
• Road wheels are interleaved and provide cumulative protection for the lower side hull.

Mobility

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
	Forward	Reverse		Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade				1420			__.__
Realistic				884			__.__

Armaments

Main armament

120 mm SA46
Capacity			Vertical guidance	Horizontal guidance	Stabilizer
48			-6°/+16°	±9°	N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode	Stock	Upgraded	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade	__.__	__.__	__.__	__.__	__.__
Realistic	__.__	__.__	__.__	__.__	__.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
19.4	__.__	__.__	__.__

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
		10m	100m	500m	1000m	1500m	2000m
120 mm Obus de rupture	AP	301	298	286	272	258	245
120 mm Obus explosif	HE	39	39	39	39	39	39

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity in m/s	Projectile Mass in kg	Fuse delay in m:	Fuse sensitivity in mm:	Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):	Normalization At 30° from horizontal:	Ricochet:
								0%	50%	100%
120 mm Obus de rupture	AP	1,067	23	N/A	N/A	N/A	°	48°	63°	71°
120 mm Obus explosif	HE	762	23	0.1	0.1	4,650	+0°	79°	80°	81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AMX-50 Foch.

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	4th rack empty	5th rack empty	Visual discrepancy
48	43 (+5)	31 (+17)	19 (+29)	5 (+43)	1 (+47)	yes

Right side empty: 19 (+29)

Machine guns

15 mm MG151/15
Loader's cupola mount
Capacity (Belt capacity)				Fire rate (shots/minute)	Vertical guidance	Horizontal guidance
500 (500)				700	-3°/+20°	-35°/+160°

Usage in battles

The AMX-50 Foch does well in concealment, and so the first thing to do upon spawning onto the battlefield is to find a place where the AMX-50 Foch can hide while having a good arc of fire against incoming enemies. Do this to minimise the weakpoints of the vehicle, such as the weak side armour and the long reload time. If the enemy sees only the front armour, it should be fine given the thick, sloped armour available, but do take note on the type of enemy encountered.

If a Leopard I tank or anything else with HEAT shells notice the AMX-50 Foch's position, immediately move as these vehicles can very easily penetrate the AMX-50 Foch's frontal armour. However, encountering tanks with only standard AP shells like a Tiger II should suffice as they would have a harder time penetrating through the front of the AMX-50 Foch.

Being patient is key to the success of the AMX-50 Foch. Going out and hunting enemies, especially in close-range fights, is not beneficial to a long-term survival strategy in the AMX-50 Foch, especially with the weak side armour.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Very powerful 120 mm gun; can even penetrate the Maus at some points
• Reasonably fast
• Has an MG-151 on the top in its own turret
• Great armour on the front slope plate (upper glacis)
• Immense spalling from the AP shells; head-on one-shots are very likely
• Good mobility
• Rangefinder logs range very quickly

Cons:

• No turret; vulnerable to getting flanked
• Longer reload than the AMX-50 Surbaisse
• Limited ammo choices
• The Main gun has a very narrow firing arc
• AP shells will have a hard time destroying some opponents from the side
• Very thin side armour
• Rangefinder and gun mantlet are weak spots - allowing APHE to destroy the Foch you with a well-placed shot
• MG-151 jams quickly, turns slowly and has a very limited firing arc and elevation
• Very low levels of zoom

History

During the early 1950s, DEFA worked to produce the third version of the AMX 50 heavy tank which featured a 120 mm self-propelled gun, however, during upgrades weight became a factor severely hampering the speed of the vehicle. 1955 saw a team of seventy German engineers brought in to help solve the problem maintaining the 120 mm cannon plus have the necessary armour and maintain a 65 kph speed. Due to the delays and problems encountered during construction, only five prototypes were constructed and only one was finished which became known as the Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch, named after the supreme allied commander during World War I, Marshal Ferdinand Foch, general and military theorist. The main purpose of the AMX 50 "120 mm" was to provide long-range support for the medium AMX 50 "100 mm" tanks. An ambitious task of designing a version with a 155 mm cannon was started, however, this never made it past the drawing stage.

Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the AMX-50 Foch from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

The Shooting Range #99 - Metal Beasts section at 00:38 discusses the AMX-50 Foch.

Top 7 most armoured vehicles discusses the AMX-50 Foch at 3:12 - War Thunder Official Channel

Best tank destroyers discusses the AMX-50 Foch at 6:08 - War Thunder Official Channel

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

• reference to the series of the vehicles;
• links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

• [Vehicles] AMX-50 Foch: Racing Tortoise
• [Wikipedia] AMX 50 "120 mm"

France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives	CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM	MEPHISTO · AMX-10M
Other	AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA	▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2