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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].  It is often referred to as the "missile with a man in it" or the "widow maker", the latter nickname highlighting its questionable safety record in Luftwaffe use.
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].  It is often referred to as the "missile with a man in it" or the "widow maker", the latter nickname highlighting its questionable safety record in Luftwaffe use.
  
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
* 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, -mounted (750 rpg)
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* 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, nose-mounted (750 rpg)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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* 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total)
 
* 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total)
 
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 1 x 250 kg Matra 25E bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (250 kg total)
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* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 250 kg Matra 25E bomb (250 kg total)
* 1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (500 lb total)
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* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb (500 lb total)
* 1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (750 lb total)
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* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb (750 lb total)
* 1 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (1,000 lb total)
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* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb (1,000 lb total)
* 1 x 250 kg Matra 25E bomb + 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles (250 kg total)
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* 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 250 kg Matra 25E bomb (250 kg total)
* 1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles (500 lb total)
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* 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb (500 lb total)
* 1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles (750 lb total)
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* 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb (750 lb total)
* 1 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles (1,000 lb total)
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* 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb (1,000 lb total)
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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=== Modules ===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! Tier
 
! Flight performance
 
! Survivability
 
! colspan="4" | Weaponry
 
|-
 
| I
 
| Compressor
 
| Fuselage repair
 
| Offensive 20 mm
 
| LAU-32
 
| Type 25C
 
| Flares
 
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| II
 
| New boosters
 
| Airframe
 
|
 
|
 
| Mk82
 
| AIM-9B
 
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| III
 
| Wings repair
 
| G-suit
 
| New 20 mm cannons
 
| Nord AS.20
 
| M117
 
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|-
 
| IV
 
| Engine
 
| Cover
 
| RWR
 
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| Mk83
 
| AIM-9B FGW.2
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===

Revision as of 21:46, 26 December 2020

Introducing Wiki 3.0
This page is about the German jet fighter F-104G (Germany). For other versions, see F-104 (Family).
◄F-104G
f-104g.png
GarageImage F-104G (Germany).jpg
◄F-104G
AB RB SB
10.7 11.0 10.7
Research:260 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:710 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

The ◄F-104G Starfighter is a rank VII German jet fighter with a battle rating of 10.7 (AB/SB) and 11.0 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Starfighters". It is often referred to as the "missile with a man in it" or the "widow maker", the latter nickname highlighting its questionable safety record in Luftwaffe use.

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 15 240 m2 387 km/h
Turn time34 s
Max altitude16 000 m
EngineGeneral Electric J79-MTU-J1K
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight24 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 15,240 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,343 2,317 16000 34.5 35.1 230.5 222.5 850
Upgraded ___ ___ __._ __._ __._ __._

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 546 N/A 833 444 ~13 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 720 < 950 < 800 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic Mass Wing loading (full fuel)
General Electric J79-GE-11 1 6,552 kg 532 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 33m fuel
1,540 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 7,353 kg 8,153 kg 8,954 kg 9,194 kg 24,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 33m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,128 kgf 6,357 kgf 0.86 0.78 0.71 0.69 0.26
Optimal 4,128 kgf
(0 km/h)
8,391 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
1.14 1.03 0.94 0.91 0.35

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff
Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear546 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 077 → 4 157 Sl icon.png
RB8 997 → 12 154 Sl icon.png
SB9 243 → 12 487 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications224 000 Rp icon.png
356 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training200 000 Sl icon.png
Experts710 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 080 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
120 / 310 / 600 % Sl icon.png
232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
M60_belt_pack
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
BLU-1
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Type 25C
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods heli false thermal targets.png
Flares/Chaff
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
LAU-32
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9B
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
M60_new_gun
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
Nord AS.20
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
M117
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9B FGW.2
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods agm missile.png
AS30
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow right 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9J
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: M61A1 (20 mm)

The F-104G (Germany) is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, nose-mounted (750 rpg)

Suspended armament

The F-104G (Germany) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 14 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
  • 2 x AS-20 Nord missiles
  • 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 14 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
  • 4 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles + 14 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
  • 2 x AS-20 Nord missiles + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AS-20 Nord missiles + 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles
  • 3 x 250 kg Matra 25E bombs (750 kg total)
  • 3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (1,500 lb total)
  • 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 250 kg Matra 25E bomb (250 kg total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb (500 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb (750 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb (1,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 250 kg Matra 25E bomb (250 kg total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb (500 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb (750 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb (1,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good top speed
  • Great rate of climb; even the F-4 Phantom may struggle to match it
  • Decent high-speed manoeuvrability
  • Good roll rate for a plane with tiny wings
  • M61 Vulcan cannon can do some serious damage to an enemy plane
  • Wide selection of secondary ordinance; much better than early F-104s

Cons:

  • Lousy low-speed manoeuvrability
  • Bleeds energy quickly in sustained turn-fights

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Lockheed Corporation
Fighters  XP-38G · P-38E · P-38G-1 · P-38J-15 · Bong's P-38J-15 · P-38K · P-38L-5-LO · YP-38
Bombers  B-34 · PV-2D
Jet Fighters  F-80A-5 · F-80C-10
  F-104A · F-104C
Strike Aircraft  F-117
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  ␗F-104A · ▀F-104G · ␗F-104G · ▄F-104G · ▅F-104J · ▄F-104S
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See Also  SABCA · Mitsubishi Heavy Industries · Fiat Aviation

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Me 262  Me 262 A-1a · Me 262 A-1a/Jabo · Me 262 A-1a/U1 · Me 262 A-1/U4 · Me 262 A-2a
  Me 262 C-1a · Me 262 C-2b
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  ◊MiG-21MF · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M"
  ◊MiG-29
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  ◊Su-22UM3K · ◊Su-22M4
  ◊IL-28
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F-84  ◄F-84F
F-86  ◄CL-13A Mk 5 · ◄CL-13B Mk.6 · ◄F-86K
F-104  ◄F-104G
F-4  ◄F-4F Early · ◄F-4F · ◄F-4F KWS LV
G.91  ◄G.91 R/3 · ◄G.91 R/4
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Ex-LSK  ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◄MiG-29G · ◄Su-22M4 WTD61
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