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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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With 578 crew members, and an armour belt of 60 mm, the Raimondo Montecuccoli boasts one of the most reliable hulls for taking damage from the front. while not displayed in the armor viewer the 25 mm of steel armor surrounding the ship alongside the forward Fuel tanks, allow the ship to take prolonged fire while leaving its crew and modules protected. However when approached from the side the decent 60 mm armour belt turns into a downside, as it is easily penetrated by low ranking vessels such as the Sumner. The rear ammo rack is particularly easy to destroy because of its location at the water line, and lack of modules to absorb damage.  
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With 578 crew members, and an armour belt of 60 mm, the Raimondo Montecuccoli boasts one of the most reliable hulls for taking damage from the front. 25 mm of steel armour also surrounds the ship alongside the forward fuel tanks, allow the ship to take prolonged fire while leaving its crew and modules protected. However when approached from the side the decent 60 mm armour belt turns into a downside, as it is easily penetrated by lower ranked vessels such as the [[Sumner (DD-692)|Sumner]]. The rear ammo rack is particularly easy to destroy because of its location at the water line, and the lack of modules around it to absorb damage.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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The Montecuccoli is tied with the Attilio Regolo as the fastest cruiser at 72 km/h.forward, while also boasting a high reverse speed of 32 km/h, while the Regolo can only reach a top speed of 26km/h in reverse. This high speed allows the Montecuccoli to dominate maps where it can push capture points or switch objectives quickly when needed.
 
  
 
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The Montecuccoli is tied with the Attilio Regolo as the fastest cruiser at 72 km/h forward, while also boasting a high reverse speed of 32 km/h, while the Regolo can only reach a top speed of 26 km/h in reverse. This high speed allows the Montecuccoli to dominate maps where it can push capture points or switch objectives quickly when needed.
  
 
== Armament ==
 
== Armament ==
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{{main|152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)}}
 
{{main|152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)}}
  
The Montecuccoli is equipped with 4 x 152/53 mm O.T.O Mod.1929 cannons x 2. This armament is divided between both sides of the ship allowing for good firing angles. The best round for the ship is the APHEBC palla with a penetration of 282 mm at 1,000m and an explosive mass of 800g. This shell allows the Montecuccoli to reliably frontally penetrate other ships bows to damage modules and ammunition racks when being pushed. As backup rounds the ship also carries two HE rounds labelled HE dirompente with 29 mm of penetration at any range or angle with an explosive mass of 2.39 kg, but the HE-TF round is also given a time fuse allowing it to be more versatile. because of the precarious ammunition rack location along the water. It is recommended to bring around 500 rounds of APHEBC for the primary round, and around 250 rounds of HE-TF to be used against smaller boats and aircraft.
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The Montecuccoli is equipped with 8 dual-mounted 152/53 mm O.T.O Mod.1929 cannons. This armament is divided between both sides of the ship allowing for good firing angles. The best round for the ship is the APHEBC Palla with a penetration of 282 mm at 1,000 m and an explosive mass of 800 g. This shell allows the Montecuccoli to reliably frontally penetrate other ships' bows to damage modules and ammunition racks when being pushed. As backup rounds the ship also carries two HE rounds labelled HE Dirompente with 29 mm of penetration at any range or angle with an explosive mass of 2.39 kg, but the HE-TF round is also given a time fuse allowing it to be more versatile. Because of the precarious ammunition rack location along the waterline, it is recommended to bring around 500 rounds of APHEBC for the primary round, and around 250 rounds of HE-TF to be used against smaller boats and aircraft.
  
 
=== Secondary armament ===
 
=== Secondary armament ===
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{{main|100 mm/47 O.T.O. Mod. 1928 (100 mm)}}
 
{{main|100 mm/47 O.T.O. Mod. 1928 (100 mm)}}
  
Equipped with 3 x 100 mm/47 O.T.O Mod. 1928 cannon x 2 the Montecuccoli is blessed with reliable secondary armament to be used when the primary armament is disabled. When used aggressively it is suggested to load primarily the APHE round because of its 150 mm of penetration at 100m, and its explosive mass at 820 g. This shell is reliable to disable the main turrets on other cruisers. However the HE-TF Contro-aerea is also useful as an anti aircraft shell, as well as using its 17 mm of penetration at any angle to deliver 1.3 kg of explosive mass to smaller pt boats.
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Equipped with 6 dual-mounted 100 mm/47 O.T.O Mod. 1928 cannons, the Montecuccoli is blessed with reliable secondary armament to be used when the primary armament is disabled. When used aggressively, it is suggested to load primarily the APHE round because of its 150 mm of penetration at 100 m, and its 820 g explosive mass. This shell is reliable to disable the main turrets on other cruisers. However the HE-TF Contro-aerea is also useful as an anti-aircraft shell, as well as using its 17 mm of penetration at any angle to deliver 1.3 kg of explosive mass to smaller PT boats.
  
 
=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
 
=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
 
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{{main|Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)|37 mm/54 Breda Mod.32 (37 mm)}}
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The Montecuccoli is adequately protected from aircraft by 4 x 37 mm/54 Breda Mod.32 auto cannon x 2, and 10 x 20mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.2 auto cannon.in conjunction with the secondary armament the AI will have no trouble removing smaller targets during a battle leaving the player safe to engage larger targets with the primary armament.  
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The Montecuccoli is adequately protected from aircraft by 8 dual-mounted 37 mm/54 Breda Mod.32 autocannons, and 10 single-mounted 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.2 autocannon. In conjunction with the secondary armament, the AI will have no trouble removing smaller targets during a battle leaving the player safe to engage larger targets with the primary armament.
  
 
=== Torpedo armament ===
 
=== Torpedo armament ===
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{{main|S.I. 270/533,4X7,2 Tipo M (533 mm)}}
 
{{main|S.I. 270/533,4X7,2 Tipo M (533 mm)}}
  
Graced with the 533 mm steam turbined torpedo  S.I. 270/533,4X7,2 Tipo M in dual mounts along the side of the main funnel, the Montecuccoli can achieve excellent firing angles for these torpedoes while also leaving them protected while charging an enemy. With torpedo mode enabled the torpedoes travel 12 km with a speed of 56 km/h, while disabled the torpedo travels 4 km at a speed of 93 km/h. because of the low amount of torpedoes (4 total) it is recommended to disable the torpedo mode as it allows the ship to more reliably aim the torpedoes while brawling.  
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Graced with 533 mm steam-turbined S.I. 270/533,4X7,2 Tipo M torpedoes in dual mounts along the sides of the main funnel, the Montecuccoli can achieve excellent firing angles for these torpedoes while also leaving them protected while charging an enemy. With torpedo mode enabled, the torpedoes travel 12 km with a speed of 56 km/h, while disabled the torpedo travels 4 km at a speed of 93 km/h. Because of the low amount of torpedoes (4 total), it is recommended to disable the torpedo mode as it allows the ship to more reliably aim the torpedoes while brawling.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The Raimondo Montecuccoli is second only to the Admiral Graf Spee in its ability to absorb damage using its bows large size, and lack of modules, allowing the ship to safely charge objectives or enemies. in addition to its high speed and excellent firing angles on the 4 torpedoes, it is best recommended to point the bow of the ship towards an enemy and close into the 4 km range of the torpedoes to get reliable kills on other cruisers that can't react to the positioning the Montecuccoli can achieve. This strategy works best against ships such as the Admiral Hipper, and Sverdlov. These ships lack the firepower to reliably disable the Montecuccoli, or adequately avoid the excellent torpedo spread the Montecuccoli can use. while this is the most enjoyable usage of the Montecuccoli, it isn't reliable for sustained game play as the ship can easily be flanked and destroyed after reaching the enemy lines. Ships such as the Admiral Graf Spee, Brooklyn, and Mogami can also counter this play style by using there excellent guns to penetrate the excellent bow protection to destroy the Montecuccoli. an alternative usage is as a stationary sniper after reaching an unexpected location by using its high speed. this play style eliminates the flanking threat, but limits the effectiveness of the guns and torpedoes.
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The Raimondo Montecuccoli is second only to the Admiral Graf Spee in its ability to absorb damage using its bow's large size, and lack of modules, allowing the ship to safely charge objectives or enemies. In addition to its high speed and excellent firing angles on the 4 torpedoes, it is best recommended to point the bow of the ship towards an enemy and close into the 4 km range of the torpedoes to get reliable kills on other cruisers that can't react to the positioning the Montecuccoli can achieve. This strategy works best against ships such as the [[Admiral Hipper]], and [[Sverdlov]]. These ships lack the firepower to reliably disable the Montecuccoli, or adequately avoid the excellent torpedo spread the Montecuccoli can use. While this is the most enjoyable usage of the Montecuccoli, it isn't reliable for sustained gameplay as the ship can easily be flanked and destroyed after reaching the enemy lines. Ships such as the Admiral Graf Spee, Brooklyn, and Mogami can also counter this playstyle by using their excellent guns to penetrate the excellent bow protection to destroy the Montecuccoli. An alternative usage is as a stationary sniper after reaching an unexpected location by using its high speed. This playstyle eliminates the flanking threat, but limits the effectiveness of the guns and torpedoes.
  
 
=== Modules ===
 
=== Modules ===
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! Seakeeping
 
! Seakeeping
 
! colspan="2" | Unsinkability
 
! colspan="2" | Unsinkability
! colspan="2" | Firepower
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! colspan="3" | Firepower
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| I
 
| I
|Dry-Docking
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| Dry-Docking
|Tool Set
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| Tool Set
 
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|
 
|
 
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|Anti-Air Armament Targeting
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| Anti-Air Armament Targeting
 
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|-
 
| II
 
| II
|Rudder Replacement
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| Rudder Replacement
|Fire Protection System
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| Fire Protection System
|Smokescreen
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| Smokescreen
|152 mm APHEBC Palla
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| 152 mm APHEBC Palla
|100 mm APHE Perforante
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| 100 mm APHE Perforante
|Auxiliary Armament Targeting
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| Auxiliary Armament Targeting
 
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| III
 
| III
|Propeller Replacement
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| Propeller Replacement
|Shrapnel Protection
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| Shrapnel Protection
|Ventilation
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| Ventilation
|Improved Rangefinder
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| Improved Rangefinder
|100 mm HE-Tf Contro-aerea
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| 100 mm HE-TF Contro-aerea
|Primary Armament Targeting  
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| Primary Armament Targeting
 
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|-
 
| IV
 
| IV
|Engine Maintenance  
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| Engine Maintenance
|New Pumps
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| New Pumps
|Ammo Wetting
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| Ammo Wetting
|152 mm HE Dirompente
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| 152 mm HE Dirompente
|Torpedo Mode
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| Torpedo Mode
 
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* Excellent forward protection
 
* Excellent forward protection
 
* Excellent torpedo firing angles
 
* Excellent torpedo firing angles
* Effective primary armament  
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* Effective primary armament
 
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
 
* Inadequate ammo protection
 
* Inadequate ammo protection
* Limited Torpedo quantity  
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* Limited torpedo quantity
 
* Inadequate torpedo range
 
* Inadequate torpedo range
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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The Raimondo Montecuccoli was designed in the third group of Condottieri-class light cruisers by Ansaldo, and Genoa. Named after the 17th century Italian general Raimondo Montecuccoli, the cruiser was involved in battles such as the battke if Punta Stilo, and convoy attacks during the battle of Pantelleria. The ship eventually ended surviving the war and acting as a training cruiser until 1961.
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The Raimondo Montecuccoli was designed in the third group of Condottieri-class light cruisers by Ansaldo, and Genoa. Named after the 17th century Italian general Raimondo Montecuccoli, the cruiser was involved in battles such as the Battle of Punta Stilo, and convoy attacks during the Battle of Pantelleria. The ship eventually ended surviving the war and acting as a training cruiser until 1961.
  
 
== Media ==
 
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Revision as of 09:47, 25 June 2020

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Description

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The Raimondo Montecuccoli-class, RN Raimondo Montecuccoli, 1943 is a rank IV Italian light cruiser with a battle rating of 5.3 (AB) and 5.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Starfighters".

General info

Survivability and armour

With 578 crew members, and an armour belt of 60 mm, the Raimondo Montecuccoli boasts one of the most reliable hulls for taking damage from the front. 25 mm of steel armour also surrounds the ship alongside the forward fuel tanks, allow the ship to take prolonged fire while leaving its crew and modules protected. However when approached from the side the decent 60 mm armour belt turns into a downside, as it is easily penetrated by lower ranked vessels such as the Sumner. The rear ammo rack is particularly easy to destroy because of its location at the water line, and the lack of modules around it to absorb damage.

Mobility

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 84 38
RB/SB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 72 32

The Montecuccoli is tied with the Attilio Regolo as the fastest cruiser at 72 km/h forward, while also boasting a high reverse speed of 32 km/h, while the Regolo can only reach a top speed of 26 km/h in reverse. This high speed allows the Montecuccoli to dominate maps where it can push capture points or switch objectives quickly when needed.

Armament

Primary armament

The Montecuccoli is equipped with 8 dual-mounted 152/53 mm O.T.O Mod.1929 cannons. This armament is divided between both sides of the ship allowing for good firing angles. The best round for the ship is the APHEBC Palla with a penetration of 282 mm at 1,000 m and an explosive mass of 800 g. This shell allows the Montecuccoli to reliably frontally penetrate other ships' bows to damage modules and ammunition racks when being pushed. As backup rounds the ship also carries two HE rounds labelled HE Dirompente with 29 mm of penetration at any range or angle with an explosive mass of 2.39 kg, but the HE-TF round is also given a time fuse allowing it to be more versatile. Because of the precarious ammunition rack location along the waterline, it is recommended to bring around 500 rounds of APHEBC for the primary round, and around 250 rounds of HE-TF to be used against smaller boats and aircraft.

Secondary armament

Equipped with 6 dual-mounted 100 mm/47 O.T.O Mod. 1928 cannons, the Montecuccoli is blessed with reliable secondary armament to be used when the primary armament is disabled. When used aggressively, it is suggested to load primarily the APHE round because of its 150 mm of penetration at 100 m, and its 820 g explosive mass. This shell is reliable to disable the main turrets on other cruisers. However the HE-TF Contro-aerea is also useful as an anti-aircraft shell, as well as using its 17 mm of penetration at any angle to deliver 1.3 kg of explosive mass to smaller PT boats.

Anti-aircraft armament

The Montecuccoli is adequately protected from aircraft by 8 dual-mounted 37 mm/54 Breda Mod.32 autocannons, and 10 single-mounted 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.2 autocannon. In conjunction with the secondary armament, the AI will have no trouble removing smaller targets during a battle leaving the player safe to engage larger targets with the primary armament.

Torpedo armament

Graced with 533 mm steam-turbined S.I. 270/533,4X7,2 Tipo M torpedoes in dual mounts along the sides of the main funnel, the Montecuccoli can achieve excellent firing angles for these torpedoes while also leaving them protected while charging an enemy. With torpedo mode enabled, the torpedoes travel 12 km with a speed of 56 km/h, while disabled the torpedo travels 4 km at a speed of 93 km/h. Because of the low amount of torpedoes (4 total), it is recommended to disable the torpedo mode as it allows the ship to more reliably aim the torpedoes while brawling.

Usage in battles

The Raimondo Montecuccoli is second only to the Admiral Graf Spee in its ability to absorb damage using its bow's large size, and lack of modules, allowing the ship to safely charge objectives or enemies. In addition to its high speed and excellent firing angles on the 4 torpedoes, it is best recommended to point the bow of the ship towards an enemy and close into the 4 km range of the torpedoes to get reliable kills on other cruisers that can't react to the positioning the Montecuccoli can achieve. This strategy works best against ships such as the Admiral Hipper, and Sverdlov. These ships lack the firepower to reliably disable the Montecuccoli, or adequately avoid the excellent torpedo spread the Montecuccoli can use. While this is the most enjoyable usage of the Montecuccoli, it isn't reliable for sustained gameplay as the ship can easily be flanked and destroyed after reaching the enemy lines. Ships such as the Admiral Graf Spee, Brooklyn, and Mogami can also counter this playstyle by using their excellent guns to penetrate the excellent bow protection to destroy the Montecuccoli. An alternative usage is as a stationary sniper after reaching an unexpected location by using its high speed. This playstyle eliminates the flanking threat, but limits the effectiveness of the guns and torpedoes.

Modules

Tier Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
I Dry-Docking Tool Set Anti-Air Armament Targeting
II Rudder Replacement Fire Protection System Smokescreen 152 mm APHEBC Palla 100 mm APHE Perforante Auxiliary Armament Targeting
III Propeller Replacement Shrapnel Protection Ventilation Improved Rangefinder 100 mm HE-TF Contro-aerea Primary Armament Targeting
IV Engine Maintenance New Pumps Ammo Wetting 152 mm HE Dirompente Torpedo Mode

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Highest top speed for a cruiser
  • Excellent forward protection
  • Excellent torpedo firing angles
  • Effective primary armament

Cons:

  • Inadequate ammo protection
  • Limited torpedo quantity
  • Inadequate torpedo range

History

The Raimondo Montecuccoli was designed in the third group of Condottieri-class light cruisers by Ansaldo, and Genoa. Named after the 17th century Italian general Raimondo Montecuccoli, the cruiser was involved in battles such as the Battle of Punta Stilo, and convoy attacks during the Battle of Pantelleria. The ship eventually ended surviving the war and acting as a training cruiser until 1961.

Media

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See also

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External links

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