M8 HMC (China)

␗M8 HMC

␗SU-76M

␗M8 HMC

␗SU-76M

China

I Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
1.3	1.3	1.3

Class:

Tank destroyer

Research:2 900

Purchase:700

This page is about the SPG M8 HMC (China). For other uses, see M8 (Disambiguation). For other vehicles of the family, see M8 General Scott (Family).

Description

The ␗75 mm Howitzer Motor Carriage M8 is a rank I Chinese tank destroyer with a battle rating of 1.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.91 "Night Vision".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

• Rolled homogeneous armour
• Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	28.5 mm (48-49°) Front Glacis 38.1 mm (15-30°) Lower glacis	28.5 mm Front 25.4 mm Rear	25.4 mm (1-47°) Top 25.4 mm (1-20°) Bottom	12.7 mm
Turret	38.1 mm (6-40°) Turret front 38.1 mm (1-65°) Gun mantlet	25.4 mm (18-20°)	25.4 mm (1°)	N/A

Notes:

• Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 10 mm thick.
• Tracks are peppered on the turret sides that give 17 mm extra where they are.
• Belly armour is 12.7 mm thick

Mobility

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
	Forward	Reverse		Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	70	19	15.6	420	565	26.92	36.22
Realistic	64	17		262	296	16.79	18.97

Armaments

Main armament

75 mm M2 Howitzer
Capacity				Vertical guidance	Horizontal guidance
46				-20°/+40°	±180°
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode	Stock	Upgraded	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade	5.28	7.31	__.__	__.__	10.45
Realistic	3.57	4.20	5.10	5.64	6.00
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
4.29	3.80	3.50	3.30

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
		10m	100m	500m	1000m	1500m	2000m
M48 shell	HE	10	10	10	10	10	10
M66	HEAT	89	89	89	89	89	89

Shell details
Ammunition	Velocity in m/s	Projectile Mass in kg	Fuse delay in m:	Fuse sensitivity in mm:	Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):	Normalization At 30° from horizontal:	Ricochet:
							0%	50%	100%
M48 shell	381	6.3	0.4	0.5	666	+0°	79°	80°	81°
M66	304	6.0	0.0	0.1	548.13	+0°	62°	69°	73°

Smoke characteristic
Ammunition	Velocity in m/s	Projectile Mass in kg	Screen radius in m	Screen time in s	Screen hold time in s:	Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):
M64	381	6.9	13	5	20	50

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the M8 Scott.

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	4th rack empty	Visual discrepancy
46	35 (+11)	23 (+23)	12 (+34)	1 (+45)	No

Machine guns

12.7 mm M2HB
Pintle mount
Capacity (Belt capacity)				Fire rate (shots/minute)	Vertical guidance	Horizontal guidance
400 (200)				576	-5°/+70°	±180°

Usage in battles

In general, the M8 Scott plays like a beefed-up M5A1. The massive increase in gun caliber and destructive potential means that enemies the light tank previously have difficulty destroying are now more easily dealt with. Like the M3/M5 Stuart, playing this tank aggressively will almost always guarantee a place on the leaderboard. Push for the cap and then take it without hesitation. Should an enemy get there first, enter the cap and flank the target. Get behind their turret and go for a shot to the turret rear. Once the capture point is held, find a good hull down position and use the 75 mm HEAT to destroy any and all oncoming tanks.

Against heavier armour, the need to find a good hidden position is critical. On certain tanks, the addition of track armour can give the M8 difficulty in penetrating them. Hence a good hull down position on their flank can provide a good position to hit their side armour, with almost certain destruction coming from it.

Tanks like the Panzer IV F2 and it's line of tanks can be a serious headache for the vehicle to encounter. Aim for the right side of their turret and knock-out their gunner first, then aim for the middle of their hull (upper or lower glacis works) for a final shot. Outside of that most of the heavy armour will be out of the M8's BR range, leaving most encountered vehicles viable to destroy.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• 12.7 mm heavy machine gun is very good at dealing with AA vehicles and soft targets.
• 75 mm HEAT round can handle most contemporary adversaries.
• Fast reloads for the caliber.
• Low muzzle velocity shell's parabolic path can allow for shooting over hills.
• Speed and mobility akin of the Stuart light tanks.

Cons:

• Open-top turret exposes crew to artillery and aircraft strafing fire.
• Thin armour.
• Shells have low muzzle velocity, not good for long-range fighting.
• Very slow turret traverse rate.
• Bad steering at high speeds.

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