Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)

Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)

Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)

Germany

IV Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
7.0	7.0	7.0

Class:

Heavy tank

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Description

The Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. B mit 10.5cm KwK L/68 (or just Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)) is a Rank IV German heavy tank with a battle rating of 7.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced to the main tree during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41, however is being removed from the tree and becoming a gift vehicle as of Update 1.91. Increasing Tiger II's main cannon to a whopping 10.5 cm cannon, the Tiger II boasts a much more powerful armament than any of the preceding German heavy tanks.

General info

Survivability and armour

The armour on this variant is the same as on the regular Tiger II (H). The upper front plate provides excellent protection against any regular AP (APCBC, APHE etc.) shell you might face. The turret, however, is only 185 mm and easily penetrated by most enemies, but you can make it very difficult to hit by "wiggling" the turret left and right which will often result in bounces or non-pens. The lower glacis is a weak spot but the transmission right behind it often takes most of the shrapnel, it can catch fire pretty easily though, meaning researching FPE should be done as soon as possible.

Armour type:

• Rolled homogeneous armour
• Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola, driver MG port)

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides (Slope angle)	Rear (Slope angle)	Roof
Hull	150 mm (50-51°) Front glacis 100 mm (50°) Lower glacis	80 mm (27°) Top 80 + 5 mm Bottom	80 mm (28°)	40 mm
Turret	185 mm (8°) Turret front 200 mm Gun mantlet	80 mm (19-21°)	80 mm (20°)	40 mm
Armour	Sides	Roof
Cupola	150 mm	150 mm

Notes:

• Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.
• Some part of the turret side have track links on them, which gives an additional 30 mm of protection to the armour.
• The weak spot is the front of the turret (185 mm), but it is small and very difficult to hit at mid-long ranges, where it is also harder to penetrate.
• Machine gun port could be marked as a close-range weak spot. Although most of it is still 150 mm thick, the angling is much worse.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons)	Add-on Armor weight (tons)	Max speed (km/h)
70.5	N/A	44 (AB)
		42 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	1,162	1,431
Realistic/Simulator	796	900
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	16.48	20.29
Realistic/Simulator	11.29	12.77

Armaments

Main armament

105 mm KwK L/68
Capacity			Vertical guidance	Horizontal guidance	Stabilizer
54			-8°/+15°	±180°	N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode	Stock	Upgraded	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade	14.97	20.72	25.16	27.82	29.60
Realistic	11.01	12.95	15.72	17.39	18.50
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
20.02	17.71	16.32	15.40

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration in mm @ 90°
		10m	100m	500m	1000m	1500m	2000m
PzGr.Rot	APCBC	250	248	234	219	205	191
PzGr 40	APCR	276	272	247	220	207	170
Sprgr. L/4,4	HE	20	20	20	20	20	20

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity in m/s	Projectile Mass in kg	Fuse delay in m:	Fuse sensitivity in mm:	Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):	Normalization At 30° from horizontal:	Ricochet:
								0%	50%	100%
PzGr.Rot	APCBC	1,005	16	0.8	28	343.2	+4°	48°	63°	71°
PzGr 40	APCR	1,150	10	N/A	N/A	N/A	+1.5°	66°	70°	72°
Sprgr. L/4,4	HE	900	15	0.4	0.5	1,550	+0°	79°	80°	81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Tiger 105.

Full ammo	Ammo Part	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	4th rack empty	5th rack empty	Visual discrepancy
54	Projectiles Propellants	43 (+11) 45 (+9)	27 (+27) 37 (+17)	15 (+39) 19 (+35)	1 (+53) 9 (+44)	1 (+53)	no

Right side empty: 27 (+27)

Machine guns

7.92 mm MG 34
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity)				Fire rate (shots/minute)	Vertical guidance	Horizontal guidance
5,850 (150)				900	N/A	N/A

Usage in battles

This tank's best and almost only possible role so far is a sniper/support tank. Stay at distance, or your reload time and mobility will be the death of you.

Use your mobility to reach sniping zones and wait for enemy tanks to show up. Keep your distance to maximize the effectiveness of your armour and use cover to reload without having to worry about being destroyed. Avoid close combat as much as possible since most of the other tanks at your battle rate can penetrate your armour very easily and your reload rate is 20 secs so if your shot doesn't penetrate you will be easily killed.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Like with most German guns, the main gun is very accurate.
• With the high muzzle velocity, high armour penetration value, and high damage of the PzGr 39 shell, there's really no need to every load any other shell.
• With the explosive mass of the PzGr 39 shell being equivalent to 343 grams of TNT, penetrating shells are devastating. They deal arguably more damage than any of the Russian 122mm shells do. Expect a lot of one-shots.
• With the upgraded engine, transmission, and filters, the 10.5 Tiger II has nearly 300 (AB/ 200 in RB) more horsepower than a fully upgraded Tiger II H. This will make the 10.5 accelerate quicker and climb hills faster than any of the other Tiger II's. Including the Tiger II Sla 16.
• With the upgraded turret, the 10.5's turret traverse will be 20.5 degrees per second. This will help you defend against enemy medium or light tanks trying to execute a flanking manoeuvre.
• Upper front plate still borderlines on impenetrable. You'll only have to really worry about APDS and HEAT going through it.

Cons:

• With the same lightly armoured turret as the Tiger II H, expect nearly every enemy tank facing you to aim right for it.
• Even with an ACE crew, the main guns take more than 15 seconds to reload. So close range brawls are not advised.
• Despite being quick and manoeuvrable for a heavy tank, it's still not a medium tank. So don't expect to outmanoeuvre any medium you're likely to face.
• Gun is easily disabled, rendering the tank helpless.

History

Tiger II

The Tiger II with its 8.8 cm KwK 43 cannon was one of the most formidable tanks in World War II. Its 150 mm thick front armour plate sloped was never penetrated by an Allied tank throughout the war and its cannon could destroy any Allied tank fielded in the war. However, some German higher-ups believe that the armament on the Tiger II was just not enough, something more was needed.

Concept

Ideas of rearming the Tiger II was brought up by Krupp in sometime in late 1944. The concept drawing Krupp made was for the Tiger II to be rearmed with a 10.5 cm KwK L/68 cannon. This design would require new mountings and new mechanical parts to be optimized for the larger 10.5 cm gun. While the idea was indeed a very interesting one to up gun the Tiger II, it was never implemented because of its drawbacks. The 10.5 gun uses two-piece ammunition, which requires the presence of another loader. This is impossible because the turret is already cramped as is with three people inside, and the addition of another will make the interior a very miserable place to be in. Plus, the fact the gun's ammunition is two-piece already means that the drawback behind this upgrade is a much slower fire rate. This causes the concept to be rejected by German high command, and if it wasn't, it certainly ended with Germany's surrender in May 1945.

No prototypes were made and its existence is only proven by a concept drawing.

In-game description

This project was commissioned to improve the combat capabilities of the tank with a boosted fuel-injection Maybach HL230 engine with a power of 900 hp and an improved transmission. The designers of the company Henschel proposed the engine to be used for further production and also installed on Tiger II tanks which had already been produced, but the engine's production was prevented by the deterioration of the German economic situation. The tank was to be armed with the new 105 mm 10,5 cm KwK L/68 gun, equipped with a stabilizer. The gun would have used an automatic ammunition feed. The turret was equipped with a Zeiss stereoscopic rangefinder and a ventilation system. The vehicle was equipped with a crew compartment heating device. The tank's ammunition capacity was increased by 12 shells, thanks to an additional rack mounted inside the turret. A crew of 5-6 operated the tank, whose combat weight was 70.5 tons.

Production on the new Tiger II project, featuring the 10,5 cm KwK L/68 gun, was never launched.

Media

Live.Warthunder

• Camouflages and skins for the "Tiger II KwK 105" can be found on live.warthunder.com
• RideR2's Realistic gunsight (TZF4a, TZF 5a/b/d/e/f/f2, TZF 9b/b1/c/d, TZF 12/a) for Pzkpfw II, Pzkpfw III, Pzkpfw IV, Pzkpfw V, Pzkpfw VI

Images

The Tiger II 10.5 cm Concept art from Krupp.

See also

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