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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* No armor protection is on this aircraft
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* Fuel tanks located behind each engine
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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There is no offensive armament on this aircraft.
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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* 100kg FAB-100(Forged) x 24 (2400kg total)
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* 250kg FAB-250M43 x 12 (3000kg total)
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* 250kg FAB-250M43 x 4 + 500kg FAB-500(Welded) x 4 (3000kg total)
  
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
=== Defensive armament ===
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''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
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Turret x3: 7.62 mm DA machine gun x2 (720 RPG, totaling to 4320), 2 at top middle of fuselage, pointing rear and front, 1 at top of nose
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Turret x2: 7.62 mm DA machine gun (420 RPG, totaling to 840), located under wings in between 2 engines on each side
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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TB-3 is, in a nutshell a typical heavy bomber, and a very heavy, very slow one at that. It packs a truely majestic payload of 3000 kilos of bombs, however the problem is in getting this payload to its target. Maximum speed of TB-3 is less than 200 km/h and its flight will take a really long time during which the giant TB-3 will become a very easy and enticing target for all enemy fighters and even some bombers. All this combined with practically non existent manouverability makes this bomber a very vulnerable one and its pilots may consider themselves lucky if they reach the target - not mentioning the route back. However, the TB-3 is not at all defenceless. Five turrets with total of eight 7.62mm DA machine guns present quite an effective firepower - at least against fighters of the TB-3 age. When attacked, don't even bother with manouvers, man the turrets and open fire, it is the only hope of the TB. The effectivity of the turret fire is multiplied thanks to one previously mentioned factor - very low speed. As the maximum speed of TB-3 is equal to terminal speed of most of the fighters, these fighters will often have hard time intercepting the TB, while the TB gunners will gain great opportunity of hitting slowly approaching enemy planes. This tactics however doesn't work very well when attacked from below. In that case, pray.
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TB-3 is, in a nutshell a typical heavy bomber, and a very heavy, very slow one at that. It packs a truly majestic payload of 3000 kilos of bombs, however the problem is in getting this payload to its target. Maximum speed of TB-3 is less than 200 km/h and its flight will take a really long time during which the giant TB-3 will become a very easy and enticing target for all enemy fighters and even some bombers. All this combined with practically non existent maneuverability makes this bomber a very vulnerable one and its pilots may consider themselves lucky if they reach the target - not mentioning the route back. However, the TB-3 is not at all defenseless. Five turrets with total of eight 7.62mm DA machine guns present quite an effective firepower - at least against fighters of the TB-3 age. When attacked, don't even bother with maneuvers, man the turrets and open fire, it is the only hope of the TB. The effectiveness of the turret fire is multiplied thanks to one previously mentioned factor - very low speed. As the maximum speed of TB-3 is equal to terminal speed of most of the fighters, these fighters will often have hard time intercepting the TB, while the TB gunners will gain great opportunity of hitting slowly approaching enemy planes. This tactics however doesn't work very well when attacked from below. In that case, pray.
  
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
===Manual Engine Control===
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable
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Auto control available
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| Turret 7mm
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Note: This vehicle comes with all modules fitted. All research points contribute toward it's mark of distinction.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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* Good damage absorption due to large size and strong construction
 
* Good damage absorption due to large size and strong construction
 
* Difficult to hit by fast Boom & Zoom interceptors thanks to its low speed
 
* Difficult to hit by fast Boom & Zoom interceptors thanks to its low speed
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* Low rank fighters, can have difficulties (pending the skill of the fighter pilot) with climbing and reaching the flight level of TB-3
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* Despite it's low speed, not many planes are able to catch up to the TB-3 due to altitude difference
 
* It never rips itself from a dive
 
* It never rips itself from a dive
 
* Surprisingly maneuverable for it's size
 
* Surprisingly maneuverable for it's size
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* Very slow speed - is one of the slowest planes in game
 
* Very slow speed - is one of the slowest planes in game
 
* Very slow climb rate - the speed loss while climbing is very significant and can be deadly due to the low overall speed
 
* Very slow climb rate - the speed loss while climbing is very significant and can be deadly due to the low overall speed
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* Almost no speed reserve for maneuvring, especially apparent when landing
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* Almost no speed reserve for maneuvering, especially apparent when landing
 
* There are no brakes, that you have to wait for the plane to glide to a full stop before rearming
 
* There are no brakes, that you have to wait for the plane to glide to a full stop before rearming
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* Basically incapable of manuevering when attacked - survival depends on turret fire
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* Basically incapable of maneuvering when attacked - survival depends on turret fire
 
* Have no offensive armament and will require to slightly tip the plane forward for the turret to engage manually
 
* Have no offensive armament and will require to slightly tip the plane forward for the turret to engage manually
 
* No armour protection for the crew or modules
 
* No armour protection for the crew or modules
 
* Large size makes large target for enemy fire, even flak
 
* Large size makes large target for enemy fire, even flak
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* While relatively safe from fast interceptor fighters, the TB-3 is very vulnerable to agile and manoeuvrable planes
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* While relatively safe from fast interceptor fighters, the TB-3 is very vulnerable to agile and maneuverable planes
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 17:12, 6 July 2019

TB-3M-17-32
tb_3_m17_32.png
TB-3M-17-32
USSR flag.png USSR
I Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
1.3 1.3 1.3
Class:
PREMIUM
Purchase:Bundle or Gift
Show in game

Description

GarageImage TB-3M-17-32.jpg


The TB-3M-17-32 is a gift rank I Russian heavy bomber with a battle rating of 1.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced into the game sometime prior to Update 1.27.

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 1,000 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
168 162 3800 59.2 60.7 4.9 4.9 680
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 1,000 m) 		Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
202 185 3800 56.9 58.0 10.2 7.2 680

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flap
(km/h) 		Max Static G
+ -
0 450  ??? ~?? ~?
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< ??? < ??? < ??? > ???
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
 ?,??? m  ??? hp  ?,??? hp

Survivability and armour

  • No armor protection is on this aircraft
  • Fuel tanks located behind each engine

Armaments

Offensive armament

There is no offensive armament on this aircraft.

Suspended armament

  • 100kg FAB-100(Forged) x 24 (2400kg total)
  • 250kg FAB-250M43 x 12 (3000kg total)
  • 250kg FAB-250M43 x 4 + 500kg FAB-500(Welded) x 4 (3000kg total)

Defensive armament

Turret x3: 7.62 mm DA machine gun x2 (720 RPG, totaling to 4320), 2 at top middle of fuselage, pointing rear and front, 1 at top of nose

Turret x2: 7.62 mm DA machine gun (420 RPG, totaling to 840), located under wings in between 2 engines on each side

Usage in battles

TB-3 is, in a nutshell a typical heavy bomber, and a very heavy, very slow one at that. It packs a truly majestic payload of 3000 kilos of bombs, however the problem is in getting this payload to its target. Maximum speed of TB-3 is less than 200 km/h and its flight will take a really long time during which the giant TB-3 will become a very easy and enticing target for all enemy fighters and even some bombers. All this combined with practically non existent maneuverability makes this bomber a very vulnerable one and its pilots may consider themselves lucky if they reach the target - not mentioning the route back. However, the TB-3 is not at all defenseless. Five turrets with total of eight 7.62mm DA machine guns present quite an effective firepower - at least against fighters of the TB-3 age. When attacked, don't even bother with maneuvers, man the turrets and open fire, it is the only hope of the TB. The effectiveness of the turret fire is multiplied thanks to one previously mentioned factor - very low speed. As the maximum speed of TB-3 is equal to terminal speed of most of the fighters, these fighters will often have hard time intercepting the TB, while the TB gunners will gain great opportunity of hitting slowly approaching enemy planes. This tactics however doesn't work very well when attacked from below. In that case, pray.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Not controllable Not controllable Controllable

Auto control available

Seperate Not controllable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Turret 7mm
II Compressor Airframe New 7mm MGs(turret) Der-13
III Wings Repair Engine Der-15
IV Engine Injection Cover

Note: This vehicle comes with all modules fitted. All research points contribute toward it's mark of distinction.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Large payload of up to 3,000 kg (6,613 lb) with different payload configurations, capable of destroying all bombing targets in a single run
  • Adequate defensive firepower capable of fending off enemy fighters effectively
  • Good damage absorption due to large size and strong construction
  • Difficult to hit by fast Boom & Zoom interceptors thanks to its low speed
  • Despite it's low speed, not many planes are able to catch up to the TB-3 due to altitude difference
  • It never rips itself from a dive
  • Surprisingly maneuverable for it's size
  • Gunners have plenty of ammo before reloading

Cons

  • Very slow speed - is one of the slowest planes in game
  • Very slow climb rate - the speed loss while climbing is very significant and can be deadly due to the low overall speed
  • Almost no speed reserve for maneuvering, especially apparent when landing
  • There are no brakes, that you have to wait for the plane to glide to a full stop before rearming
  • Basically incapable of maneuvering when attacked - survival depends on turret fire
  • Have no offensive armament and will require to slightly tip the plane forward for the turret to engage manually
  • No armour protection for the crew or modules
  • Large size makes large target for enemy fire, even flak
  • While relatively safe from fast interceptor fighters, the TB-3 is very vulnerable to agile and maneuverable planes

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's devblog entry (if applicable) and the ingame encyclopedia description (under === Encyclopedia Info ===, also if applicable).

In-game description

"A four-motor all-metal monoplane with fixed landing gear and a crew of 12. Designed in the AGOS department (Aviation, Hydroaviation and Experimental Construction) of the TsAGI (Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute) under the direction of A.N. Tupolev.

In February 1929, the UVVS and TsAGI signed a contract for the construction of a “Metal bomber-type aircraft with 2,400 hp engine output”. The ANT-6 prototype model took its maiden flight on 20 March 1931.

Based on flight tests, the ANT-6 received the following appraisal: “Judging by all its flight characteristics, this aircraft is a highly advanced bomber, on the same level as the best foreign aircraft”. In fact, no foreign bomber possessed the same collection of flight characteristics as the Tupolev at that time. It was the best of its class in the world.

The ANT-6 was recommended for series production and accepted into service with German BMW-VI engines. At the end of the 1920s, the USSR obtained a license for their production and organized their manufacturing at the Rybinsk engine plant under the designation M-17. The aircraft received the military designation TB-3 (“tyazhyolyj bombardirovshchik tretiy”or “third heavy bomber”)

The TB-3 went into construction at the No. 22 aircraft plant in Fili – the only Soviet plant at that time experienced in working with duraluminum. On 26 February 1932, the first serial TB-3 was rolled out of its gates. The aircraft was powered by four water-cooled V12 BMW-VI engines with a maximum output of 735 hp. After the license was obtained, the engine was refined for series production and received the designation Mikulin M-17.

The TB-3's artillery and firing armament included a front-mounted Tur-6 open turret containing two tandem 7.62 mm Degtyaryov DA machine guns (the tandem version was designated DA-2), two diagonally-placed upper Tur-5 open turrets behind the wing edge which moved from side to side, each with a DA-2, and two extensible B-2 turrets under the wings armed with a single DA on a pivot, for firing to the rear.

The DA machine guns were disc-fed. A standard disc contained 60 rounds. The underwing B-2 turrets had 420 rounds (7 discs) each. The DA-2 turrets had 1440 rounds (24 discs per tandem turret) each.

Its standard bomb load amounted to 2,000 kg. When overloaded (by reducing its fuel supply) the aircraft could carry up to five tons of ordnance."

Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


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SB and Ar  SB 2M-100 · SB 2M-103 · SB 2M-103 MV-3 · SB 2M-103U · SB 2M-103U MV-3 · SB 2M-105 · Ar-2
Yer-2 (petrol)  Yer-2 (M-105) · Yer-2 (M-105) TAT · Yer-2 (M-105R) TAT · Yer-2 (M-105R) LU
Yer-2 (diesel)  Yer-2 (ACh-30B) (e) · Yer-2 (ACh-30B) (l)
Tu  Tu-2 · Tu-2S · Tu-2S-44 · Tu-2S-59 · Tu-4
Pe  Pe-2-1 · Pe-2-31 · Pe-2-83 · Pe-2-110 · Pe-2-205 · Pe-2-359 · Pe-8
IL  DB-3B · IL-4
Po  Po-2 · Po-2M
Other  MBR-2-M-34 · TB-3M-17-32 · Yak-4 · Be-6
Lend-Lease  ▂PBY-5A Catalina · ▂Hampden TB Mk I · ▂A-20G-30 · ▂B-25J-30

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  ▂Hurricane Mk IIB · ▂Spitfire Mk IXc · ▂Fw 190 D-9
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Strike aircraft  IL-2M "Avenger" · IL-2 M-82 · IL-8 (1944) · Su-6 · Tandem MAI · TIS MA · Su-8 · Tu-1
  Yak-38 · Su-7BMK · Su-25K · Su-39
Bombers  Po-2M · Be-6 · MBR-2-M-34 · Pe-2-205 · TB-3M-17-32
  ▂PBY-5A Catalina · ▂Hampden TB Mk I · ▂A-20G-30 · ▂B-25J-30

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