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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]]. | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]]. | ||
| − | A Gnevny-class destroyer, the | + | A Gnevny-class destroyer, the Besposhchadny was ordered under the Second Five-Year Plan and designed with assistance from Italian shipbuilders as a smaller and more affordable alternative to the contemporary Leningrad-class destroyer leaders of the Soviet navy. The Project 7 Gnevny-class design was based off of the Italian Folgore-class destroyers, and inherited the stability issues of the Italian design as well. |
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| − | The | + | The Besposhchadny has very little armour, as is typical for destroyers; the only armoured areas of the ship are the 13 mm and 8 mm gun shields of the 130 mm and 76 mm guns respectively. HE shells will have no difficulty destroying the guns and anti-aircraft cannons scattered about the deck of the Besposhchadny. |
| − | The crew count of the ship, at 271, is above average for her low displacement ( | + | The crew count of the ship, at 271, is above average for her low displacement (2,400 tons) but is otherwise unimpressive when compared with other destroyers. For comparison, the USS Aylwin at a displacement of 2,307 tons has a crew of 160 and the HMS Eskimo at a displacement of 2,519 tons has a crew of 260. |
While there are fuel tanks lining the bottom of her hull, those fuel tanks are below the waterline and thus will not protect against the vast majority of enemy fire. In addition to this, the majority of the Besposhchadny's internal components including her engine, funnels, and transmissions, are above the waterline and are thus exposed to penetrating shells. More significantly, both the shell rooms and magazines of the main armament extend above the waterline and thus are dangerously vulnerable to enemy fire and detonation. This is most conspicuous at the aft of the ship, where ammunition storage is over half above the waterline. | While there are fuel tanks lining the bottom of her hull, those fuel tanks are below the waterline and thus will not protect against the vast majority of enemy fire. In addition to this, the majority of the Besposhchadny's internal components including her engine, funnels, and transmissions, are above the waterline and are thus exposed to penetrating shells. More significantly, both the shell rooms and magazines of the main armament extend above the waterline and thus are dangerously vulnerable to enemy fire and detonation. This is most conspicuous at the aft of the ship, where ammunition storage is over half above the waterline. | ||
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{{main|B-13 (130 mm)}} | {{main|B-13 (130 mm)}} | ||
| − | The primary armament of the | + | The primary armament of the Besposhchadny comes in the form of four single-mount 130 mm B-13 guns, an armament quite similar to most Soviet destroyers built before the conclusion of the Second World War. These guns are an upgrade over the 102 mm Pattern 1911 guns of the Frunze and Fidonisy-class Kerch, although it is worth keeping in mind that not every statistic of the 130 mm guns is superior to that of the 102 mms. |
| − | The main advantage of the 130 mm B-13 guns over similar weapons is their ammunition. While the | + | The main advantage of the 130 mm B-13 guns over similar weapons is their ammunition. While the calibre of the guns is slightly larger than 127 mm, the most common calibre of destroyer main armaments, the explosive filler and thus damage of the 130 mm B-13 far exceeds contemporary rounds. The B-13 has access to three types of shells: OF-46 HE, PB-46A SAPBC, and ZS-46R HE-VT. The HE carries an explosive charge of 3.58 kg of TNT, and is more than competent at disabling external and unarmoured components of other destroyers as well as dealing massive structural damage to coastal vessels. The shell compares favourably to the HE found on the vaunted American 5"/38 gun, which has an explosive equivalency of 3.22 kg of TNT in a 127 mm calibre shell, but is not massively better. The more distinctly powerful shell is the SAPBC of the B-13, which has an explosive charge of 2.35 kg of TNT. This is more than twice the explosive filler of the analogous and very competent 5" Common Mk.32 shell of the 5"/38. The explosive filler of the SAP shells allows the Besposhchadny to deal massive damage to internal components and crew compartments with each salvo. On top of that, the 130 mm PB-46A has a greater penetration than the SP Common shell of the 5"/38 gun, which enables the combating of even cruisers and their additional armour. To round the shell choices off, the HE-VT shell provides a semblance of air defense capability through the B-13, although this role isn't very well filled by the Besposhchadny. |
| − | The primary disadvantage of the B-13 guns on the | + | The primary disadvantage of the B-13 guns on the Besposhchadny is their handling. The single gun mounts have a modest elevation limit with a maximum elevation of 45° and depression of 5° but are severely limited in rotation speed. In both horizontal and vertical targeting speeds, the mount rotates at less than 5°/s. This limits the ability of the Besposhchadny to react in combat, and nearly rules out the possibility of aiming at aerial targets. Another disadvantage of the B-13 guns on the Besposhchadny is their relatively slow rate of fire. 10 rounds per minute does not allow for rapid retargeting of components or vessels, and hampers the damage per minute of the Besposhchadny. While this lengthy reload may be somewhat mitigated by the power of the individual shells, it still is a tactical disadvantage that must be taken into account when utilizing the Besposhchadny. |
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| − | {{main|34-K (76 mm)}}There are two 76 mm 39-K guns in single mounts on the Besposhchadny on a pedestal between the torpedo launchers of the ship. Although there are some angles that allow the two 76 mm guns to fire at a single target, most typically only one gun will be able to fire at a target. Similarly to the main armament, the 76 mm guns have poor rotation speeds, although the maximum elevation is increased to 85°. Their performance is mediocre against surface targets due to low number of guns as well as the small | + | {{main|34-K (76 mm)}} |
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| + | There are two 76 mm 39-K guns in single mounts on the Besposhchadny on a pedestal between the torpedo launchers of the ship. Although there are some angles that allow the two 76 mm guns to fire at a single target, most typically only one gun will be able to fire at a target. Similarly to the main armament, the 76 mm guns have poor rotation speeds, although the maximum elevation is increased to 85°. Their performance is mediocre against surface targets due to low number of guns as well as the small calibre, which inhibits the damage potential of the shells fired. That being said, the 39-K guns do have a good rate of fire at 27 rounds per minute. | ||
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| 76 mm O-361K || HE || 845 || 6.95 || 0 || 0.1 || 483 || 79° || 80° || 81° | | 76 mm O-361K || HE || 845 || 6.95 || 0 || 0.1 || 483 || 79° || 80° || 81° | ||
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| − | | 76 mm O-361D || HE-TF || 810 || 6.61|| 0 || 0.1 || 182 || 79° || 80° || 81° | + | | 76 mm O-361D || HE-TF || 810 || 6.61 || 0 || 0.1 || 182 || 79° || 80° || 81° |
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| 76 mm BR-361 || APHEBC || 816 || 6.5 || 1.6 || 4 || 119 || 48° || 63° || 71° | | 76 mm BR-361 || APHEBC || 816 || 6.5 || 1.6 || 4 || 119 || 48° || 63° || 71° | ||
Revision as of 13:52, 31 December 2022
Contents
Description
The Pr.7, Besposhchadny, 1943 is a rank I Soviet destroyer with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Fire and Ice".
A Gnevny-class destroyer, the Besposhchadny was ordered under the Second Five-Year Plan and designed with assistance from Italian shipbuilders as a smaller and more affordable alternative to the contemporary Leningrad-class destroyer leaders of the Soviet navy. The Project 7 Gnevny-class design was based off of the Italian Folgore-class destroyers, and inherited the stability issues of the Italian design as well.
General info
Survivability and armour
The Besposhchadny has very little armour, as is typical for destroyers; the only armoured areas of the ship are the 13 mm and 8 mm gun shields of the 130 mm and 76 mm guns respectively. HE shells will have no difficulty destroying the guns and anti-aircraft cannons scattered about the deck of the Besposhchadny.
The crew count of the ship, at 271, is above average for her low displacement (2,400 tons) but is otherwise unimpressive when compared with other destroyers. For comparison, the USS Aylwin at a displacement of 2,307 tons has a crew of 160 and the HMS Eskimo at a displacement of 2,519 tons has a crew of 260.
While there are fuel tanks lining the bottom of her hull, those fuel tanks are below the waterline and thus will not protect against the vast majority of enemy fire. In addition to this, the majority of the Besposhchadny's internal components including her engine, funnels, and transmissions, are above the waterline and are thus exposed to penetrating shells. More significantly, both the shell rooms and magazines of the main armament extend above the waterline and thus are dangerously vulnerable to enemy fire and detonation. This is most conspicuous at the aft of the ship, where ammunition storage is over half above the waterline.
Mobility
Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.
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| Game Mode | Upgrade Status | Maximum Speed (km/h) | |
| Forward | Reverse | ||
| AB | |||
| Upgraded | 84 | 40 | |
| RB/SB | |||
| Upgraded | 69 | 32 | |
Modifications and economy
| Seakeeping | Unsinkability | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Armament
Primary armament
The primary armament of the Besposhchadny comes in the form of four single-mount 130 mm B-13 guns, an armament quite similar to most Soviet destroyers built before the conclusion of the Second World War. These guns are an upgrade over the 102 mm Pattern 1911 guns of the Frunze and Fidonisy-class Kerch, although it is worth keeping in mind that not every statistic of the 130 mm guns is superior to that of the 102 mms.
The main advantage of the 130 mm B-13 guns over similar weapons is their ammunition. While the calibre of the guns is slightly larger than 127 mm, the most common calibre of destroyer main armaments, the explosive filler and thus damage of the 130 mm B-13 far exceeds contemporary rounds. The B-13 has access to three types of shells: OF-46 HE, PB-46A SAPBC, and ZS-46R HE-VT. The HE carries an explosive charge of 3.58 kg of TNT, and is more than competent at disabling external and unarmoured components of other destroyers as well as dealing massive structural damage to coastal vessels. The shell compares favourably to the HE found on the vaunted American 5"/38 gun, which has an explosive equivalency of 3.22 kg of TNT in a 127 mm calibre shell, but is not massively better. The more distinctly powerful shell is the SAPBC of the B-13, which has an explosive charge of 2.35 kg of TNT. This is more than twice the explosive filler of the analogous and very competent 5" Common Mk.32 shell of the 5"/38. The explosive filler of the SAP shells allows the Besposhchadny to deal massive damage to internal components and crew compartments with each salvo. On top of that, the 130 mm PB-46A has a greater penetration than the SP Common shell of the 5"/38 gun, which enables the combating of even cruisers and their additional armour. To round the shell choices off, the HE-VT shell provides a semblance of air defense capability through the B-13, although this role isn't very well filled by the Besposhchadny.
The primary disadvantage of the B-13 guns on the Besposhchadny is their handling. The single gun mounts have a modest elevation limit with a maximum elevation of 45° and depression of 5° but are severely limited in rotation speed. In both horizontal and vertical targeting speeds, the mount rotates at less than 5°/s. This limits the ability of the Besposhchadny to react in combat, and nearly rules out the possibility of aiming at aerial targets. Another disadvantage of the B-13 guns on the Besposhchadny is their relatively slow rate of fire. 10 rounds per minute does not allow for rapid retargeting of components or vessels, and hampers the damage per minute of the Besposhchadny. While this lengthy reload may be somewhat mitigated by the power of the individual shells, it still is a tactical disadvantage that must be taken into account when utilizing the Besposhchadny.
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 1,000 m | 2,500 m | 5,000 m | 7,500 m | 10,000 m | 15,000 m | ||
| 130 mm OF-46 HE | HE | 36 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 36 |
| 130 mm PB-46A SAPBC | SAPCBC | 181 | 156 | 122 | 96 | 77 | 56 |
| 130 mm ZS-46R HE-VT | HE-VT | 26 | 26 | 26 | 26 | 26 | 26 |
| Shell details | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (s) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | ||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | |||||||
| 130 mm OF-46 HE | HE | 870 | 33.4 | 0 | 0.1 | 3.58 | 79° | 80° | 81° |
| 130 mm PB-46A SAPBC | SAPCBC | 870 | 33.5 | 0.01 | 6 | 2.35 | 48° | 63° | 71° |
| Proximity-fused shell details | |||||||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (s) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Arming distance (m) |
Trigger radius (m) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | ||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | |||||||||
| 130 mm ZS-46R HE-VT | HE-VT | 870 | 33.8 | 0 | 0.1 | 240 | 16 | 2.06 | 79° | 80° | 81° |
Secondary armament
There are two 76 mm 39-K guns in single mounts on the Besposhchadny on a pedestal between the torpedo launchers of the ship. Although there are some angles that allow the two 76 mm guns to fire at a single target, most typically only one gun will be able to fire at a target. Similarly to the main armament, the 76 mm guns have poor rotation speeds, although the maximum elevation is increased to 85°. Their performance is mediocre against surface targets due to low number of guns as well as the small calibre, which inhibits the damage potential of the shells fired. That being said, the 39-K guns do have a good rate of fire at 27 rounds per minute.
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 100 m | 1,000 m | 2,000 m | 3,000 m | 4,000 m | 5,000 m | ||
| 76 mm O-361K | HE | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 |
| 76 mm O-361D | HE-TF | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 |
| 76 mm BR-361 | APHEBC | 121 | 100 | 81 | 65 | 53 | 43 |
| Shell details | |||||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | ||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | |||||||
| 76 mm O-361K | HE | 845 | 6.95 | 0 | 0.1 | 483 | 79° | 80° | 81° |
| 76 mm O-361D | HE-TF | 810 | 6.61 | 0 | 0.1 | 182 | 79° | 80° | 81° |
| 76 mm BR-361 | APHEBC | 816 | 6.5 | 1.6 | 4 | 119 | 48° | 63° | 71° |
Anti-aircraft armament
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Additional armament
Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.
Usage in battles
Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".
Pros:
Cons:
History
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Media
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See also
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- reference to the series of the ship;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
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- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
| USSR destroyers | |
|---|---|
| Imperial Russia | |
| Derzky-class | Frunze |
| Fidonisy-class | Kerch |
| Soviet Union | |
| Pr. 1 | Leningrad · Moskva |
| Pr. 45 | Opytny |
| Pr. 7 | Besposhchadny · Ryany |
| Pr. 7U | Soobrazitelny · Stroyny |
| Pr. 20 | Tashkent |
| Pr. 30 | Ognevoy |
| Pr. 30-bis | Smelyi · Bezuprechny |
| Pr. 41 | Neustrashimy |
| Pr. 56 | Spokoinyy · Blagorodnyy · Bravy |
| Trophies | Romania |
| Regele Ferdinand-class | Letuchiy |
