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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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'''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
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'''Armour type:'''
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* Cast homogeneous armour (Turret, Transmission area) -->
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* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, suspended part of the turret, turret roof)
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* Cast homogeneous armour (turret base and front, gun mantlet, driver's hatch, cupola, exhaust pipe cover)
  
 
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' <br> ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
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| Hull || 110 mm (48°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 50 mm (71°) ''Driver's hatch'' <br> 100 mm (59°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 100 mm (40°) ''Front cheeks'' || 75 mm (12°) ''Top'' <br> 60 mm ''Bottom'' || 60 mm (1°) ''Upper plate'' <br> 60 mm (31°) ''Lower glacis'' || 30 mm <br> 5 mm ''Radiator vents''
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| Turret || 85 mm (47-52°) ''Turret front'' <br> 100 mm (cylindrical) ''Turret base'' <br> 300 mm ''Barrel base'' || 100 mm (cylindrical) ''Turret base'' <br> 85 mm (cylindrical) ''Barrel base'' <br> 60 mm ''Turret pivot link'' <br> 40 mm (cylindrical) ''Turret pivot underside'' <br> 40 mm ''Suspended part'' <br> 30 mm (72°) ''Suspended part underside'' || 20 mm (1-34°) ''Suspended part'' <br> 40 mm (cylindrical) ''Turret pivot underside'' <br> 30 mm (78°) ''Suspended part underside'' || 20 mm
 
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| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' <br> ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
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| Commander cupola || 110 mm (cylindrical) ''Base'' <br> 40 mm (spherical) ''Dome'' || colspan="2" style="text-align:center" | 40 mm (7-12°) || 40 mm (11-20°) <br> 40 mm (spherical) ''Dome''
 
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| MG cupola || 40 mm (58-61°) || colspan="2" style="text-align:center" | 40 mm (spherical) || 40 mm (2-32°)
 
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'''Notes:'''
  
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* Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick. Suspension wheels are interleaved and thus overlap in some areas.
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* Hull undersides above tracks are 20 mm thick.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===

Revision as of 13:23, 16 November 2020

AMX-50 Surblindé
fr_amx_50_surblinde.png
AMX-50 Surblindé
AB RB SB
7.7 7.7 7.7
Class:
MARKET

Description

GarageImage AMX-50 Surblinde.jpg


The AMX-50 Surblindé is a gift rank V French heavy tank with a battle rating of 7.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy" and has the distinction of being the first gift vehicle of the French tech trees. Member of the French AMX-50 tanks family, it is very similar to the AMX-50 Surbaissé. Compared to it, it is lower, has a more protected turret armour and has a 20mm MG 151 canon at the top, which is very efficient against aircraft and lightly armoured targets. Anyway, it is also heavier and hasn't smoke grenades launchers compared to the Surbaissé.

It could be obtained as the highest reward of the first season "Recon under Fire" of the World War mode, but can also be bought on the War Thunder Market.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, suspended part of the turret, turret roof)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (turret base and front, gun mantlet, driver's hatch, cupola, exhaust pipe cover)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 110 mm (48°) Front glacis
50 mm (71°) Driver's hatch
100 mm (59°) Lower glacis
100 mm (40°) Front cheeks
75 mm (12°) Top
60 mm Bottom
60 mm (1°) Upper plate
60 mm (31°) Lower glacis
30 mm
5 mm Radiator vents
Turret 85 mm (47-52°) Turret front
100 mm (cylindrical) Turret base
300 mm Barrel base
100 mm (cylindrical) Turret base
85 mm (cylindrical) Barrel base
60 mm Turret pivot link
40 mm (cylindrical) Turret pivot underside
40 mm Suspended part
30 mm (72°) Suspended part underside
20 mm (1-34°) Suspended part
40 mm (cylindrical) Turret pivot underside
30 mm (78°) Suspended part underside
20 mm
Commander cupola 110 mm (cylindrical) Base
40 mm (spherical) Dome
40 mm (7-12°) 40 mm (11-20°)
40 mm (spherical) Dome
MG cupola 40 mm (58-61°) 40 mm (spherical) 40 mm (2-32°)

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick. Suspension wheels are interleaved and thus overlap in some areas.
  • Hull undersides above tracks are 20 mm thick.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 55 7 70 1,291 1,908 18.44 27.26
Realistic 52 6 884 1,000 12.63 14.29

The AMX-50 Surblinde has a very good speed (around 40 km/h on flat land when fully upgraded) for a super heavy tank, which allows a fast deployment on the battlefield aside medium and modern tanks. The manoeuvrability is also good and allows the player to drive easily in an urban environment.

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: SA46 (120 mm)
120 mm SA46 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 50 -6°/+10° ±180° N/A 19.4 26.9 32.6 36.1 38.4 6.00 6.00 6.00 6.00
Realistic 14.3 16.8 20.4 22.6 24.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
120 mm Obus de rupture APBC 301 298 286 272 258 245
120 mm Obus explosif HE 39 39 39 39 39 39
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
120 mm Obus de rupture APBC 1,067 23.1 N/A N/A N/A 47° 60° 65°
120 mm Obus explosif HE 762 22.84 0.1 0.1 4,650 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
50 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

Machine guns

20 mm MG 151
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 500 (250) 700 -5°/+80° ±180°
7.5 mm MAC 31
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 3,000 (150) 1,350 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine Rangefinder

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful 120 mm gun, a shot can pen a target protected with an armour of about 300 mm
  • Loading time is very short (6.0s), thanks to the autoloader
  • Probably the most mobile super-heavy tank of the game, a careful commander can perform
  • Very fast, can reach to 51 km/h on flat terrain

Cons:

  • One shot in the turret can make the tank explode: up to 18 shells are stored at the back of the turret

History

Start of the project

In July 1945, in the aftermath of liberation, the general staff of the French armed forces expressed the need for a heavy tank of national design. In view of the rise of tensions with the USSR and with the balance sheets drawn from the last world conflict, the French Army presented a precise specification of what was to be the future main tank of the army. The tank was to be comparable on several points to already existing machines. Indeed, it was requested armament of a minimum power equivalent to the gun of 88 mm German Tiger II. It was also asked for a shield equivalent to that of the Panther and mobility close to that of the T-34.

The AMX-50 Surblindé

In 1955, an AMX 50 Surblindé (over-armoured) is produced, able to measure itself against the most powerful machines then in service. A variant of the AMX-50 Surbaissé with a reinforced armour, the front armour shape is inspired by Russian tanks IS-3 or T10. The weight of this prototype reached about 60 tons.

Abandonment of the project

The tests carried out indicated a tank superior to its American and Soviet counterparts that were M26 Pershing and IS-3 respectively. But the Americans did not want to finance a project that would not be adopted. It was, therefore, necessary that the two countries, France and West Germany, adopt the tank so that its development continues. If France seemed ready to accept the project, it was not the case of West Germany which was inspired by the doctrines of the former general Heinz Guderian, a supporter of lighter and faster tanks. In addition, the development of new technologies and capabilities in the field of missiles and hollow-shell shells would render the massive tank armour obsolete and unsuitable for future large-scale conflict.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France heavy tanks
B1  B1 bis · B1 ter
2C  2C · 2C bis
ARL-44  ARL-44 (ACL-1)
AMX-50  Somua SM · AMX-50 Surbaissé · AMX-50 Surblindé
USA  ▄M4A3E2