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Revision as of 20:41, 29 October 2020

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90/53 M41M
AB RB SB
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Description

GarageImage 90 53 M41M.jpg


The Semovente 90/53 M41M (shortened as 90/53 M41M) is a rank III Italian tank destroyer with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour is not great, but the gun shield protects from .50 cal fire from the front and the very sloped hull armour can bounce shots. The back is very vulnerable as your crew can be knocked out by anything and the ammo is also stored there. One artillery shell behind you can one-shot the 90/53.

Despite that, it has better survivability than what people may expect from such a thinly-armoured vehicle. Because of its layout, the 90/53 M41M separates the crew into two different areas, the front compartment of the hull and the rear turret, with the engine bay in between. This also gives additional protection from the front side to the ammunition storage area, and so being destroyed by an ammo explosion is not a frequent thing.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 38 6 15.7 227 305 14.46 19.43
Realistic 35 6 142 160 9.04 10.19

The mobility is good on flat terrain and even on some slopes, about the same as other Italian tanks on the same chassis. Due to the 90° horizontal fire angle, the 90/53 M41M can drive diagonally while aiming.

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: 90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)
90 mm 90/53 mod.41 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 8 -5°/+19° ±45° N/A 9.7 13.4 __._ __._ 19.2 10.40 __.__ __.__ 8.00
Realistic 6.6 7.7 __._ __._ 11.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Granata Perforante da 90 APCBC 132 130 121 110 101 92
Granata da 90 HE 14 14 14 14 14 14
Granata Perforante mod.43 APCBC 158 156 146 134 124 114
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante da 90 APCBC 758 12.1 1.2 14 520 48° 63° 71°
Granata da 90 HE 850 10.1 0.1 0.5 1,000 79° 80° 81°
Granata Perforante mod.43 APCBC 773 11.1 1.2 14 180 48° 63° 71°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the 90/53 M41M

Last updated: 1.101.1.16

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
8 (+3) (+7) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
  • Pack 8 shells as your ammo capacity is very limited.


Usage in battles

Due to its high penetration at close ranges, excellent turret traverse and surprising survivability, the 90/53 can perform quite well in CQC combat in an urban environment. The 90/53 is quite lethal to most tanks it comes across and can deal quite easily with vehicles other tanks typically struggle with, such as KV-1s. This comes at the sacrifice of an exposed rear, so it is typically advised to make sure that your rear is always secure and not to overextend from your allies. Alternatively, the high calibre of the shell does make the 90/53 viable at range, but the lack of ammunition and machine guns for rangefinding make this task quite difficult. When entering battle, a full load of Granata Preforante mod.43 is typically advised.

The 90/53 is extremely vulnerable to AA guns as they can typically shred the 90/53's thin armour and should be avoided at all costs. Strafing from planes is also a common annoyance, as its lightly armoured and semi-exposed crew are easy targets from the air. Try to avoid open areas and stick to places with limited visibility from the air, such as forests and towns where planes will have trouble spotting you. If a plane is targeting you it might be wise to back your exposed rear into a solid object, like a wall or a cliffside to prevent the plane from hitting your rear.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism Granata Perforante mod.43
IV Transmission Engine

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Wide traverse angle
  • Exceptionally lethal APHE shells with outstanding penetration
  • Acceptable reloading time
  • If a shot penetrates the front, the engine and fuel tanks would absorb most of the fragmentation
  • Now, there are 4 crew members, so it's more likely to survive strafing runs.

Cons:

  • Poor gun depression
  • Extremely poor ammunition capacity (8 rounds)
  • Poor armour & exposed crewmembers in the turret
  • Poor dispersion, especially without upgrades
  • Mediocre mobility
  • If you have 3 crew members and a plane strafes from behind, you're most likely dead

History

The Semovente M41M da 90/53 consisted of a 90 mm anti-aircraft gun mounted on the rear of a lengthened M14/41 hull and chassis. The engine was moved from the rear of the vehicle to a central position. Conceived and built specifically for anti-tank use on the Eastern Front after it was clear Italian forces had no answer to Russian tanks like the T-34, was hurriedly designed and rushed into production in early 1942. In practice the large gun overstressed the chassis and engine, so production stopped after 30 were produced and none were ever sent to Russia. Only a handful of rounds could be carried on the vehicle; it had to be accompanied by a turretless L6/40 tank used as its ammunition carrier.

Twenty-four surviving vehicles were formed into the 10th Self-Propelled Gun Unit (Raggruppamento Semoventi), divided into 3 gruppi. It was sent to Sicily in June, 1943, and was deployed against the US 7th Army in fighting in the Licata area, losing all but two of its vehicles. These last two vehicles were abandoned and captured in Messina when Sicily fell. The few left behind in Italy were seized and used by Germany.

Media

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Italy tank destroyers
  Italy
M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
M42  75/34 M42
M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
Wheeled  Lancia 3Ro (100/17) · AS 42/47 · Breda 90/53 · Breda 501
Other  L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40
Germany  ▄StuG III G
USA  M36B1 · ▄M109G · M113A1 (TOW)
  Hungary
Zrínyi  Zrinyi I · Zrinyi II
USSR  ◔2S1