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== Description ==
 
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The '''MiG-17''' is a Rank V Soviet jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0. It was introduced in Update 1.55 "Royal Armour". The MiG-17 is the top-rank aircraft in the Soviet fighter line-up. It is known by many names in the world, with a NATO reporting name of ''Fresco'', the Chinese name ''Shenyang J-5 (歼-5)'', and the Polish name ''PZL-Mielec Lim-5''.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 2,000 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| 1,097 || 1,061 || 15,500 || 22.2 || 23.2 || 41.2 || 39.1 || 475
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 2,000 m)
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| ? || 1,114 || 15,500 || ??.? || 21.5 || ?.? || 50.0 || 475
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|-
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|}
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====Details====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Features
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|-
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! Combat flap
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! Take-off flap
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! Landing flap
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
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|-
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
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|-
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! +
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! -
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|-
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| 1,150 || 450 || 650 || ~18 || ~8
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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|-
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
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|-
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| < 600 || < 700 || < 750 || > 250
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|-
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 3
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|- -->
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|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 60 mm Bulletproof glass in cockpit front.
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* 16 mm Steel plates behind the pilot.
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* 10 mm Steel plate in the nose.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|N-37D (37 mm)|NR-23 (23 mm)}}
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The {{PAGENAME}} is armed with:
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* 1 x 37 mm N-37D cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
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* 2 x 23 mm NR-23 cannon, nose-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|Bombs|Rockets}}
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* Without load
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* 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250-270 bombs (500 kg total)
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* 16 x S5K rockets
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* 16 x S5M rockets
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* 2 x S21 rockets
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=== Defensive armament ===
 
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== Usage in the battles ==
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The newly gained top speed performance and maneuverbility come at a hefty price. Turn rate and low speed flexibility is gone, due the stronger swept wing design and gained a quarter&middot;tonnes.
  
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== Usage in the battles ==
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Acceleration also takes a hit, especially on take-off the predecessor will rush ahead.
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As some positive characteristics traits of the MiG-15 vanish, some negative aspect vanish. The newly designed tail enables far better control close over Mach 0.8 (it still lacks a flying tail though) and the roll rate also significantly improved. Manual limitation set the airframe at positive 8G, with the increased control the likelihood of over stressing your airframe is easy and a steady hand required in evasive maneuvers.
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===Modules===
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{| class="wikitable"
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!colspan = "1"| Tier
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!colspan = "2"| Flight performance
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!colspan = "1"| Survivability
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!colspan = "3"| Weaponry
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|-
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| I
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| Fuselage Repair
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| Compressor
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|
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| Offensive 23 mm
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|
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| BD-2-48
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|-
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| II
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| New Boosters
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|
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| Airframe
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|
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| Offensive 37 mm
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| S5K
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|-
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| III
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| Wings Repair
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|
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|
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| New 23 mm Cannons
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|
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| S5M
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|-
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| IV
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| G-Suit
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| Engine
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| Cover
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|
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| New 37 mm Cannons
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| S21
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|-
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|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Incredibly fast in a dive.
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* Excellent climb speed, almost same as the [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]]
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* Very good maneuverability at low to medium speeds, also better maneuverability than its predecessor at high speed
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* A brutal beast in 1 vs. 1 combat; near the best in top speed, maneuverability, energy retention, and fast dive-climb
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* Excellent energy retention, but if you turn too hard, expect to lose a few hundred km/h
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* The fastest plane in the game (1,121 km/h at sea level)
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* Can safely reach a speed of 1,150 km/h when diving
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* Unless rolling and pulling up at the same time, its hard to break your wings in turn
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* Similarities with [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]] means the play style between the two are quite similar
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Roll rate is not very good, but its still better than that of the the [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]]
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* Guns are hard to aim and lead due to their relatively low muzzle velocity; small ammo capacity
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* Different trajectory performances between 23 mm and 37 mm; requires experience and practice to use the weapons
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* Poor acceleration in speeds between 800 - 1,100 km/h
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* Engine easily overheats, throttle management necessary
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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The Korean war showed that the MiG-15 and [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]] fighters were able to battle any aerial opponent at least on equal terms. The MiG-17 was a further development of the MiG-15 design that had proven itself so well. It was decided to increase the aircraft’s speed by increasing the sweep of the wing and the fuselage being lengthened to maintain the centre of gravity. The [[MiG-15|MiG-15]] and MiG-17 show almost no differences at first glance. The prototype of the MiG-17 was even called the MiG-15bis45. However, only the frontal parts of the fuselage are the same, from the air intake to the wing, if you don’t count the landing headlight that had been moved to the left wing and some minor details.
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These aircraft are different in every other way. It is easy to see the main differences when you look from above. By comparing the side profiles, you can see that in addition to the difference in fuselage length there are differences in the tail fin and an additional ventral fin which allows you to immediately tell the MiG-17 apart from the MiG-15. The upper part of the fins and the rudders of the aircraft are different, the juncture between the fin and the stabilizer fin also differs, but this can only be seen close up. The wing sweep of the stabilizer fin was also increased and there were also changes to elevators. The air brakes also differ in shape and size. The depth of the housing was decreased, so a cigar-shaped cowl was created to hide the cylinder. There were very significant changes to the wing. Apart from an increased wing sweep, a leading edge break appeared and the tips became rounder, which helps differentiate the aircraft when looking at them from above or below. While the Mig-15 had two aerodynamic ridges on the top surface of its wings, the MiG-17 had three.
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The change in the shape of the wing led to appropriate changes in the construction of the flaps. The new geometry of the main landing gear legs required for the cover to be altered. The structure of the canopy also saw some changes. However, the first versions of the MiG-17 had the same canopies as the [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]]. Apart from changes to the design of the canopy framing (which is not actually that noticeable from afar), a rear-view mirror was introduced that would allow the aircraft to be recognized from further away. There were no significant changes to the cockpit. Overall, the MiG-17 looks even more aesthetically pleasing and streamlined than its predecessor.
  
 
== Media ==
 
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=jet_fighter&vehicle=mig-17 Skins and camouflages for the MiG-17  from live.warthunder]
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* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/857/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> MiG-17]
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* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/144613-hawker-hunter-early-f1-discussion-thread/ WT forum thread]
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{{USSR jet aircrafts}}

Revision as of 23:50, 18 November 2018

MiG-17
mig-17.png
MiG-17
USSR flag.png USSR
VI Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
9.0 8.7 9.0
Class:
Research:160 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:450 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

GarageImage MiG-17.jpg


The MiG-17 is a Rank V Soviet jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0. It was introduced in Update 1.55 "Royal Armour". The MiG-17 is the top-rank aircraft in the Soviet fighter line-up. It is known by many names in the world, with a NATO reporting name of Fresco, the Chinese name Shenyang J-5 (歼-5), and the Polish name PZL-Mielec Lim-5.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 2,000 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1,097 1,061 15,500 22.2 23.2 41.2 39.1 475
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 2,000 m) 		Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ? 1,114 15,500  ??.? 21.5  ?.? 50.0 475

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flap
(km/h) 		Max Static G
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1,150 450 650 ~18 ~8
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< 600 < 700 < 750 > 250
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
 ?,??? m  ??? hp  ?,??? hp

Survivability and armour

  • 60 mm Bulletproof glass in cockpit front.
  • 16 mm Steel plates behind the pilot.
  • 10 mm Steel plate in the nose.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main articles: N-37D (37 mm), NR-23 (23 mm)

The MiG-17 is armed with:

  • 1 x 37 mm N-37D cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
  • 2 x 23 mm NR-23 cannon, nose-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: Bombs, Rockets

The MiG-17 can be outfitted with external ordinance such as:

  • Without load
  • 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250-270 bombs (500 kg total)
  • 16 x S5K rockets
  • 16 x S5M rockets
  • 2 x S21 rockets

Usage in the battles

The newly gained top speed performance and maneuverbility come at a hefty price. Turn rate and low speed flexibility is gone, due the stronger swept wing design and gained a quarter·tonnes.

Acceleration also takes a hit, especially on take-off the predecessor will rush ahead.

As some positive characteristics traits of the MiG-15 vanish, some negative aspect vanish. The newly designed tail enables far better control close over Mach 0.8 (it still lacks a flying tail though) and the roll rate also significantly improved. Manual limitation set the airframe at positive 8G, with the increased control the likelihood of over stressing your airframe is easy and a steady hand required in evasive maneuvers.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Compressor Offensive 23 mm BD-2-48
II New Boosters Airframe Offensive 37 mm S5K
III Wings Repair New 23 mm Cannons S5M
IV G-Suit Engine Cover New 37 mm Cannons S21

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Incredibly fast in a dive.
  • Excellent climb speed, almost same as the MiG-15 bis
  • Very good maneuverability at low to medium speeds, also better maneuverability than its predecessor at high speed
  • A brutal beast in 1 vs. 1 combat; near the best in top speed, maneuverability, energy retention, and fast dive-climb
  • Excellent energy retention, but if you turn too hard, expect to lose a few hundred km/h
  • The fastest plane in the game (1,121 km/h at sea level)
  • Can safely reach a speed of 1,150 km/h when diving
  • Unless rolling and pulling up at the same time, its hard to break your wings in turn
  • Similarities with MiG-15 bis means the play style between the two are quite similar

Cons:

  • Roll rate is not very good, but its still better than that of the the MiG-15 bis
  • Guns are hard to aim and lead due to their relatively low muzzle velocity; small ammo capacity
  • Different trajectory performances between 23 mm and 37 mm; requires experience and practice to use the weapons
  • Poor acceleration in speeds between 800 - 1,100 km/h
  • Engine easily overheats, throttle management necessary

History

The Korean war showed that the MiG-15 and MiG-15 bis fighters were able to battle any aerial opponent at least on equal terms. The MiG-17 was a further development of the MiG-15 design that had proven itself so well. It was decided to increase the aircraft’s speed by increasing the sweep of the wing and the fuselage being lengthened to maintain the centre of gravity. The MiG-15 and MiG-17 show almost no differences at first glance. The prototype of the MiG-17 was even called the MiG-15bis45. However, only the frontal parts of the fuselage are the same, from the air intake to the wing, if you don’t count the landing headlight that had been moved to the left wing and some minor details.

These aircraft are different in every other way. It is easy to see the main differences when you look from above. By comparing the side profiles, you can see that in addition to the difference in fuselage length there are differences in the tail fin and an additional ventral fin which allows you to immediately tell the MiG-17 apart from the MiG-15. The upper part of the fins and the rudders of the aircraft are different, the juncture between the fin and the stabilizer fin also differs, but this can only be seen close up. The wing sweep of the stabilizer fin was also increased and there were also changes to elevators. The air brakes also differ in shape and size. The depth of the housing was decreased, so a cigar-shaped cowl was created to hide the cylinder. There were very significant changes to the wing. Apart from an increased wing sweep, a leading edge break appeared and the tips became rounder, which helps differentiate the aircraft when looking at them from above or below. While the Mig-15 had two aerodynamic ridges on the top surface of its wings, the MiG-17 had three.

The change in the shape of the wing led to appropriate changes in the construction of the flaps. The new geometry of the main landing gear legs required for the cover to be altered. The structure of the canopy also saw some changes. However, the first versions of the MiG-17 had the same canopies as the MiG-15 bis. Apart from changes to the design of the canopy framing (which is not actually that noticeable from afar), a rear-view mirror was introduced that would allow the aircraft to be recognized from further away. There were no significant changes to the cockpit. Overall, the MiG-17 looks even more aesthetically pleasing and streamlined than its predecessor.

Media


Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.


Sources


USSR jet aircraft
Bereznyak-Isayev  BI
Yakovlev  Yak-15 · Yak-15P · Yak-17 · Yak-23 · Yak-28B · Yak-30D · Yak-38 · Yak-38M · Yak-141
Mikoyan-Gurevich  MiG-9 · MiG-9 (l) · MiG-15 · MiG-15bis · MiG-15bis ISh · MiG-17 · MiG-17AS · MiG-19PT
  MiG-21F-13 · MiG-21PFM · MiG-21S (R-13-300) · MiG-21SMT · MiG-21bis
  MiG-23M · MiG-23ML · MiG-23MLD · MiG-27M · MiG-27K
  MiG-29 · MiG-29SMT
Lavochkin  La-174 · La-15 · La-200
Sukhoi  Su-9 · Su-11
  Su-7B · Su-7BKL · Su-7BMK · Su-17M2 · Su-17M4 · Su-22M3
  Su-24M
  Su-25 · Su-25BM · Su-25K · Su-25T · Su-25SM3 · Su-39
  Su-27 · Su-27SM
  Su-34
Ilyushin  IL-28 · IL-28Sh
Tupolev  Tu-14T

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