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The Seafire has an abysmal climb rate, it is also quite slow for a plane at its BR. Side climbing is advised. The turn time is slightly worse than the [[Spitfire LF Mk IX]] but still good enough to outturn most of your foes. The engine overheats rather quickly when using WEP, so avoid prolonged use.
  
 
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The Seafire compared to its opponents and even allies have abysmall climb rate, it is also quite slow for a plane at its BR. Turn time is slightly worse than [[Spitfire LF Mk IX|Spitfire Mk. IX LF]] but still good enough to out turn most of your foes. Side climbing is advised. Engine overheats rather quickly when using WEP, avoid prolonged use.
 
  
 
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=== Modifications and economy ===
 
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{{Specs-Economy}}20 mm ammo belts should be first upgrade to be researched due to very poor stock Hispano belt. After that first cannon upgrade module to reduce spread and overheating, from flight performance upgrades, radiator upgrade advised first due to rather fast overheating of engine while using WEP. After that, it is up to the pilot if they would rather profit from better weapon or flight performance.
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20 mm ammo belts should be the first upgrade to be researched due to the very poor stock belt. After that, research the first cannon upgrade module to reduce spread and overheating. Unlock then flight performance upgrades: radiator first due to the rather fast overheating of the engine when using WEP. After that, it is up to the pilot to decide if they would rather profit from better weaponry or flight performance.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
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* 4 x 7.7 mm Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 1,400 total)
 
* 4 x 7.7 mm Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 1,400 total)
  
The wing-mounted machine guns are very hard to use at distances over 300m due to their placement in wing. Cannons does not have such issue as they are closer to wing root.
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The wing-mounted machine guns are very hard to use at distances over 300 m due to their placement in wing. Cannons does not have such issue as they are closer to the wing roots.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The Seafire LF Mk.III is a jack of all trades, but master of none. The Seafire does not climb well, so after start of battle, pilots should side climb, stay at around 3000 m of altitude and let better climbing team mates tackle the first wave of enemy interceptors, trying to pick off those that managed to dive down. Retaining still a great turning capabilities, the pilot is advised to force enemies into turn fighting where they bleed their energy and became vulnerable. Avoid headons at all cost due to very fragile radiator and engine where even single bullet will take it out.  
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The Seafire LF Mk.III is a jack of all trades, but master of none. The Seafire does not climb well, so after start of battle, pilots should side climb, stay at around 3,000 m of altitude and let better climbing team mates tackle the first wave of enemy interceptors, trying to pick off those that managed to dive down. Retaining still a great turning capabilities, the pilot is advised to force enemies into turn fighting where they bleed their energy and became vulnerable. Avoid head-ons at all cost due to very fragile radiator and engine where even single bullet will take it out.  
  
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
  
 
* Great sustainable turn rate
 
* Great sustainable turn rate
 
* Quite strong armament
 
* Quite strong armament
 
* Clear visibility from cockpit with no frames obstructing view
 
* Clear visibility from cockpit with no frames obstructing view
 
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'''Cons:'''  
 
'''Cons:'''  
  
* Abysmall climb rate
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* Abysmal climb rate
 
* Low max speed compared to opponents
 
* Low max speed compared to opponents
 
* Very fragile vital components
 
* Very fragile vital components
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==

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▄Seafire LF Mk.III
▄Seafire LF Mk.III

Description

The ▄Seafire LF Mk.III is a rank French fighter with a battle rating of (AB), (RB), and (SB). It was introduced in Update "Winged Lions".

The Seafire LF Mk.III was developed from the previous Seafire Mk.IIc which was a navalized version of a Spitfire Mk. Vc with modifications for carrier operations. France bought 141 Seafire LF Mk.III after the war and they saw combat above Indochina.

General info

Flight performance

The Seafire has an abysmal climb rate, it is also quite slow for a plane at its BR. Side climbing is advised. The turn time is slightly worse than the Spitfire LF Mk IX but still good enough to outturn most of your foes. The engine overheats rather quickly when using WEP, so avoid prolonged use.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 3,963 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 561 541 17.2 17.8 14.6 14.6 340
Upgraded 627 592 15.7 16.2 26.9 19.5

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
N/A N/A 230 ~10 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 321 < 400 < 350 > 500

Survivability and armour

Armour plates
  • 7 mm steel plate behind the 4 mm steel pilot seat
  • 6 mm steel headrest
  • 38 mm front armoured glass
  • 3 mm steel plate protecting liquid cooling system
  • 3 mm steel boxes protecting magazines in wings
Modules
  • Vital components located at front of the aircraft (engine, fuel tank, pilot, radiator)
  • One self-sealing fuel tank, one non self-sealing located above each other in front of the cockpit

Modifications and economy

20 mm ammo belts should be the first upgrade to be researched due to the very poor stock belt. After that, research the first cannon upgrade module to reduce spread and overheating. Unlock then flight performance upgrades: radiator first due to the rather fast overheating of the engine when using WEP. After that, it is up to the pilot to decide if they would rather profit from better weaponry or flight performance.

Armaments

Offensive armament

The Seafire LF Mk.III (France) is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannons, wing-mounted (120 rpg = 240 total)
  • 4 x 7.7 mm Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 1,400 total)

The wing-mounted machine guns are very hard to use at distances over 300 m due to their placement in wing. Cannons does not have such issue as they are closer to the wing roots.

Usage in battles

The Seafire LF Mk.III is a jack of all trades, but master of none. The Seafire does not climb well, so after start of battle, pilots should side climb, stay at around 3,000 m of altitude and let better climbing team mates tackle the first wave of enemy interceptors, trying to pick off those that managed to dive down. Retaining still a great turning capabilities, the pilot is advised to force enemies into turn fighting where they bleed their energy and became vulnerable. Avoid head-ons at all cost due to very fragile radiator and engine where even single bullet will take it out.

Notable enemies

  • Bf-109
  • Fw-190
  • A6M series
  • P-47 Thunderbolt
  • Yak-3/9
  • La-7
  • Ki-84

All the enemies in the list above can outclimb you, and with the exception of A6M also outrun. With the exception of A6M, all of those can be out turned by the Seafire in a horizontal engagement.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Great sustainable turn rate
  • Quite strong armament
  • Clear visibility from cockpit with no frames obstructing view

Cons:

  • Abysmal climb rate
  • Low max speed compared to opponents
  • Very fragile vital components

History

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Media

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See also

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Belgium  ▄Gladiator Mk I · ▄Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
Netherlands  ◘Sea Fury FB 51