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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]].
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Towards the end of the Second World War, the USSR quickly began pursuing multiple jet-powered fighter projects to catch up to the western [[Meteor (Family)|Gloster Meteor]], [[Me 262 (Family)|Me-262]], and [[F-80A-5|F-80]]. One such project was "Aircraft K" from the Sukhoi design bureau, which was heavily influenced by captured German designs (namely the Me 262). The aircraft was originally conceived to use the new and upcoming indigenous Soviet jet engines being designed by Lyulka and Tumansky, however, due to setbacks on those programs, the aircraft plan was changed to instead use reverse engineered copies of the German Jumo-004 engine. The aircraft would bear the shape of the Me 262, but in reality, was almost completely different, having different weight distributions, wing design, tailplane shapes, and more importantly, a completely revised flap and airbrake system. This aircraft, now called the "Sukhoi Su-9", would finally fly in 1946 for the first time, where it was quickly revealed that the German engines were rather underpowered. The Lyulka TR-1 engines originally intended for the plane would finally be completed, however, it was revealed that mounting them required extensive redesign of the aircraft, which directly resulted in the [[Su-11]] prototype.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. It is probably one of the better Soviet starter jets, as unlike the MiG-9, it is very forgiving in terms of manoeuvrability, and unlike the Yak-15, it is not limited by its low ammo count and top speed. The low velocity guns will take time getting used to, especially for players new to Soviet jets, but getting acquainted with the twin 23 mm and single 37 mm combo will prove fruitious as most Soviet jets for this rank and the next will have some variation of the same gun setup. All in all, the Su-9 acts as a great stepping stone from the propeller aircraft into the jet age of Soviet aircraft.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 558 || 529 || 380 || ~12 || ~4
 
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
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| < 480 || < 580 || < 660 || N/A
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==== Engine performance ====
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! colspan="3" | Engine
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! colspan="6" | Aircraft mass
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
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| colspan="2" | Klimov RD-10 || 2
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| colspan="3" | 4,175 kg || colspan="3" | 288 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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! colspan="5" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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! 15m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 50m fuel
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| 760 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
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| 4,729 kg || 4,904 kg || 5,268 kg || 5,815 kg || 6,021 kg || 6,520 kg
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="6" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! 15m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 50m fuel || MTOW
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| ''Stationary'' || 874 kgf || N/A
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| 0.37 || 0.36 || 0.33 || 0.30 || 0.29 || 0.27
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| ''Optimal'' || 874 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || N/A
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| 0.37 || 0.36 || 0.33 || 0.30 || 0.29 || 0.27
 
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{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 
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* 6 mm steel above pilot's head
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* 12 mm steel headrest
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* 12 mm steel behind pilot
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* 15 mm steel behind frontal fuel tank
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* 15 mm steel in front of armament
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* 90 mm bulletproof glass in front of pilot
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* Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 cleaver-shaped one behind pilot, 1 cleaver-shaped one in front of pilot)
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
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* 1 x 37 mm N-37 cannon, nose-mounted (30 rpg)
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* 1 x 37 mm N-37 cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
 
* 2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 200 total)
 
* 2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 200 total)
  
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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This plane has a very poor stock performance, but it's performance grows through upgrades. For the pilots here who already flew the Kikka, this plane has a very similar playstyle (Boom'N'Zoom) mixed with some Turn'N'Burn (where you build speed, and then burn your speed in one turn to engage 1 single target)
 
  
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=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Air RB'''
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- Decent dive speed for a 7.0 jet
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This plane has great firepower but always watch the ammo count so you won't run out of bullets. The plane has 90 mm of bulletproof glass in front of the pilot, so your pilot has a high chance of survival in head-ons. Once the plane gets up to speed, it becomes a great bomber hunter. Keep in mind that this plane has a slow acceleration. Use HE belt or air targets belt as it will shred enemy aircraft in pieces with just a few well-aimed shots. [[Boom & Run]] tactics are recommended against fighters, but make sure you have some speed before attacking.
  
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- BR of 7.0, means it can face late props
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'''Ground RB'''
  
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- Decent acceleration when spaded
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The Su-9 is capable of destroying ground targets with its suspended armament. When dive bombing, don't pull out too late as the engines aren't that powerful. It is possible to destroy some light and medium tanks with the right ammunition belt. For destroying tanks, top-down approaches are heavily recommended.
  
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- Good high speed controlling
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=== Pros and cons ===
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- MiG gun setting famous for inflicting high damage in one short close range burst
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'''Pros:'''
  
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* Powerful offensive armament
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* Airbrakes
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* Bomb options
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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- Very sluggish when stock.
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* Bad acceleration and bad climb rate
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* Low ammunition count
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- MiG gun setting famous for being innacurate at ranges beyond 600 m
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* Very sluggish with suspended armament
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- Poor low speed controlling
 
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== History ==
 
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=su-9 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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{{Youtube-gallery|ExA9b4wexHE|'''The Shooting Range #249''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:25 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
  
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* [[Su-11]]
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
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{{AirManufacturer Sukhoi}}
 
{{USSR jet aircraft}}
 
{{USSR jet aircraft}}

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Su-9

Description

Towards the end of the Second World War, the USSR quickly began pursuing multiple jet-powered fighter projects to catch up to the western Gloster Meteor, Me-262, and F-80. One such project was "Aircraft K" from the Sukhoi design bureau, which was heavily influenced by captured German designs (namely the Me 262). The aircraft was originally conceived to use the new and upcoming indigenous Soviet jet engines being designed by Lyulka and Tumansky, however, due to setbacks on those programs, the aircraft plan was changed to instead use reverse engineered copies of the German Jumo-004 engine. The aircraft would bear the shape of the Me 262, but in reality, was almost completely different, having different weight distributions, wing design, tailplane shapes, and more importantly, a completely revised flap and airbrake system. This aircraft, now called the "Sukhoi Su-9", would finally fly in 1946 for the first time, where it was quickly revealed that the German engines were rather underpowered. The Lyulka TR-1 engines originally intended for the plane would finally be completed, however, it was revealed that mounting them required extensive redesign of the aircraft, which directly resulted in the Su-11 prototype.

The Su-9 was introduced in Update "Ixwa Strike". It is probably one of the better Soviet starter jets, as unlike the MiG-9, it is very forgiving in terms of manoeuvrability, and unlike the Yak-15, it is not limited by its low ammo count and top speed. The low velocity guns will take time getting used to, especially for players new to Soviet jets, but getting acquainted with the twin 23 mm and single 37 mm combo will prove fruitious as most Soviet jets for this rank and the next will have some variation of the same gun setup. All in all, the Su-9 acts as a great stepping stone from the propeller aircraft into the jet age of Soviet aircraft.

General info

Flight performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 6,000 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 855 818 29.4 31.0 15.7 15.7 1,000
Upgraded 927 886 28.8 29.0 27.4 21.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
558 529 380 ~12 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 480 < 580 < 660 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Klimov RD-10 2 4,175 kg 288 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 15m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 50m fuel
760 kg Axial-flow turbojet 4,729 kg 4,904 kg 5,268 kg 5,815 kg 6,021 kg 6,520 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 15m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 50m fuel MTOW
Stationary 874 kgf N/A 0.37 0.36 0.33 0.30 0.29 0.27
Optimal 874 kgf
(0 km/h) 		N/A 0.37 0.36 0.33 0.30 0.29 0.27

Survivability and armour

  • 6 mm steel above pilot's head
  • 12 mm steel headrest
  • 12 mm steel behind pilot
  • 15 mm steel behind frontal fuel tank
  • 15 mm steel in front of armament
  • 90 mm bulletproof glass in front of pilot
  • Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 cleaver-shaped one behind pilot, 1 cleaver-shaped one in front of pilot)

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main articles: N-37 (37 mm), NS-23 (23 mm)

The Su-9 is armed with:

  • 1 x 37 mm N-37 cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
  • 2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 200 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: FAB-250M-46 (250 kg), FAB-500M-46 (500 kg)

The Su-9 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 1 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bomb (250 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bombs (500 kg total)
  • 1 x 500 kg FAB-500M-46 bomb (500 kg total)

Usage in battles

Air RB

This plane has great firepower but always watch the ammo count so you won't run out of bullets. The plane has 90 mm of bulletproof glass in front of the pilot, so your pilot has a high chance of survival in head-ons. Once the plane gets up to speed, it becomes a great bomber hunter. Keep in mind that this plane has a slow acceleration. Use HE belt or air targets belt as it will shred enemy aircraft in pieces with just a few well-aimed shots. Boom & Run tactics are recommended against fighters, but make sure you have some speed before attacking.

Ground RB

The Su-9 is capable of destroying ground targets with its suspended armament. When dive bombing, don't pull out too late as the engines aren't that powerful. It is possible to destroy some light and medium tanks with the right ammunition belt. For destroying tanks, top-down approaches are heavily recommended.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful offensive armament
  • Airbrakes
  • Bomb options

Cons:

  • Bad acceleration and bad climb rate
  • Low ammunition count
  • Very sluggish with suspended armament

History

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Media

Skins
Videos
The Shooting Range #249 - Pages of History section at 04:25 discusses the Su-9.

See also

External links


Sukhoi Design Bureau (Сухого Опытное конструкторское бюро)
Jet fighters  Su-9 · Su-11
Su-27  Su-27 · Su-27SM
Strike aircraft 
Su-2  BB-1 · Su-2 (M-82) · Su-2 MV-5 · Su-2 TSS-1
Su-6  Su-6 · Su-6 (AM-42) · Su-6 (M-71F)
Su-7  Su-7B · Su-7BKL · Su-7BMK
Su-8  Su-8
Su-17  Su-17M2 · Su-17M4 · Su-22M3
Su-24  Su-24M
Su-25  Su-25 · Su-25BM · Su-25K · Su-25T · Su-25SM3 · Su-39
Su-34  Su-34
Export  ◊Su-22UM3K · ◔Su-22M3 · ◊Su-22M4 · ◄Su-22M4 WTD61
  J-11*
  *CKD and SKD kits assembled by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation

USSR jet aircraft
Bereznyak-Isayev  BI
Yakovlev  Yak-15 · Yak-15P · Yak-17 · Yak-23 · Yak-28B · Yak-30D · Yak-38 · Yak-38M · Yak-141
Mikoyan-Gurevich  MiG-9 · MiG-9 (l) · MiG-15 · MiG-15bis · MiG-15bis ISh · MiG-17 · MiG-17AS · MiG-19PT
  MiG-21F-13 · MiG-21PFM · MiG-21S (R-13-300) · MiG-21SMT · MiG-21bis
  MiG-23M · MiG-23ML · MiG-23MLD · MiG-27M · MiG-27K
  MiG-29 · MiG-29SMT
Lavochkin  La-174 · La-15 · La-200
Sukhoi  Su-9 · Su-11
  Su-7B · Su-7BKL · Su-7BMK · Su-17M2 · Su-17M4 · Su-22M3
  Su-24M
  Su-25 · Su-25BM · Su-25K · Su-25T · Su-25SM3 · Su-39
  Su-27 · Su-27SM
  Su-34
Ilyushin  IL-28 · IL-28Sh
Tupolev  Tu-14T

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