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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| − | The '''Model 781''' (also known as the '''Nexter 30''') is a 30 mm revolver cannon with electrical ignition and automatic | + | The '''Model 781''' (also known as the '''Nexter 30''') is a 30 mm revolver cannon with electrical ignition and automatic recocking, which was introduced in the late 1980s. Unlike the DEFA cannon, the M781 is electrically operated rather than gas operated. This increases both reliability and lifetime of the cannon, but also fire rate. |
There were 2 variants of the GIAT 30 cannon, the M781 and the M791. The Model 781 was primarily meant to be mounted on helicopters, such as the [[EC-665 Tiger HAD]], while the latter one being intended for fighters such as the Dassault Rafale. | There were 2 variants of the GIAT 30 cannon, the M781 and the M791. The Model 781 was primarily meant to be mounted on helicopters, such as the [[EC-665 Tiger HAD]], while the latter one being intended for fighters such as the Dassault Rafale. | ||
[[File:EC Tiger turret.jpg|thumb|500x500px|The turret of an EC-665 Tiger with the M781 autocannon]] | [[File:EC Tiger turret.jpg|thumb|500x500px|The turret of an EC-665 Tiger with the M781 autocannon]] | ||
| − | The M781 is offered in multiple installations, such as being mounted as a turret or as a pod, or just fixed to the vehicle. It is 1 | + | The M781 is offered in multiple installations, such as being mounted as a turret or as a pod, or just fixed to the vehicle. It is 1.87 m long and it weighs roughly 65 kg, and its fire rate is roughly 720 rounds per minute with a muzzle velocity of around 810 m/s. Due to the somewhat heavy recoil of the cannon, single shots or bursts are preferred over fully automatic fire. |
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | === Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | ||
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* {{Specs-Link|tiger_had_france}} | * {{Specs-Link|tiger_had_france}} | ||
| + | * {{Specs-Link|tiger_had_block2_france|EC-665 Tiger HAD Block 2}} | ||
* {{Specs-Link|tiger_hap_france}} | * {{Specs-Link|tiger_hap_france}} | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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| − | Due to the M781 being limited to only | + | Due to the M781 being limited to only SAPHEI rounds that have barely any penetration power, it will prove to be inadequate at dispatching hostile tanks. However, soft targets such as open top vehicles or light vehicles (or even aircraft if the user is comfortable with using the M781 for AA purposes), will get shredded in mere seconds by the M781 thanks to its high fire rate and high velocity. |
=== Available ammunition === | === Available ammunition === | ||
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| + | * '''Default:''' {{Annotation|SAPHEI*|Semi armour-piercing high-explosive incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|SAPHEI*|Semi armour-piercing high-explosive incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|SAPHEI*|Semi armour-piercing high-explosive incendiary (self-destroying)}} | ||
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| + | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | ||
| + | ! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt | ||
| + | ! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | ||
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| + | ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | Default || 27 || 25 || 18 || 12 || 8 || 6 | ||
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| + | |} | ||
=== Comparison with analogues === | === Comparison with analogues === | ||
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{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
| − | ! colspan="4" | | + | ! colspan="4" | Comparable autocannons to the M781 |
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!Name!!Year of Production!!RPM!!Maximum Penetration (mm) | !Name!!Year of Production!!RPM!!Maximum Penetration (mm) | ||
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| − | |[[2A42 (30 mm)]]||1973||200 - 300 (Low) | + | |[[2A42 (30 mm)]]||1973||200 - 300 (Low)<br>550 - 800 (High) |
| − | 550 - 800 (High) | ||
|82 | |82 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[M230E-1 (30 mm)]]||1975||625||51 | |[[M230E-1 (30 mm)]]||1975||625||51 | ||
|} | |} | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | As mentioned above, the M781 severely lacks in the penetration power. This makes it very difficult to engage hostile tanks, so the user should be careful about picking out targets if one is equipped only with the cannon. If one is engaging with only the cannon, the user should be very careful about their surroundings and use nearby cover, such as buildings or mountains, to flank around the enemy. Be careful about enemy AA as it will shred the user almost instantly if not enough awareness is given to them. If the user manages to flank the enemy, they should focus on dispatching soft targets such as enemy light tanks or AA vehicles if they are caught off-guard. | + | As mentioned above, the M781 severely lacks in the penetration power. This makes it very difficult to engage hostile tanks, so the user should be careful about picking out targets if one is equipped only with the cannon. If one is engaging with only the cannon, the user should be very careful about their surroundings and use nearby cover, such as buildings or mountains, to flank around the enemy. Be careful about enemy AA as it will shred the user almost instantly if not enough awareness is given to them. If the user manages to flank the enemy, they should focus on dispatching soft targets such as enemy light tanks or AA vehicles if they are caught off-guard. |
| − | The other way of using the M781 is to be a "support" for your teammates. Due to the M781's low penetration but high explosion power | + | The other way of using the M781 is to be a "support" for your teammates. Due to the M781's low penetration but high explosion power SAPHEI rounds, one can use this to cripple the tanks, which would otherwise shrug off the SAPHEI rounds, by destroying the modules such as the tracks. This way, you can save your teammates from an imminent destruction and even score yourself an assist. |
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
| − | * High fire rate; being | + | * High fire rate; being 720 RPM |
* High velocity of rounds | * High velocity of rounds | ||
| − | * | + | * SAPHEI rounds shred soft targets and aircraft alike |
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
| − | * Restricted to only | + | * Restricted to only SAPHEI rounds; engaging armour will be difficult |
* Thanks to its fire rate and relatively low ammo capacity, it isn't uncommon to run out of rounds rather quickly | * Thanks to its fire rate and relatively low ammo capacity, it isn't uncommon to run out of rounds rather quickly | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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== Media == | == Media == | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
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* [[2A42 (30 mm)]] - An autocannon mounted on the Mi-28N | * [[2A42 (30 mm)]] - An autocannon mounted on the Mi-28N | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
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| − | * [http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3588.html <nowiki>[army-guide.com] M781</nowiki>] | + | * [http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3588.html <nowiki>[army-guide.com] M781</nowiki>] |
* [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexter_30 <nowiki>[fr.wikipedia.org] M781 (Nexter 30)</nowiki>] | * [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexter_30 <nowiki>[fr.wikipedia.org] M781 (Nexter 30)</nowiki>] | ||
Latest revision as of 14:34, 13 March 2024
Contents
Description
The Model 781 (also known as the Nexter 30) is a 30 mm revolver cannon with electrical ignition and automatic recocking, which was introduced in the late 1980s. Unlike the DEFA cannon, the M781 is electrically operated rather than gas operated. This increases both reliability and lifetime of the cannon, but also fire rate.
There were 2 variants of the GIAT 30 cannon, the M781 and the M791. The Model 781 was primarily meant to be mounted on helicopters, such as the EC-665 Tiger HAD, while the latter one being intended for fighters such as the Dassault Rafale.
The M781 is offered in multiple installations, such as being mounted as a turret or as a pod, or just fixed to the vehicle. It is 1.87 m long and it weighs roughly 65 kg, and its fire rate is roughly 720 rounds per minute with a muzzle velocity of around 810 m/s. Due to the somewhat heavy recoil of the cannon, single shots or bursts are preferred over fully automatic fire.
Vehicles equipped with this weapon
General info
Due to the M781 being limited to only SAPHEI rounds that have barely any penetration power, it will prove to be inadequate at dispatching hostile tanks. However, soft targets such as open top vehicles or light vehicles (or even aircraft if the user is comfortable with using the M781 for AA purposes), will get shredded in mere seconds by the M781 thanks to its high fire rate and high velocity.
Available ammunition
- Default: SAPHEI* · SAPHEI* · SAPHEI*
| Penetration statistics | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Belt | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | |
| Default | 27 | 25 | 18 | 12 | 8 | 6 |
Comparison with analogues
| Comparable autocannons to the M781 | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Year of Production | RPM | Maximum Penetration (mm) |
| 2A42 (30 mm) | 1973 | 200 - 300 (Low) 550 - 800 (High) |
82 |
| M230E-1 (30 mm) | 1975 | 625 | 51 |
Usage in battles
As mentioned above, the M781 severely lacks in the penetration power. This makes it very difficult to engage hostile tanks, so the user should be careful about picking out targets if one is equipped only with the cannon. If one is engaging with only the cannon, the user should be very careful about their surroundings and use nearby cover, such as buildings or mountains, to flank around the enemy. Be careful about enemy AA as it will shred the user almost instantly if not enough awareness is given to them. If the user manages to flank the enemy, they should focus on dispatching soft targets such as enemy light tanks or AA vehicles if they are caught off-guard.
The other way of using the M781 is to be a "support" for your teammates. Due to the M781's low penetration but high explosion power SAPHEI rounds, one can use this to cripple the tanks, which would otherwise shrug off the SAPHEI rounds, by destroying the modules such as the tracks. This way, you can save your teammates from an imminent destruction and even score yourself an assist.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- High fire rate; being 720 RPM
- High velocity of rounds
- SAPHEI rounds shred soft targets and aircraft alike
Cons:
- Restricted to only SAPHEI rounds; engaging armour will be difficult
- Thanks to its fire rate and relatively low ammo capacity, it isn't uncommon to run out of rounds rather quickly
History
Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />.
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
- 2A42 (30 mm) - An autocannon mounted on the Mi-28N
- M230E-1 (30 mm) - An autocannon mounted on the AH-64 series of helicopters
External links
| France aircraft cannons | |
|---|---|
| 20 mm | GIAT M.621 · Hispano 404 · Hispano HS.9 · M50 |
| 30 mm | DEFA 541 · DEFA 551 · DEFA 552 · DEFA 552A · DEFA 553 · DEFA 554 · GIAT M781 |
| Foreign: | |
| 20 mm | AN/M2 (USA) · Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 (USA) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · Hispano Mk.V (Britain) · M3 (USA) · M24A1 (USA) · M39A1 (USA) · M61A1 (USA) · MG 151 (Germany) · ShVAK (USSR) |
| 30 mm | ADEN (Britain) |
| 37 mm | M4 (USA) · M10 (USA) · NS-37 (USSR) |
