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== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. A pre-production version of the [[M.S.406C1]], the M.S.405C1 is very similar to the succeeding aircraft.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} French fighter {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. A pre-production version of the [[M.S.406C1]], the M.S.405C1 is nearly identical to the succeeding aircraft while having a lower battle-rating.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
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{{main|Hispano 404 (20 mm)|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
 
{{main|Hispano 404 (20 mm)|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
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* 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon (60 rpg = 60 total)
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* 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, nose-mounted (60 rpg)
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* 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns (300 rpg = 600 total)
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* 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)
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=== Defensive armament ===
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The M.S.405C1 is a respectable low rank monoplane that primarily suffers from a low ammo count for its armament, with only 60 rounds for its nose mounted 20 mm cannon and 300 rounds per gun for its two wing mounted rifle-calibre machine guns. This means that while it is a good turner, players flying the M.S.405C1 should engage in turn fights in arcade battles sparingly and with allies nearby, as it will need to disengage frequently to reload. Stick to high altitudes and prey on bombers or dive on unsuspecting fighters, especially reserve aircraft and biplanes which are a common sight at this BR and offer little resistance against the Hispano 404 cannon.
  
 
Players flying the M.S.405C1 should be on the lookout for and take care in engaging faster monoplanes such as the [[Bf 109 E-1]], which can handily out-climb the M.S.405C1 and also has significantly higher ammo capacities for its guns.
 
Players flying the M.S.405C1 should be on the lookout for and take care in engaging faster monoplanes such as the [[Bf 109 E-1]], which can handily out-climb the M.S.405C1 and also has significantly higher ammo capacities for its guns.
  
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* No armour or self-sealing fuel tanks
 
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* No combat flaps, only landing flaps
 
* No combat flaps, only landing flaps
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== History ==
 
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[https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/782 War Thunder Changelog #782 - M.S.405C1]
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ms_405c1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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{{Youtube-gallery|8tk5v22dNgs|'''Community Choice, MS 405C1 Fully Uptiered, and doing well!''' - ''Joseph 2000''|dY6nG_HYwHQ|'''Realistic: MS.405C1 [Early French Beast!!]''' - ''Jengar''}}
  
 
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* [[M.S.406C1]]
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* [[M.S.410]]
  
 
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* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/392581-ms405c-1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
  
 
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Latest revision as of 19:48, 25 May 2022

M.S.405C1
ms_405c1.png
GarageImage M.S.405C1.jpg
ArtImage M.S.405C1.png
M.S.405C1
France flag.png France
I Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
2.0 2.0 1.7
Class:
Research:4 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:2 100 Specs-Card-Lion.png
Show in game

Description

The M.S.405C1 is a rank I French fighter with a battle rating of 2.0 (AB/RB) and 1.7 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". A pre-production version of the M.S.406C1, the M.S.405C1 is very similar to the succeeding aircraft.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 3 200 m475 km/h
Turn time19 s
Max altitude9 800 m
EngineHispano-Suiza 12Ycrs
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight3 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 3,200 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 457 444 9800 20.3 21.0 10.8 10.8 300
Upgraded 495 475 18.5 19.4 16.8 13.5

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
756 320 N/A N/A 270 ~14 ~9
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 310 < 320 < 330 > 330

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural756 km/h
Gear320 km/h
  • No armour plating
  • No armour glazing
  • Critical components located at front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB156 → 212 Sl icon.png
RB333 → 452 Sl icon.png
SB325 → 441 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications4 440 Rp icon.png
2 680 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost300 Ge icon.png
Crew training600 Sl icon.png
Experts2 100 Sl icon.png
Aces45 Ge icon.png
Research Aces110 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
10 / 30 / 70 % Sl icon.png
100 / 100 / 100 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
180 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
180 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
220 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
220 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
360 Rp icon.png
Cost:
220 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
360 Rp icon.png
Cost:
220 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS(a)
Research:
360 Rp icon.png
Cost:
220 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
7_5mm_belt_pack
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
180 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mac39_new_gun
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
hispano_belt_pack
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
220 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
hispano_404_new_gun
Research:
360 Rp icon.png
Cost:
220 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 120 mm Hispano 404 cannon
Ammunition60 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min
Weapon 22 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun
Ammunition600 rounds
Fire rate1 350 shots/min
Main articles: Hispano 404 (20 mm), MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)

The M.S.405C1 is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, nose-mounted (60 rpg)
  • 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)

Usage in battles

The M.S.405C1 is a respectable low rank monoplane that primarily suffers from a low ammo count for its armament, with only 60 rounds for its nose mounted 20 mm cannon and 300 rounds per gun for its two wing mounted rifle-calibre machine guns. This means that while it is a good turner, players flying the M.S.405C1 should engage in turn fights in arcade battles sparingly and with allies nearby, as it will need to disengage frequently to reload. Stick to high altitudes and prey on bombers or dive on unsuspecting fighters, especially reserve aircraft and biplanes which are a common sight at this BR and offer little resistance against the Hispano 404 cannon.

Players flying the M.S.405C1 should be on the lookout for and take care in engaging faster monoplanes such as the Bf 109 E-1, which can handily out-climb the M.S.405C1 and also has significantly higher ammo capacities for its guns.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Auto control available 		Not controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Combined Not controllable
1 gear 		Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Can fight against reserve planes, which are easy pickings for its nose mounted cannon
  • Provides players with good first experience for the M.S. line
  • Virtually identical to the succeeding M.S.406C1 for an easy transition
  • Very sturdy structure, can sustain 700 km/h IAS in a dive
  • Good turn fighter among monoplanes at its rank

Cons:

  • Both the cannon and the 7.5 mm machine guns have very low ammo count
  • The wing mounted 7.5 mm machine guns are lousy once the cannon is depleted
  • No armour or self-sealing fuel tanks
  • No combat flaps, only landing flaps

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins
Videos
Community Choice, MS 405C1 Fully Uptiered, and doing well! - Joseph 2000
Realistic: MS.405C1 [Early French Beast!!] - Jengar

See also

Related development

External links


Morane-Saulnier Aeroplanes (Aéroplanes Morane-Saulnier)
Fighters  M.S.405C1
  M.S.406C1
  M.S.410
See Also  Valtion Lentokonetehdas

France fighters
Dewoitine  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520
Morane-Saulnier  M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410
Arsenal  V.G.33C-1
Bloch  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Caudron  C.R.714
Sud-Ouest  S.O.8000 Narval
American  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA
  ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B
Other countries  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900
Belgium  ▄Gladiator Mk I · ▄Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
Netherlands  ◘Sea Fury FB 51

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