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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''Potez 633''' was the light bomber variant of the Potez 63 family of aircraft. It had a two man configuration, with a pilot and rear gunner. The aircraft proved to be relatively ineffective as a bomber in the Battle of France, suffering heavy losses due to enemy air superiority and the mediocre speed of the Potez 633, a problem shared with its interceptor counterparts, the [[Potez 630]] and [[Potez 631|631]]. While other nations such as China, Romania, and Greece also used the Potez, not all of them were delivered due to a French embargo on army equipment and other military assets in June 1939. The aircraft also served with Vichy France, although relegated to second line service.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French frontline bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
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Introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]], the {{Specs|name}} lacks the 20 mm cannons and additional 7.5 mm MGs for offensive armament compared to the Potez 630 and 631, instead having a single 7.5 mm MG mounted in the nose. The aircraft has adequate ordnance for a light bomber of its BR, being capable of carrying a total of 400 kg of bombs in the form of eight 50 kg or two 200 kg bombs. The 200 kg bombs are the most adequate for dealing with ground targets, and can be used with good results in ground battles against light tanks. It should be noted that the Potez is particularly weak against SPAA due to its low speed and large size when compared to biplanes or ground attackers.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* No armour glazing
 
* No armour glazing
 
* Critical components located in front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
 
* Critical components located in front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
 
{{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
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=== Suspended armament ===
 
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{{main|G.A. MMN. 50 (50 kg)|No.1 (100 kg)|No.1 (200 kg)}}
 
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=== Defensive armament ===
 
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{{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The 633's light bomb load (when compared to the Farman monsters that preceded it) makes this aircraft much more dependent on skill when dropping ordnance. When facing light vehicles, the 8x50kg load is particularly useful, allowing you to tag along with the larger bombers and clean up after their pass. Use the 7.5mm MG in the nose to clean up any stray SPAA trucks in your path... a short burst will usually be rewarded with a kill. Use the bombs on anything else that moves.
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The Potez 633's light bomb load (when compared to the Farman monsters that preceded it) makes this aircraft much more dependent on skill when dropping ordnance. When facing light vehicles, the 8x50kg load is particularly useful, allowing you to tag along with the larger bombers and clean up after their pass. Use the 7.5 mm MG in the nose to clean up any stray SPAA trucks in your path... A short burst will usually be rewarded with a kill. Use the bombs on anything else that moves.
  
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The 633 is also not as agile as other twin-engine aircraft its size, avoid turn fighting no matter how tempting. Just make a quick snapshot at passing fighters as they cross your path and keep moving to your next target. Keep an eye on your six, the rear gunner with the 7.5 mm MAC machinegun may deter lighter aircraft like Reserve fighters, but any rank II fighter which winds up on your tail usually means a one-way ticket to the ground in a heap unless a teammate is nearby who can help.
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The 633 is also not as agile as other twin-engine aircraft its size, avoid turn fighting no matter how tempting. Just make a quick snapshot at passing fighters as they cross your path and keep moving to your next target. Keep an eye on your six, the rear gunner with the 7.5 mm MAC machine gun may deter lighter aircraft like Reserve fighters, but any rank II fighter which winds up on your tail usually means a one-way ticket to the ground in a heap unless a teammate is nearby who can help.
  
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
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* Has offensive armament unlike most other bombers
 
* Has offensive armament unlike most other bombers
 
* Relatively tough due to very slim airframe, deflects bullets easily from behind
 
* Relatively tough due to very slim airframe, deflects bullets easily from behind
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* Easy to fly
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'''Cons:'''
 
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* [[File:Germany flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Do 17 (Family)]]
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* [[File:Germany flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Ju 88 (Family)]]
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* [[File:IJA flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Ki-48-II otsu]]
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* [[File:Britain flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Blenheim Mk IV]]
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* [[File:USSR flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Yak-4]]
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Latest revision as of 04:31, 10 November 2024

Introducing Wiki 3.0
This page is about the French bomber Potez 633. For other versions, see Potez 630 and Potez 631.
Potez 633
potez_633.png
GarageImage Potez 633.jpg
ArtImage Potez 633.jpg
Potez 633
France flag.png France
I Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
1.3 1.7 1.7
Class:
Research:2 900 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:700 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

The Potez 633 was the light bomber variant of the Potez 63 family of aircraft. It had a two man configuration, with a pilot and rear gunner. The aircraft proved to be relatively ineffective as a bomber in the Battle of France, suffering heavy losses due to enemy air superiority and the mediocre speed of the Potez 633, a problem shared with its interceptor counterparts, the Potez 630 and 631. While other nations such as China, Romania, and Greece also used the Potez, not all of them were delivered due to a French embargo on army equipment and other military assets in June 1939. The aircraft also served with Vichy France, although relegated to second line service.

Introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France", the Potez 633 lacks the 20 mm cannons and additional 7.5 mm MGs for offensive armament compared to the Potez 630 and 631, instead having a single 7.5 mm MG mounted in the nose. The aircraft has adequate ordnance for a light bomber of its BR, being capable of carrying a total of 400 kg of bombs in the form of eight 50 kg or two 200 kg bombs. The 200 kg bombs are the most adequate for dealing with ground targets, and can be used with good results in ground battles against light tanks. It should be noted that the Potez is particularly weak against SPAA due to its low speed and large size when compared to biplanes or ground attackers.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 4 000 m440 km/h
Turn time20 s
Max altitude9 500 m
Engine2 х Gnome Rhone 14M-6
TypeRadial
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight5 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 4,000 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 421 403 9500 21.2 22.3 4.4 4.2 350
Upgraded 462 440 18.9 20.0 10.9 7.3

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
710 295 346 329 240 ~10 ~7
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 360 < 360 < 330 > 320

Survivability and armour

Crew2 people
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear295 km/h
  • No armour plating
  • No armour glazing
  • Critical components located in front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB109 → 147 Sl icon.png
RB154 → 208 Sl icon.png
SB195 → 263 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications2 985 Rp icon.png
905 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost190 Ge icon.png
Crew training200 Sl icon.png
Experts1 000 Sl icon.png
Aces20 Ge icon.png
Research Aces96 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
20 / 30 / 50 % Sl icon.png
100 / 100 / 100 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
165 Rp icon.png
Cost:
50 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
165 Rp icon.png
Cost:
50 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
75 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
75 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
195 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
195 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
195 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
7_5mm_belt_pack
Research:
200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mac39_new_gun
Research:
165 Rp icon.png
Cost:
50 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
100 GPs
Research:
165 Rp icon.png
Cost:
50 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods ammo.png
7_5mm_turret_belt_pack
Research:
250 Rp icon.png
Cost:
75 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods turret gun.png
mac39_turret_new_gun
Research:
195 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
200 GPs
Research:
195 Rp icon.png
Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 17.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun
Ammunition500 rounds
Fire rate1 350 shots/min
Main article: MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)

The Potez 633 is armed with:

  • 1 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun, nose-mounted (500 rpg)

Suspended armament

List of setups (3)
Setup 18 x 50 kg G.A. MMN. 50
Setup 22 x 100 kg No.1
Setup 32 x 200 kg No.1
Main articles: G.A. MMN. 50 (50 kg), No.1 (100 kg), No.1 (200 kg)

The Potez 633 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 8 x 50 kg G.A. MMN. 50 bombs (400 kg total)
  • 2 x 100 kg No.1 bombs (200 kg total)
  • 2 x 200 kg No.1 bombs (400 kg total)

Defensive armament

Turret7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun
Ammunition1000 rounds
Fire rate1350 shots/min
Main article: MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)

The Potez 633 is defended by:

  • 1 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun, dorsal turret (1,000 rpg)

Usage in battles

The Potez 633's light bomb load (when compared to the Farman monsters that preceded it) makes this aircraft much more dependent on skill when dropping ordnance. When facing light vehicles, the 8x50kg load is particularly useful, allowing you to tag along with the larger bombers and clean up after their pass. Use the 7.5 mm MG in the nose to clean up any stray SPAA trucks in your path... A short burst will usually be rewarded with a kill. Use the bombs on anything else that moves.

The 633 is also not as agile as other twin-engine aircraft its size, avoid turn fighting no matter how tempting. Just make a quick snapshot at passing fighters as they cross your path and keep moving to your next target. Keep an eye on your six, the rear gunner with the 7.5 mm MAC machine gun may deter lighter aircraft like Reserve fighters, but any rank II fighter which winds up on your tail usually means a one-way ticket to the ground in a heap unless a teammate is nearby who can help.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Not controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Separate Not controllable
1 gear 		Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Has offensive armament unlike most other bombers
  • Relatively tough due to very slim airframe, deflects bullets easily from behind
  • Surprisingly decent energy retention
  • Bomb load good for taking out armored cars and vehicle strips
  • Easy to fly
  • Good overall flight characteristics

Cons:

  • Meagre defensive and offensive armament
  • Poor bomb load
  • Both of the above two points makes it difficult to do much damage with this aircraft.
  • Poor manoeuvrability
  • Dorsal gunner has a limited range of motion

History

The Potez 633 was one of the numerous derivatives of the Potez 63. It was a light bomber, and it had a two-man crew: a pilot and a rear gunner. A contract for the production of 115 aircraft was awarded to SNCAN by the French Air Force. In 1938 though, it was decided that the light bombers had to have a crew of three, and the contract was cancelled. Nevertheless, the Potez 633 was offered for export with some success: Greece bought twenty-four aircraft, China bought four, Romania ordered forty and the Swiss air force bought one.

The Munich crisis showed that the French army lacked modern equipment and export war material deliveries were embargoed by the French government in June 1939. The Potez 633 built for export and not yet delivered to their customers were transferred to the French air force. These aircraft were used by ground attack units for pilot training until better aircraft could replace them.

In May 1940, at the moment of the German attack some ground attack units were still equipped with the Potez 633. These aircraft attacked the German columns, suffering heavy losses due to both enemy fighters patrolling the area and anti-aircraft fire from below.

Only thirteen Potez 633s were delivered to the Greek air force before the embargo. They accomplished reconnaissance missions over Albania during the Italian invasion, a few aircraft being downed by Italian fighters. Ultimately, all the remaining Potez were destroyed during the German invasion of Greece.

A total of twenty Potez 633s were delivered to Romania before the June 1939 embargo. These aircraft were reinforced by nine others handed over by Vichy France in 1941. They started their combat operations the day of the Romanian declaration of war to the USSR, in June 1941. The Potez 633s supported the Romanian ground forces, notably during the siege of Odessa and the battle of Stalingrad. In December 1942, the remaining aircraft returned to Romania, and they finished their careers as trainer aircraft for pilots training to be night fighters.

Media

Skins

See also

Related development
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

External links


Potez (SNCAN)
Fighters  Potez 630 · Potez 631
Bombers  Potez 633

France bombers
Farman  F.222.2 · N.C.223.3
Latécoère  Late 298D
Potez  Potez 633
Liore et Olivier  LeO 451 early · LeO 451 late
Bloch  M.B.174A-3 · M.B.162 · M.B.175T
American  V-156-F · Martin 167-A3 · ▄A-35B · ▄SB2C-5 · B-26C · ▄PBY-5A Late · ▄PB4Y-2
British  Lancaster MR.7

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