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{{About
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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In 1949, Canada wanted a new fighter to supplement its growing air force. The F-86 Sabre was a good option, but the Canadian government didn't want to have another American aircraft in service. As a compromise, Canada received a license to build their own Sabres and thus birthed the Canadair Sabre. At first, they were essentially the same as the US F-86A. As development and production continued, Canadair Sabres were growing different and even had their own engine installed, the Avro Orenda jet engine. The Mk5 was powered by the Orenda 10, fitted with a new wing, and other aerodynamic changes. It was close to the US F-86F-30 in terms of performance. During this time, the German Luftwaffe was revived and also looked to purchase modern aircraft. Germany placed an order for over 200 Mk6 Sabres, but as a stop-gap measure, 75 ex-RCAF Mk5 Sabres were also supplied. Many of the Mk5 Sabres were scrapped in 1962.
  
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was introduced in [[Update 1.39]]. The main difference between the CL-13 and the American-built Sabres was the engine. The CL-13A was powered by the Avro Canada Orenda 10 engine, which produced around 2,800 kgf. For comparison, the [[F-86F-40 (Japan)|F-86F-40]] is powered by the General Electric J47-GE-27 engine, which only produced around 2,600 kgf. This provided an 8% increase in thrust and gave it substantially better performance in terms of acceleration, climb rate, and more. Other than that, the '''{{Specs|name}}''' still retained the six nose-mounted 12.7 mm [[M3 Browning (12.7 mm)|M3]] machine guns. It also retains the same suspended armament options of HVAR rockets, 750 lb and 1,000 lb bombs, as the F-86F-30. 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} German jet fighter {{Battle-rating|5}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.39]].
 
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
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| 1,103 || 1,097 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 23.7 || 24.0 || 59.8|| 49.3 || rowspan="2" | 650
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| 1,103 || 1,097 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 24.5 || 25.7 || 39.9 || 36.4 || rowspan="2" | 650
 
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! Upgraded
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====Details====
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==== Details ====
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! colspan="6" | Features
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
! colspan="7" | Limits
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 620 || 620 || 350 || ~12 || ~6
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| 1,170 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 590 || 550 || 350 || ~11 || ~6
 
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
 
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
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| colspan="2" | Avro Canada Orenda 10 || 1
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| colspan="2" | Avro Canada Orenda 10 || 1
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| colspan="2" | 5,330 kg || colspan="2" | 235 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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| colspan="2" | 5,432 kg || colspan="2" | 238 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
 
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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| 1,160 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
 
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| 5,716 kg || 6,412 kg || 6,626 kg || 9,530 kg
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| 5,817 kg || 6,487 kg || 6,716 kg || 9,530 kg
 
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (108%)
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! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 
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| ''Stationary'' || 2,818 kgf || N/A
 
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| 0.49 || 0.44 || 0.43 || 0.30
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| 0.48 || 0.43 || 0.42 || 0.30
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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* 6.35 mm steel - in front of cockpit
 
* 6.35 mm steel - in front of cockpit
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* Engine and fuel tanks take up most of fuselage
 
* Engine and fuel tanks take up most of fuselage
 
* More fuel tanks in wings
 
* More fuel tanks in wings
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
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{{main|Browning M3 (12.7 mm)}}
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{{main|M3 Browning (12.7 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
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* 6 x 12.7 mm Browning M3 machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,800 total)
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* 6 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,800 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
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{{main|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}
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{{main|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}
  
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
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* 16 x 127 mm HVAR rockets
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* 16 x HVAR rockets
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* 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (1,500 lb total)
 
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
 
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  
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== Usage in the battles ==
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Speed is everything. Reach around 1,000 km/h and then 10 to 20 degree climb then level out before dropping below 750 km/h IAS.
  
 
Watch out for planes like F-86F-2 Sabres and Hunters. These two you'll see the most and they will see you as a big threat since you pretty much out-perform them in every aspect. Destroy them before they pose any threat to you.
 
Watch out for planes like F-86F-2 Sabres and Hunters. These two you'll see the most and they will see you as a big threat since you pretty much out-perform them in every aspect. Destroy them before they pose any threat to you.
  
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The CL-13's energy fighting capabilities outperform most if not all enemies of the same BR. Engagements should always occur on your terms, if you are in a bad situation make use of the Mk. 5's acceleration and roll rate to pull away if possible, then re-engage in an advantageous position.  
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The CL-13's energy fighting capabilities outperform most if not all enemies of the same BR. Engagements should always occur on your terms, if you are in a bad situation make use of the Mk. 5's acceleration and roll rate to pull away if possible, then re-engage in an advantageous position.
  
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The Mk.5's main pitfall is its lackluster armament of six M3 machine guns. Often, sustained fire is the only way to down an enemy short of a pilot snipe. Snapshots will often result in a few hits and an enemy still very much in the fight. However, the high velocity and large ammo count makes accuracy a secondary concern. Pilots should not hesitate to douse their enemies in a hail of machine gun fire, as even a few hits can cripple the enemy and open them up for a second, fatal pass. Engaging in head-on passes with enemies sometimes leads to success owing to the velocity of the M3s, but pilots should be careful to start firing at significant distance and peel off before the 1.0 km mark to avoid enemy fire. Whilst dogfighting, the best shot of finishing engagements lies in exploiting the CL-13's energy superiority and forcing the enemy to bleed speed to the point where they are sitting ducks for your guns. This should not come at the cost of losing one's own speed, however, as the Mk. 5's high speed maneuverability falls off very quickly and can leave you as the sitting duck instead.
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The Mk.5's main pitfall is its lacklustre armament of six M3 machine guns. Often, sustained fire is the only way to down an enemy short of a pilot snipe. Snapshots will often result in a few hits and an enemy still very much in the fight. However, the high velocity and large ammo count makes accuracy a secondary concern. Pilots should not hesitate to douse their enemies in a hail of machine gun fire, as even a few hits can cripple the enemy and open them up for a second, fatal pass. Engaging in head-on passes with enemies sometimes leads to success owing to the velocity of the M3s, but pilots should be careful to start firing at significant distance and peel off before the 1.0 km mark to avoid enemy fire. Whilst dogfighting, the best shot of finishing engagements lies in exploiting the CL-13's energy superiority and forcing the enemy to bleed speed to the point where they are sitting ducks for your guns. This should not come at the cost of losing one's own speed, however, as the Mk. 5's high speed manoeuvrability falls off very quickly and can leave you as the sitting duck instead.
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=== Radars ===
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The CL-13A Mk 5 is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.
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It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.
  
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===Manual Engine Control===
 
 
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! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The range below which targets cannot be tracked by the radar}}
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! {{Annotation|Azimuth Tracking<br/>Angle|How far to each side the radar can track a target}}
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! {{Annotation|Elevation Tracking<br/>Angle|How far up and down the radar can track a target}}
 
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| Fuselage Repair
 
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| Radiator
 
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|Offensive 12 mm
 
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| Compressor
 
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| Airframe
 
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|FRC mk.2
 
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| Engine
 
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|New 12 mm MGs
 
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|FLBC mk.1
 
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Excellent roll rate at all speeds.
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* Excellent roll rate at all speeds
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* Flying tail elevator provides insane maneuverability at higher speeds.
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* Flying tail elevator provides insane manoeuvrability at higher speeds
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* High velocity heavy machine gun armament.
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* High velocity heavy machine gun armament
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* High rate of fire .50 cal M3 machine guns.
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* High rate of fire .50 cal M3 machine guns
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* Turn rate is very good (not better than F-86A-5/F-40 Sabre).
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* Turn rate is very good (not better than F-86A-5/F-40 Sabre)
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* Very good climb rate against all jets.
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* Very good climb rate against all jets
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* Better acceleration than most 9.0 jets, accelerating more than any other Sabre in game.
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* Better acceleration than most jets at its BR, accelerating more than any other Sabre in game
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* All round aircraft (good at AB, RB, and SB).
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* All round aircraft (good at AB, RB, and SB)
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'''Cons:'''
  
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* Low speed maneuverability worse than earlier jets.
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* Low speed manoeuvrability worse than earlier jets
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* Installed boosters breaks your wings if pulled over 12 G.
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* Installed boosters breaks your wings if pulled over 12 G
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* Weak landing gears.
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* Weak landing gear
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* Its excessive flight performance very often causes overconfidence, which can prove deadly
  
 
== History ==
 
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=== The CL-13 Series ===
 
=== The CL-13 Series ===
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The CL-13 series of aircraft were built by Canadair under licence from North American Aviation. These fighters would be operated by Canada until 1958, and a variety of other nations until much later, with the last variants being retired by the Pakistani Air Force in 1980. There were two major production runs of the aircraft. The first, the Mk. 2 and Mk. 4's with just under 1,000 built, were very similar to their US counterparts, with minor differences. The second run, the Mk. 5's and Mk. 6's of similar numbers, were patterned on the later versions North American Sabre, with larger wings for improved maneuverability. The major difference lay in the replacement of the General Electric J47 engine with the locally-designed more-powerful Avro Canada Orenda. The Mk. 6, with a more powerful two-stage version of the Orenda and improved control surfaces, is generally considered the best of all Sabre variants.
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The CL-13 series of aircraft were built by Canadair under licence from North American Aviation. These fighters would be operated by Canada until 1958, and a variety of other nations until much later, with the last variants being retired by the Pakistani Air Force in 1980. There were two major production runs of the aircraft. The first, the Mk. 2 and Mk. 4s with just under 1,000 built, were very similar to their US counterparts, with minor differences. The second run, the Mk. 5s and Mk. 6s of similar numbers, were patterned on the later versions North American Sabre, with larger wings for improved manoeuvrability. The major difference lay in the replacement of the General Electric J47 engine with the locally-designed more-powerful Avro Canada Orenda. The Mk. 6, with a more powerful two-stage version of the Orenda and improved control surfaces, is generally considered the best of all Sabre variants.
  
 
=== The CL-13 Mk. 5 ===
 
=== The CL-13 Mk. 5 ===
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On 30 July 1953, the first Sabre Mk.5 flew with the Orenda 10 engine, which gave it a clear rate of climb and ceiling advantage over earlier variants. This improvement was accompanied by a new oxygen system and superior maneuverability and low-speed characteristics achieved by increasing the wing chord by six in. (15.2 cm) at the root and three in. (7.2 cm) at the wing tip. The aircraft also made use of a small vertical wing  fence, a modification originated by North American on the F-86F, which dramatically improved maneuverability. Earlier variants of the CL-13 were equipped with leading edge wing slats that were removed in the Mk.5, leading to increased landing speed and considerably degraded low speed handling. The increase in engine power also came at the cost of range, a full 20 percent less than that of the F-86F. Canadair built 370 Mk. 5s with the majority designated to replace older Sabre variants in RCAF air squadrons.  
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On 30 July 1953, the first Sabre Mk.5 flew with the Orenda 10 engine, which gave it a clear rate of climb and ceiling advantage over earlier variants. This improvement was accompanied by a new oxygen system and superior manoeuvrability and low-speed characteristics achieved by increasing the wing chord by six in. (15.2 cm) at the root and three in. (7.2 cm) at the wing tip. The aircraft also made use of a small vertical wing  fence, a modification originated by North American on the F-86F, which dramatically improved manoeuvrability. Earlier variants of the CL-13 were equipped with leading edge wing slats that were removed in the Mk.5, leading to increased landing speed and considerably degraded low speed handling. The increase in engine power also came at the cost of range, a full 20 percent less than that of the F-86F. Canadair built 370 Mk. 5s with the majority designated to replace older Sabre variants in RCAF air squadrons.
  
 
=== Service in the Luftwaffe ===
 
=== Service in the Luftwaffe ===
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In 1956 the newly-revived West German Luftwaffe ordered 225 Canadair [[CL-13B Mk.6|CL-13 Mk. 6]]<nowiki/>s to outfit 3 day-fighter wings. In advance of the delivery, 75 retired Royal Canadian Air Force Mk. 5s were supplied to the training unit Waffenschule 10 to facilitate the conversion of pilots to the Sabre. By April of 1960 about 25 of these aircraft remained airworthy, down from a peak of 65 in early 1959. All of the remaining Mk. 5s were scrapped or sold by March of 1962.<ref>http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_22.html</ref>
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In 1956 the newly-revived West German Luftwaffe ordered 225 Canadair [[CL-13B Mk.6|CL-13 Mk. 6]]s to outfit 3 day-fighter wings. In advance of the delivery, 75 retired Royal Canadian Air Force Mk. 5s were supplied to the training unit Waffenschule 10 to facilitate the conversion of pilots to the Sabre. By April of 1960 about 25 of these aircraft remained airworthy, down from a peak of 65 in early 1959. All of the remaining Mk. 5s were scrapped or sold by March of 1962.<ref>http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_22.html</ref>
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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== See also ==
 
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Latest revision as of 18:48, 13 October 2023

This page is about the German jet fighter CL-13A Mk 5 (Germany). For other versions, see F-86 (Family).
◄CL-13A Mk 5
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◄CL-13A Mk 5
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VI Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
8.3 8.7 9.0
Class:
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Description

In 1949, Canada wanted a new fighter to supplement its growing air force. The F-86 Sabre was a good option, but the Canadian government didn't want to have another American aircraft in service. As a compromise, Canada received a license to build their own Sabres and thus birthed the Canadair Sabre. At first, they were essentially the same as the US F-86A. As development and production continued, Canadair Sabres were growing different and even had their own engine installed, the Avro Orenda jet engine. The Mk5 was powered by the Orenda 10, fitted with a new wing, and other aerodynamic changes. It was close to the US F-86F-30 in terms of performance. During this time, the German Luftwaffe was revived and also looked to purchase modern aircraft. Germany placed an order for over 200 Mk6 Sabres, but as a stop-gap measure, 75 ex-RCAF Mk5 Sabres were also supplied. Many of the Mk5 Sabres were scrapped in 1962.

The ◄CL-13A Sabre Mk 5 was introduced in Update 1.39. The main difference between the CL-13 and the American-built Sabres was the engine. The CL-13A was powered by the Avro Canada Orenda 10 engine, which produced around 2,800 kgf. For comparison, the F-86F-40 is powered by the General Electric J47-GE-27 engine, which only produced around 2,600 kgf. This provided an 8% increase in thrust and gave it substantially better performance in terms of acceleration, climb rate, and more. Other than that, the ◄CL-13A Sabre Mk 5 still retained the six nose-mounted 12.7 mm M3 machine guns. It also retains the same suspended armament options of HVAR rockets, 750 lb and 1,000 lb bombs, as the F-86F-30. 

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 0 m1 114 km/h
Turn time24 s
Max altitude14 700 m
EngineAvro Canada Orenda 10
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight10 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,103 1,097 14700 24.5 25.7 39.9 36.4 650
Upgraded 1,123 1,114 23.7 24.0 59.8 49.3

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,170 350 590 550 350 ~11 ~6
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 850 < 600 < 650 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Avro Canada Orenda 10 1 5,432 kg 238 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 7m fuel 20m fuel 24m fuel
1,160 kg Axial-flow turbojet 5,817 kg 6,487 kg 6,716 kg 9,530 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 7m fuel 20m fuel 24m fuel MTOW
Stationary 2,818 kgf N/A 0.48 0.43 0.42 0.30
Optimal 2,818 kgf
(0 km/h) 		N/A 0.48 0.43 0.42 0.30

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear350 km/h
  • 6.35 mm steel - in front of cockpit
  • 12.7 mm steel - pilot's seat
  • 20 mm steel - pilot's head rest
  • 38 mm bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
  • Engine and fuel tanks take up most of fuselage
  • More fuel tanks in wings

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 670 → 4 921 Sl icon.png
RB9 442 → 12 661 Sl icon.png
SB10 098 → 13 541 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications120 600 Rp icon.png
192 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 300 Ge icon.png
Crew training110 000 Sl icon.png
Experts380 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 000 Ge icon.png
Research Aces830 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
208 / 208 / 208 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
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Cost:
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Compressor
Research:
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Cost:
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New boosters
Research:
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Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
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Wings repair
Research:
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Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
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Engine
Research:
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Cost:
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G-suit
Research:
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Cost:
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Airframe
Research:
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Cost:
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Cover
Research:
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Cost:
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bmg50_belt_pack
Research:
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Cost:
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FRC mk.2
Research:
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Cost:
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bmg50_new_gun
Research:
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M117
Research:
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Cost:
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FLBC mk.1
Research:
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Cost:
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Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 16 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine gun
Ammunition1 800 rounds
Fire rate1 200 shots/min
Main article: M3 Browning (12.7 mm)

The CL-13A Mk 5 (Germany) is armed with:

  • 6 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,800 total)

Suspended armament

List of setups (3)
Setup 18 x HVAR rockets
8 x HVAR rockets
Setup 22 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 32 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bomb
Main articles: M117 cone 45 (750 lb), AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb), HVAR

The CL-13A Mk 5 (Germany) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 16 x HVAR rockets
  • 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (1,500 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

Speed is everything. Reach around 1,000 km/h and then 10 to 20 degree climb then level out before dropping below 750 km/h IAS.

Watch out for planes like F-86F-2 Sabres and Hunters. These two you'll see the most and they will see you as a big threat since you pretty much out-perform them in every aspect. Destroy them before they pose any threat to you.

The CL-13's energy fighting capabilities outperform most if not all enemies of the same BR. Engagements should always occur on your terms, if you are in a bad situation make use of the Mk. 5's acceleration and roll rate to pull away if possible, then re-engage in an advantageous position.

The Mk.5's main pitfall is its lacklustre armament of six M3 machine guns. Often, sustained fire is the only way to down an enemy short of a pilot snipe. Snapshots will often result in a few hits and an enemy still very much in the fight. However, the high velocity and large ammo count makes accuracy a secondary concern. Pilots should not hesitate to douse their enemies in a hail of machine gun fire, as even a few hits can cripple the enemy and open them up for a second, fatal pass. Engaging in head-on passes with enemies sometimes leads to success owing to the velocity of the M3s, but pilots should be careful to start firing at significant distance and peel off before the 1.0 km mark to avoid enemy fire. Whilst dogfighting, the best shot of finishing engagements lies in exploiting the CL-13's energy superiority and forcing the enemy to bleed speed to the point where they are sitting ducks for your guns. This should not come at the cost of losing one's own speed, however, as the Mk. 5's high speed manoeuvrability falls off very quickly and can leave you as the sitting duck instead.

Radars

The CL-13A Mk 5 is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft. It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.

AN/APG-30 - Rangefinding radar
Maximum
Tracking
Range 		Minimum
Tracking
Range 		Azimuth Tracking
Angle 		Elevation Tracking
Angle
2,750 m 300 m ±9° ±9°

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent roll rate at all speeds
  • Flying tail elevator provides insane manoeuvrability at higher speeds
  • High velocity heavy machine gun armament
  • High rate of fire .50 cal M3 machine guns
  • Turn rate is very good (not better than F-86A-5/F-40 Sabre)
  • Very good climb rate against all jets
  • Better acceleration than most jets at its BR, accelerating more than any other Sabre in game
  • All round aircraft (good at AB, RB, and SB)

Cons:

  • Low speed manoeuvrability worse than earlier jets
  • Installed boosters breaks your wings if pulled over 12 G
  • Weak landing gear
  • Its excessive flight performance very often causes overconfidence, which can prove deadly

History

The CL-13 Series

The CL-13 series of aircraft were built by Canadair under licence from North American Aviation. These fighters would be operated by Canada until 1958, and a variety of other nations until much later, with the last variants being retired by the Pakistani Air Force in 1980. There were two major production runs of the aircraft. The first, the Mk. 2 and Mk. 4s with just under 1,000 built, were very similar to their US counterparts, with minor differences. The second run, the Mk. 5s and Mk. 6s of similar numbers, were patterned on the later versions North American Sabre, with larger wings for improved manoeuvrability. The major difference lay in the replacement of the General Electric J47 engine with the locally-designed more-powerful Avro Canada Orenda. The Mk. 6, with a more powerful two-stage version of the Orenda and improved control surfaces, is generally considered the best of all Sabre variants.

The CL-13 Mk. 5

On 30 July 1953, the first Sabre Mk.5 flew with the Orenda 10 engine, which gave it a clear rate of climb and ceiling advantage over earlier variants. This improvement was accompanied by a new oxygen system and superior manoeuvrability and low-speed characteristics achieved by increasing the wing chord by six in. (15.2 cm) at the root and three in. (7.2 cm) at the wing tip. The aircraft also made use of a small vertical wing fence, a modification originated by North American on the F-86F, which dramatically improved manoeuvrability. Earlier variants of the CL-13 were equipped with leading edge wing slats that were removed in the Mk.5, leading to increased landing speed and considerably degraded low speed handling. The increase in engine power also came at the cost of range, a full 20 percent less than that of the F-86F. Canadair built 370 Mk. 5s with the majority designated to replace older Sabre variants in RCAF air squadrons.

Service in the Luftwaffe

In 1956 the newly-revived West German Luftwaffe ordered 225 Canadair CL-13 Mk. 6s to outfit 3 day-fighter wings. In advance of the delivery, 75 retired Royal Canadian Air Force Mk. 5s were supplied to the training unit Waffenschule 10 to facilitate the conversion of pilots to the Sabre. By April of 1960 about 25 of these aircraft remained airworthy, down from a peak of 65 in early 1959. All of the remaining Mk. 5s were scrapped or sold by March of 1962.[1]

Media

Skins

See also

Related development
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

External links

References

  1. ↑ http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_22.html


Canadair Limited
Fighters  ▄CL-13 Mk.4* · ◄CL-13A Mk 5* · ◄CL-13B Mk.6*
  * These aircraft were license-built from North American Aviation who developed and built the F-86 Sabre fighter.

Germany jet aircraft
Germany flag.png  Luftwaffe
He 162  He 162 A-1 · He 162 A-2
Me 163  Me 163 B · Me 163 B-0
Ho 229  Ho 229 V3
Ar 234  Ar 234 B-2 · Ar 234 C-3
Me 262  Me 262 A-1a · Me 262 A-1a/Jabo · Me 262 A-1a/U1 · Me 262 A-1/U4 · Me 262 A-2a
  Me 262 C-1a · Me 262 C-2b
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Fighters  ◊MiG-15bis · ◊Lim-5P · ◊MiG-19S
  ◊MiG-21MF · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M"
  ◊MiG-29
Attackers  ◊MiG-23BN · ◊MiG-23MF · ◊MiG-23MLA
  ◊Su-22UM3K · ◊Su-22M4
  ◊IL-28
FRG flag.png  Luftwaffe
F-84  ◄F-84F
F-86  ◄CL-13A Mk 5 · ◄CL-13B Mk.6 · ◄F-86K
F-104  ◄F-104G
F-4  ◄F-4F Early · ◄F-4F · ◄F-4F KWS LV
G.91  ◄G.91 R/3 · ◄G.91 R/4
Tornado  ◄Tornado IDS WTD61 · ◄Tornado IDS MFG · ◄Tornado IDS ASSTA1
Other  Alpha Jet A · ◄Sea Hawk Mk.100
Ex-LSK  ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◄MiG-29G · ◄Su-22M4 WTD61
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  ◌Hunter F.58 · FFA P-16

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