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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Swiss jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Dance of Dragons"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Dance of Dragons"]]. The FFA P-16 was originally designed and built in Switzerland.
  
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* 2 x 30 mm cannons, with a rate of 1,000 shots per minute each and full tracer ammunition with a projectile speed of 1050 m/s, form an efficient armament for aerial combat
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* Decent CAS options
  
 
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* No countermeasures of any kind
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* No RWR or radar
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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The FFA P-16 was a prototype plane designed as an  air superiority fighter and built in Switzerland by FFA Altenrhein near lake Constance. The plan was to build more than 100 jets, but two of the five prototypes crashed in lake Constance during test flights. No one was harmed, but the Swiss government decided to shut down the project. One remaining plane stands in the Flieger Flab Museum in Zurich, the other two have been scrapped. The tail number is the same as one of the prototypes had, XHB-VAD, the X standing for experimental prototype.  
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The plane feature Krueger Flaps wich is uncommon for fighter aircrafts
  
 
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== See also ==
 
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Latest revision as of 15:12, 28 October 2024

FFA P-16
ffa_p16.png
GarageImage FFA P-16.jpg
FFA P-16
Germany flag.png Germany
VI Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
9.0 9.0 9.0
Class:
PREMIUM
Purchase:Bundle or Gift
STORE

Description

The FFA P-16 is a premium gift rank VI German jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Dance of Dragons". The FFA P-16 was originally designed and built in Switzerland.

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 100 km/h
Turn time33 s
Max altitude12 000 m
EngineArmstrong Siddeley Sapphire ASSa.7
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight12 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max speed
(km/h at sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock ___ ___ 12000 __._ __._ __._ __._ 600
Upgraded 1107 1100 31.7 33.0 80.4 65.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
_ _ _ _ _ _
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 450 ___ ___ ___ ~__ ~__
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< ___ < ___ < ___ -

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
_____ _ _,___ kg ___ kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Gross
Weight
Weight (each) Type _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel
___ kg ___ _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
Condition 100% ___%/WEP _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel MGW
Stationary ___ kgf ___ kgf _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Optimal ___ kgf
(_ km/h) 		___ kgf
(_ km/h) 		_.__ _.__ _.__ _.__

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear450 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB2 200 Sl icon.png
RB4 398 Sl icon.png
SB7 083 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts1 010 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 600 Ge icon.png
Research Aces2 020 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 130 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 226 / 226 / 226 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Mods jet engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
400 kg FeBb Napalmbombe
Mods pilon rocket.png
Type R80 SURA
Mods pilon bomb.png
200 kg Sprengbombe
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
Matra Type 1000
Mods weapon.png
aden_new_gun
Mods pilon bomb.png
400 kg Sprengbombe
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
Flz Lwf 63
Mods pilon bomb.png
AN-M66

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs) EEGS
Icon RedXCross.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon RedXCross.png

Offensive armament

Main article: Hispano HS 825 (30 mm)

The FFA P-16 is armed with:

  • 2 x 30 mm Hispano HS 825 cannons, nose-mounted (120 rpg = 240 total)

Suspended armament

Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.

Default weapon presets
  • Without load
  • 2 x Flz Lwf 63 missiles
  • 8 x 200 kg Sprengbombe bombs (1,600 kg total)
  • 4 x 200 kg Sprengbombe bombs (800 kg total)
  • 4 x 400 kg Sprengbombe bombs (1,600 kg total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 4 x FeBb Napalmbombe incendiary bombs
  • 48 x Type R80 SURA T-80-P 3 rockets
  • 48 x Type R80 SURA T-80-US 3 rockets
  • 44 x SNEB type 23 rockets

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Has a good roll rate
  • 2 x 30 mm cannons, with a rate of 1,000 shots per minute each and full tracer ammunition with a projectile speed of 1050 m/s, form an efficient armament for aerial combat
  • Decent CAS options

Cons:

  • Subsonic
  • None of the armament have CCIP
  • The main guns do not have ammunition suitable for CAS
  • No countermeasures of any kind
  • No RWR or radar

History

The FFA P-16 was a prototype plane designed as an air superiority fighter and built in Switzerland by FFA Altenrhein near lake Constance. The plan was to build more than 100 jets, but two of the five prototypes crashed in lake Constance during test flights. No one was harmed, but the Swiss government decided to shut down the project. One remaining plane stands in the Flieger Flab Museum in Zurich, the other two have been scrapped. The tail number is the same as one of the prototypes had, XHB-VAD, the X standing for experimental prototype.

The plane feature Krueger Flaps wich is uncommon for fighter aircrafts

Media

Images
  • FFA P-16 (Germany) WTWallpaper001.jpg
  • FFA P-16 (Germany) WTWallpaper002.jpg
  • FFA P-16 (Germany) WTWallpaper003.jpg
  • FFA P-16 (Germany) WTWallpaper004.jpg
  • FFA P-16 (Germany) WTWallpaper005.jpg
  • FFA P-16 (Germany) WTWallpaper006.jpg

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Flug- und Fahrzeugwerke Altenrhein (FFA)
Jet Fighters  FFA P-16

Germany jet aircraft
Germany flag.png  Luftwaffe
He 162  He 162 A-1 · He 162 A-2
Me 163  Me 163 B · Me 163 B-0
Ho 229  Ho 229 V3
Ar 234  Ar 234 B-2 · Ar 234 C-3
Me 262  Me 262 A-1a · Me 262 A-1a/Jabo · Me 262 A-1a/U1 · Me 262 A-1/U4 · Me 262 A-2a
  Me 262 C-1a · Me 262 C-2b
GDR flag.png  LSK
Fighters  ◊MiG-15bis · ◊Lim-5P · ◊MiG-19S
  ◊MiG-21MF · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M"
  ◊MiG-29
Attackers  ◊MiG-23BN · ◊MiG-23MF · ◊MiG-23MLA
  ◊Su-22UM3K · ◊Su-22M4
  ◊IL-28
FRG flag.png  Luftwaffe
F-84  ◄F-84F
F-86  ◄CL-13A Mk 5 · ◄CL-13B Mk.6 · ◄F-86K
F-104  ◄F-104G
F-4  ◄F-4F Early · ◄F-4F · ◄F-4F KWS LV
G.91  ◄G.91 R/3 · ◄G.91 R/4
Tornado  ◄Tornado IDS WTD61 · ◄Tornado IDS MFG · ◄Tornado IDS ASSTA1
Other  Alpha Jet A · ◄Sea Hawk Mk.100
Ex-LSK  ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◄MiG-29G · ◄Su-22M4 WTD61
Switzerland flag.png  Swiss Air Force
  ◌Hunter F.58 · FFA P-16

Germany premium aircraft
Fighters  He 51 B-2/H · BV 155 B-1
He 112  He 112 B-1/U2 · He 112 B-2/U2
Bf 109  Flegel's Bf 109 A · Bf 109 E-7/U2 · Bf 109 G-2
Fw 190  Fw 190 A-5/U14 · Fw 190 C · Fw 190 D-13
Captured  ▀Marcolin's C.R.42 CN · ▀Hawk H-75A-2 · ▀Yak-1B · ▀La-5FN · ▀P-47D-16-RE · ▀P-47D · ▀Tempest Mk V
Twin-engine fighters  Bf 109 Z-1 · Ju 388 J · Ta 154 A-1
Jet fighters  ◄Sea Hawk Mk.100 · ◄G.91 R/4 · FFA P-16 · ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M"
Strike aircraft  Hs 129 B-2 (Romania) · ▀IL-2 (1942) · Bf 110 C-6 · Do 335 B-2 · He 219 A-7 · ◄Tornado IDS WTD61 · ◄Su-22M4 WTD61
Bombers  Ar 196 A-3 · BV 238 · Fw 189 A-1 · He 177 A-3 · Ju 87 R-2 Libya · Ju 288 C · ▀Wellington Mk Ic

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