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| − | + | As with all reserve torpedo boats, there is no real armour to speak of. VTB-8's 40mm thick wooden hull and 15mm thick wooden superstructure is typical of early torpedo boats and is shared with the MAS-561, PT-6, and Type T-14. The radio station and pilothouse are relatively small and set roughly amidships, which reduces the size of the target the enemy needs to hit to damage the craft's steering. The single gun mount is very small and therefore hard to disable, which will allow you to keep firing in desperate situations. If it is somehow destroyed, it won't affect your overall crew count. In total, the boat can hold ten crew members, with three in each hull section and one in the pilothouse, needing a minimum of three crew to operate. | |
=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
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| − | + | The boat is surprisingly agile, but it's primary asset is its speed. Being faster than any reserve boat other than the Russian G-5, you can beat the competition to the capture point, escape from big ships, and close the distance with the enemy as needed. | |
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| + | [[File:VTB-8 with Darne Mle 1922 shooting.jpg|thumb|[[Darne M1922 (7.7 mm)|Darne Mle 1922]] has a fairly small muzzle flash and a wide arc of fire.]] | ||
{{main|Darne M1922 (7.7 mm)}} | {{main|Darne M1922 (7.7 mm)}} | ||
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{{main|1909R (450 mm)}} | {{main|1909R (450 mm)}} | ||
| − | + | Being a pre-WW1 torpedo, the M1909R has the shortest range of any torpedo carried on a reserve coastal vessel (2 km), along with an average speed (61 km/h) and payload (144 kg). Suffice to say, the user will need to get as close as possible to the enemy before launching, provided 50 meters of distance is left between launcher and target for the torpedo to arm. Released by a unique animated Loire "claw" deployment system off either side of the boat, captains must take care to angle the hull so that the launchers are pointing directly at the target's path. This is unlike the VTB-14 which drops the torpedoes off the stern, requiring less angling of the hull, but increasing their travel time. It is best to use the M1909R in close-range ambushes from behind cover. Targets should mostly consist of other coastal vessels and destroyers due to the torpedo's small payload which can be entirely absorbed by battleship torpedo protection systems rated to withstand 250 kg of TNT. | |
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | + | The boat is very fast for a reserve vessel, beating out all but the sleek duralumin G-5 for top speed. This can be used to your advantage when attacking capture points or for closing the distance with your enemy - something you will need to do regularly to achieve any sort of lethality from your small calibre weapons. The tripod gun mount provides an excellent 360 degree firing arc as well as between -10 and 80 degrees of elevation for use against aircraft. Keeping this in mind, it's best to attack all targets "bow-in" to expose as little of your hull as possible. Given the wooden construction, it's not the best boat for "bow-tanking" but that is by far your best hope for survival against aware enemies. As with all belt-fed weapons, managing your reloads is key. However, with a weapon of this low calibre, you need as many bullets as possible to be ready before you hit that several second reload downtime. If you believe an engagement is coming up or lack visibility on the threats ahead, make sure to empty your magazine and get a fresh one. | |
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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| + | * Fast and agile | ||
| + | * Stable gunnery platform at high speeds | ||
| + | * 360° arc of fire for both guns, with very good vertical guidance | ||
| + | * Good survivability for the BR | ||
| + | * Small silhouette | ||
| + | * Tiny steering gear is very unlikely to suffer critical damage | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
| − | * | + | |
| + | * Poor firepower | ||
| + | * Limited selection of ammunition | ||
| + | * Very short range of the torpedoes, making them extremely situational | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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| + | * [[wt:en/news/9050-development-french-coastal-fleet-closed-testing-begins-soon-en|[Devblog] French Coastal Fleet Closed Testing Begins Soon!]] | ||
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| + | {{ShipManufacturer Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire}} | ||
{{France boats}} | {{France boats}} | ||
Latest revision as of 09:41, 13 October 2024
Contents
Description
The VTB-8 is a rank I French motor torpedo boat with a battle rating of 1.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Dance of Dragons".
General info
Survivability and armour
As with all reserve torpedo boats, there is no real armour to speak of. VTB-8's 40mm thick wooden hull and 15mm thick wooden superstructure is typical of early torpedo boats and is shared with the MAS-561, PT-6, and Type T-14. The radio station and pilothouse are relatively small and set roughly amidships, which reduces the size of the target the enemy needs to hit to damage the craft's steering. The single gun mount is very small and therefore hard to disable, which will allow you to keep firing in desperate situations. If it is somehow destroyed, it won't affect your overall crew count. In total, the boat can hold ten crew members, with three in each hull section and one in the pilothouse, needing a minimum of three crew to operate.
Mobility
The boat is surprisingly agile, but it's primary asset is its speed. Being faster than any reserve boat other than the Russian G-5, you can beat the competition to the capture point, escape from big ships, and close the distance with the enemy as needed.
| Mobility Characteristics | |||
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| Game Mode | Upgrade Status | Maximum Speed (km/h) | |
| Forward | Reverse | ||
| AB | |||
| Upgraded | 125 | 37 | |
| RB/SB | |||
| Upgraded | 89 | 26 | |
Modifications and economy
| Seakeeping | Unsinkability | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||
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Armament
Primary armament
Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: {{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.
- Universal: AP · T · AP · T
- 7.7 mm AP belt: AP · AP · AP · T
- 7.7 mm API belt: IT · IT · IT · IT
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
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| Ammunition | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | ||||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| T | 9 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 | |
| AP | 9 | 9 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 5 | |
| IT | 8 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 4 | |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay | Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | ||||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| T | 835 | 0.01 | - | - | - | 47° | 56° | 65° | ||||
| AP | 830 | 0.01 | - | - | - | 47° | 56° | 65° | ||||
| IT | 830 | 0.01 | - | - | - | 47° | 56° | 65° | ||||
Additional armament
Being a pre-WW1 torpedo, the M1909R has the shortest range of any torpedo carried on a reserve coastal vessel (2 km), along with an average speed (61 km/h) and payload (144 kg). Suffice to say, the user will need to get as close as possible to the enemy before launching, provided 50 meters of distance is left between launcher and target for the torpedo to arm. Released by a unique animated Loire "claw" deployment system off either side of the boat, captains must take care to angle the hull so that the launchers are pointing directly at the target's path. This is unlike the VTB-14 which drops the torpedoes off the stern, requiring less angling of the hull, but increasing their travel time. It is best to use the M1909R in close-range ambushes from behind cover. Targets should mostly consist of other coastal vessels and destroyers due to the torpedo's small payload which can be entirely absorbed by battleship torpedo protection systems rated to withstand 250 kg of TNT.
Usage in battles
The boat is very fast for a reserve vessel, beating out all but the sleek duralumin G-5 for top speed. This can be used to your advantage when attacking capture points or for closing the distance with your enemy - something you will need to do regularly to achieve any sort of lethality from your small calibre weapons. The tripod gun mount provides an excellent 360 degree firing arc as well as between -10 and 80 degrees of elevation for use against aircraft. Keeping this in mind, it's best to attack all targets "bow-in" to expose as little of your hull as possible. Given the wooden construction, it's not the best boat for "bow-tanking" but that is by far your best hope for survival against aware enemies. As with all belt-fed weapons, managing your reloads is key. However, with a weapon of this low calibre, you need as many bullets as possible to be ready before you hit that several second reload downtime. If you believe an engagement is coming up or lack visibility on the threats ahead, make sure to empty your magazine and get a fresh one.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Fast and agile
- Stable gunnery platform at high speeds
- 360° arc of fire for both guns, with very good vertical guidance
- Good survivability for the BR
- Small silhouette
- Tiny steering gear is very unlikely to suffer critical damage
Cons:
- Poor firepower
- Limited selection of ammunition
- Very short range of the torpedoes, making them extremely situational
History
Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the ship;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
| Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire (ACL) | |
|---|---|
| Motor Torpedo Boats | |
| VTB-8-class | VTB-8 · VTB-9 |
| VTB-11-class | VTB-11 · VTB-13 · VTB-14 |
| Destroyers | |
| Jaguar-class | Leopard |
| Battleships | |
| Bretagne-class | Lorraine |
| See also | Loire Aviation |
| France boats | |
|---|---|
| Motor torpedo boats | VTB-8 · VTB-9 · VTB-11 · VTB-14 |
| VLT-1 · VLT-2 · VTB-19 | |
| MTB-96 | |
| Motor gun boats | L9059 · La Combattante · VTB-13 |
| Gunboats | La Suprise |
