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{{About
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| about = American twin-engine fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| other
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| usage-1 = the premium version
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| link-1 = Bong's P-38J-15
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| usage-2 = other variants
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| link-2 = P-38 (Family)
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{{Notice|''This page is about the aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For other uses, see [[P-38_(Disambiguation)|P-38 (Disambiguation)]]''}}
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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Throughout the many P-38 Lightning variants, one thing rarely changed, the engine nacelles. With the P-38J, also known as Model 422, the engine nacelles and cooling system was revised.  Much of the cooling system was improved, such as a different intercooler and other airframe changes that greatly improved the ability to control the turbochargers. Although the P-38J had the same engine (V-1719-89/91) as the earlier P-38H, the better cooling allowed the P-38J to run at a higher power setting at high altitudes. The power increased by about 13%. The specific J-15 block had a better electrical system but was virtually the same as the earlier P-38J blocks.
  
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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Introduced in [[Update 1.53 "Firestorm"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a decent twin-engine fighter. The P-38J with its relatively good climb rate and air spawn, can easily climb above many fighters at its battle rating. Players should climb at about 275 km/h (173 mph) IAS for the best climb performance. The P-38J also has the same armament as many of the other Lightnings with four 12.7 mm machine guns and one 20 mm cannon all mounted in the nose. Although the P-38J has a structural limit of 790 km/h (493 mph), players should be cautious of going too fast as the high-speed compression issue wasn't solved at the time. This can make it hard to get guns on target or worse, slam into the ground. In addition, the P-38J can take bombs and rockets, but players should stick to attacking enemy aircraft. Overall, the P-38J is quite a good aircraft with some quirks.
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== General info ==
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The '''P-38J-15 Lightning''' is a Rank IV American heavy fighter with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in [[Update 1.53 "Firestorm"]].
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=== Flight performance ===
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The P-38J is a sleekly designed, two-engine monoplane made by Lockheed. This plane has a top speed of 431 mph (694 km/h) and a V<sub>NE</sub> of 460 mph (740 kph). Its main armament consists of 1 x AN/M2 20 mm cannon and 4 x 12.7 mm [[Browning M2 (12.7 mm)|Browning machine guns]]. With upgrades, the Lightning can function as a multi-role fighter with bazooka rockets or bombs to help lead your team to victory, both in the air and on the ground.
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== General info ==
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=== Flight Performance ===
 
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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| 661 || 651 || 12,192 || 22.9 || 23.4 || 13.7 || 15.9 || 332
 
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
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! AB
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! Stock
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! RB
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| 669 || 651 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 22.6 || 23.4 || 15.9 || 15.9 || rowspan="2" | 332
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
 
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| 726 || 693 || 12,192 || 20.4 || 21.5 || 28 || 19.6 || 332
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! Upgraded
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| 721 || 693 || 20.4 || 21.5 || 24.3 || 19.6
 
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====Details====
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==== Details ====
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! Combat flap
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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! Take-off flap
 
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! Landing flap
 
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! Air brakes
 
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! Arrestor gear
 
 
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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| 790 || 289 || 534 || ~9 || ~5
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 565 || 495 || 250 || ~9 || ~5
 
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
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! WEP Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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* 6.5 mm Steel - Fore cockpit plating
 
* 6.5 mm Steel - Fore cockpit plating
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* 9.8 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
 
* 9.8 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
 
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
 
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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{{Specs-Economy}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|AN/M2 (20 mm)|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
 
* 1 x 20 mm AN/M2 cannon, nose-mounted (150 rpg)
 
* 1 x 20 mm AN/M2 cannon, nose-mounted (150 rpg)
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* 4 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, nose-mounted (500 rpg = 2,000 total)
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* 4 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (500 rpg = 2,000 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
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{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|M8}}
 
{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|M8}}
  
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
 
* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 
* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 
* 6 x M8 rockets
 
* 6 x M8 rockets
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== Usage in the battles ==
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== Usage in battles ==
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When playing the P-38J, climb to a high altitude, search for the enemy, and then pick an enemy you feel confident in engaging.  
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When playing the P-38J, climb to a high altitude, search for the enemy, and then pick an enemy you feel confident in engaging.
  
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Once these steps have been ticked-off, assuming you are above the enemy target, put the Lightning into a gradual descent. This gives allows you to maintain a speed advantage. As you are descending, make small course corrections, so you don't give the element of surprise away by shooting too soon, overshooting or being within view.  
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Once these steps have been ticked off, assuming you are above the enemy target, put the Lightning into a gradual descent. This allows you to maintain a speed advantage. As you are descending, make small course corrections, so you don't give the element of surprise away by shooting too soon, overshooting, or being within view.
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When you are about 1-2 seconds away from your target, line your sights up and fire a short burst with your cannon and machine guns. Your target should now be heavily damaged or shot down. If you fail to damage your target, climb back up above using your energy advantage and repeat or move on.    
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When you are about 1-2 seconds away from your target, line your sights up and fire a short burst with your cannon and machine guns. Your target should now be heavily damaged or shot down. If you fail to damage your target, climb back up above using your energy advantage and repeat or move on.
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'''''Ground Battles'''''<br>
 
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Using the Lightning in ground forces (RB) is very effective once you have unlocked the appropriate modules. '''FMBC Mk.1''' allows you to equip 2 x 500 lb bombs, which are mounted under your wings. To help get the bombs on target, put the plane into a steep dive. As you near the ground, drop the bombs then pull up. Make sure you either pull up with altitude to spare or have a timed fuse to avoid crashing or blowing yourself up. The M10 Bazooka module allows you to equip your P-38J with 2 triple Bazooka launchers. These are attached to the lower nose panel, and are very accurate. These are ideal for destroying tanks and bunkers.   
 
  
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Once the enemy ground units have been destroyed or you run out of external ordnance, you can use the Lightning to help maintain air superiority. This will help you secure that much wanted victory.
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'''Ground Battles'''<br>
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===Manual Engine Control===
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Using the Lightning in ground forces (RB) is very effective once you have unlocked the appropriate modules. '''FMBC Mk.1''' allows you to equip 2 x 500 lb bombs, which are mounted under your wings. To help get the bombs on target, put the plane into a steep dive. As you near the ground, drop the bombs then pull up. Make sure you either pull up with altitude to spare or have a timed fuse to avoid crashing or blowing yourself up. The M10 Bazooka module allows you to equip your P-38J with 2 triple Bazooka launchers. These are attached to the lower nose panel and are very accurate. These are ideal for destroying tanks and bunkers.
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Once the enemy ground units have been destroyed or you run out of external ordnance, you can use the Lightning to help maintain air superiority. This will help you secure that much-wanted victory.
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
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===Modules===
 
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| I
 
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| Radiator
 
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| Offensive 12 mm
 
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| Compressor
 
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| Airframe
 
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| New 12 mm MGs
 
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| FMBC mk.1
 
 
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| III
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! Oil !! Water !! Type
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| Wings Repair
 
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| Engine
 
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| Offensive 20 mm
 
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| Controllable || Controllable<br>Auto control available || Controllable<br>Auto control available || Controllable<br>Auto control available || Separate || Not controllable<br>1 gear || Not controllable
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| G-Suit
 
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| Engine Injection
 
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| Cover
 
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| New 20 mm Cannons
 
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| Rocket Launcher M10
 
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Excellent speed
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* Excellent speed and climb rate
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* Excellent acceleration
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* Incredible energy retention, great for [[Boom & Zoom]]
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* Excellent climb rate
 
 
* Very powerful armament, great for bomber hunting
 
* Very powerful armament, great for bomber hunting
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* Nose mounted armament allows it to have great and fearsome head-on capability
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* Nose-mounted armament, no need for gun convergence
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* Multiple armament presets; allows it to function as ground attack and/or air superiority
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* Multiple armament presets; allows it to function as a ground attack and/or air superiority fighter
 
* Good roll and turn time
 
* Good roll and turn time
 
* Good overall visibility in simulator matches
 
* Good overall visibility in simulator matches
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* Great air superiority aircraft
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Unable to dive to put fires out without breaking wings
 
* Unable to dive to put fires out without breaking wings
 
* Easy to rip wings in dives; no airbrakes installed unlike the [[P-38L-5-LO|P-38L]]
 
* Easy to rip wings in dives; no airbrakes installed unlike the [[P-38L-5-LO|P-38L]]
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* Easy to black-out if your crew's G-Tolerance and Stamina are low
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* Low cannon ammunition amount compared to other planes at the rank.
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* Low cannon ammunition amount compared to other planes at the rank
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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===Development===
 
===Development===
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The concept of the plane was made in February 1937 when the US Army Air Corps made a requirement for a plane that had twin-engine and can act as an high-altitude interceptor that can hold a large amount of armament and ammunition. The term "interceptor" was used for the aircraft by the requirement authors, 1st Lt Benjamin S. Kelsey and Gordon P. Saville, to bypass the Air Corps' strict requirements on aircraft designs at the time. The specifications laid by this new requirements also called for a maximum speed of 360 mph (580 km/h) and able to climb to 20,000 ft altitude in six minutes, making it the most tough specifications at the time. Design proposals were made for the specifications, one of which would become the [[P-39N-0|Bell P-39 Airacobra]], but it was the Lockheed design team headed by Hall Hibbard and Clarence "Kelly" Johnson that made the final product. They made many designs with a twin-engine configuration. The prototypes made for the design used a twin-boom design to hold all the components of the aircraft. Various armaments were tested on the aircraft, from different machine gun combinations and auto cannons. It was finally settled to four x M2 .50 cal machine guns and one Hispano 20 mm auto cannon. The aircraft armament configurations, all at the nose of the aircraft, was very unusual for an American aircraft design, as most of their designs and those of their foreign contemporaries had the armament mounted on the wings angled forward. Because of this mounting, the aircraft is able to fire at a longer distance accurately than wing-mounts.
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The concept of the plane was made in February 1937 when the US Army Air Corps made a requirement for a plane that had twin-engine and could act as a high-altitude interceptor that could hold a large amount of armament and ammunition. The term "interceptor" was used for the aircraft by the requirement authors, 1st Lt Benjamin S. Kelsey and Gordon P. Saville, to bypass the Air Corps' strict requirements on aircraft designs at the time. The specifications laid by these new requirements also called for a maximum speed of 360 mph (580 km/h) and able to climb to 20,000 ft altitude in six minutes, making it the toughest specifications at the time. Design proposals were made for the specifications, one of which would become the [[P-39N-0|Bell P-39 Airacobra]], but it was the Lockheed design team headed by Hall Hibbard and Clarence "Kelly" Johnson that made the final product. They made many designs with a twin-engine configuration. The prototypes made for the design used a twin-boom design to hold all the components of the aircraft. Various armaments were tested on the aircraft, from different machine gun combinations and autocannons. It was finally settled to four x M2 .50 cal machine guns and one Hispano 20 mm autocannon. The aircraft armament configurations, all at the nose of the aircraft, was very unusual for American aircraft design, as most of their designs and those of their foreign contemporaries had the armament mounted on the wings angled forward. Because of this mounting, the aircraft can fire at a longer distance accurately than wing-mounts.
  
 
===P-38J===
 
===P-38J===
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The '''P-38J''' model of the series was introduced into service in August 1943. Its distinctive form is the movement of the turbo-supercharger intercooler system from the leading edges of the wings to in between the oil coolers of the engine to protect them from combat damages. Thus, the J models of P-38s have a distinctive "chin" in the engine design. The empty spaces on the wing now made room for fuel tanks for an additional 55 gallons of fuel when installed. Other improvements in the P-38J's was a hydraulically boosted ailerons and flat bullet-proof windscreens. 2970 P-38J's were built during its production period.
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The '''P-38J''' model of the series was introduced into service in August 1943. Its distinctive form is the movement of the turbo-supercharger intercooler system from the leading edges of the wings to in between the oil coolers of the engine to protect them from combat damage. Thus, the J models of P-38s have a distinctive "chin" in the engine design. The empty spaces on the wing now made room for fuel tanks for an additional 55 gallons of fuel when installed. Other improvements in the P-38J were hydraulically boosted ailerons and flat bullet-proof windscreens. 2970 P-38Js were built during its production period.
  
 
===Combat usage===
 
===Combat usage===
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The P-38 performed very well in the Pacific and European theaters during World War II. They were used in roles such as bomber and transport escorts, performing reconnaissance, Combat Air Patrols, ground attack, Search and Rescue and other important and critical roles.
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The P-38 performed very well in the Pacific and European theatres during World War II. They were used in roles such as bomber and transport escorts, performing reconnaissance, Combat Air Patrols, ground attack, Search and Rescue and other important and critical roles.
  
 
===Survivors===
 
===Survivors===
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Unfortunately it is estimated that only five P-38J's survive to this day. Only two of them are still airworthy.
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Unfortunately, it is estimated that only five P-38Js survive to this day. Only two of them are still airworthy.
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=== Notable pilots ===
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Latest revision as of 12:36, 27 March 2024

Introducing Wiki 3.0
This page is about the American twin-engine fighter P-38J-15. For the premium version, see Bong's P-38J-15. For other variants, see P-38 (Family).
P-38J-15
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P-38J-15
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III Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
4.0 4.3 4.0
Class:
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Purchase:155 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

Throughout the many P-38 Lightning variants, one thing rarely changed, the engine nacelles. With the P-38J, also known as Model 422, the engine nacelles and cooling system was revised. Much of the cooling system was improved, such as a different intercooler and other airframe changes that greatly improved the ability to control the turbochargers. Although the P-38J had the same engine (V-1719-89/91) as the earlier P-38H, the better cooling allowed the P-38J to run at a higher power setting at high altitudes. The power increased by about 13%. The specific J-15 block had a better electrical system but was virtually the same as the earlier P-38J blocks.

Introduced in Update 1.53 "Firestorm", the P-38J-15 Lightning is a decent twin-engine fighter. The P-38J with its relatively good climb rate and air spawn, can easily climb above many fighters at its battle rating. Players should climb at about 275 km/h (173 mph) IAS for the best climb performance. The P-38J also has the same armament as many of the other Lightnings with four 12.7 mm machine guns and one 20 mm cannon all mounted in the nose. Although the P-38J has a structural limit of 790 km/h (493 mph), players should be cautious of going too fast as the high-speed compression issue wasn't solved at the time. This can make it hard to get guns on target or worse, slam into the ground. In addition, the P-38J can take bombs and rockets, but players should stick to attacking enemy aircraft. Overall, the P-38J is quite a good aircraft with some quirks.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 7 921 m693 km/h
Turn time21 s
Max altitude12 192 m
EngineAllison V-1710-91
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight9 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 7,921 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 669 651 12192 22.6 23.4 15.9 15.9 332
Upgraded 721 693 20.4 21.5 24.3 19.6

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
790 289 565 495 250 ~9 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 380 < 460 < 500 > 420
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
7,500 m 1,290 hp 1,416 hp

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural790 km/h
Gear289 km/h
  • 6.5 mm Steel - Fore cockpit plating
  • 6.5 mm Steel - Pilot's seat
  • 9.8 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB1 752 → 2 345 Sl icon.png
RB4 046 → 5 417 Sl icon.png
SB5 764 → 7 717 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications40 500 Rp icon.png
78 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training45 000 Sl icon.png
Experts155 000 Sl icon.png
Aces820 Ge icon.png
Research Aces440 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
80 / 200 / 420 % Sl icon.png
160 / 160 / 160 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
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Radiator
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
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Engine
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
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G-suit
Research:
2 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 000 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png
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Engine injection
Research:
2 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 000 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png
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Airframe
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
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Cover
Research:
2 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 000 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png
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bmg50_belt_pack
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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bmg50_new_gun
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
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FMBC mk.1
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
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anm2_belt_pack
Research:
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Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
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anm2_new_gun
Research:
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Cost:
5 000 Sl icon.png
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Rocket Launcher M10
Research:
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Cost:
5 000 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 120 mm AN/M2 cannon
Ammunition150 rounds
Fire rate600 shots/min
Weapon 24 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun
Ammunition2 000 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Main articles: AN/M2 (20 mm), M2 Browning (12.7 mm)

The P-38J-15 is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm AN/M2 cannon, nose-mounted (150 rpg)
  • 4 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (500 rpg = 2,000 total)

Suspended armament

List of setups (2)
Setup 12 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb
Setup 26 x M8 rocket
Main articles: AN-M64A1 (500 lb), M8

The P-38J-15 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
  • 6 x M8 rockets

Usage in battles

When playing the P-38J, climb to a high altitude, search for the enemy, and then pick an enemy you feel confident in engaging.

Once these steps have been ticked off, assuming you are above the enemy target, put the Lightning into a gradual descent. This allows you to maintain a speed advantage. As you are descending, make small course corrections, so you don't give the element of surprise away by shooting too soon, overshooting, or being within view. When you are about 1-2 seconds away from your target, line your sights up and fire a short burst with your cannon and machine guns. Your target should now be heavily damaged or shot down. If you fail to damage your target, climb back up above using your energy advantage and repeat or move on.

Ground Battles
Using the Lightning in ground forces (RB) is very effective once you have unlocked the appropriate modules. FMBC Mk.1 allows you to equip 2 x 500 lb bombs, which are mounted under your wings. To help get the bombs on target, put the plane into a steep dive. As you near the ground, drop the bombs then pull up. Make sure you either pull up with altitude to spare or have a timed fuse to avoid crashing or blowing yourself up. The M10 Bazooka module allows you to equip your P-38J with 2 triple Bazooka launchers. These are attached to the lower nose panel and are very accurate. These are ideal for destroying tanks and bunkers.

Once the enemy ground units have been destroyed or you run out of external ordnance, you can use the Lightning to help maintain air superiority. This will help you secure that much-wanted victory.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Auto control available 		Controllable
Auto control available 		Controllable
Auto control available 		Separate Not controllable
1 gear 		Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent speed and climb rate
  • Incredible energy retention, great for Boom & Zoom
  • Very powerful armament, great for bomber hunting
  • Nose-mounted armament, no need for gun convergence
  • Multiple armament presets; allows it to function as a ground attack and/or air superiority fighter
  • Good roll and turn time
  • Good overall visibility in simulator matches

Cons:

  • Fuel tanks catch on fire easily
  • Low initial roll rate
  • Unable to dive to put fires out without breaking wings
  • Easy to rip wings in dives; no airbrakes installed unlike the P-38L
  • Low cannon ammunition amount compared to other planes at the rank.

History

Development

The concept of the plane was made in February 1937 when the US Army Air Corps made a requirement for a plane that had twin-engine and could act as a high-altitude interceptor that could hold a large amount of armament and ammunition. The term "interceptor" was used for the aircraft by the requirement authors, 1st Lt Benjamin S. Kelsey and Gordon P. Saville, to bypass the Air Corps' strict requirements on aircraft designs at the time. The specifications laid by these new requirements also called for a maximum speed of 360 mph (580 km/h) and able to climb to 20,000 ft altitude in six minutes, making it the toughest specifications at the time. Design proposals were made for the specifications, one of which would become the Bell P-39 Airacobra, but it was the Lockheed design team headed by Hall Hibbard and Clarence "Kelly" Johnson that made the final product. They made many designs with a twin-engine configuration. The prototypes made for the design used a twin-boom design to hold all the components of the aircraft. Various armaments were tested on the aircraft, from different machine gun combinations and autocannons. It was finally settled to four x M2 .50 cal machine guns and one Hispano 20 mm autocannon. The aircraft armament configurations, all at the nose of the aircraft, was very unusual for American aircraft design, as most of their designs and those of their foreign contemporaries had the armament mounted on the wings angled forward. Because of this mounting, the aircraft can fire at a longer distance accurately than wing-mounts.

P-38J

The P-38J model of the series was introduced into service in August 1943. Its distinctive form is the movement of the turbo-supercharger intercooler system from the leading edges of the wings to in between the oil coolers of the engine to protect them from combat damage. Thus, the J models of P-38s have a distinctive "chin" in the engine design. The empty spaces on the wing now made room for fuel tanks for an additional 55 gallons of fuel when installed. Other improvements in the P-38J were hydraulically boosted ailerons and flat bullet-proof windscreens. 2970 P-38Js were built during its production period.

Combat usage

The P-38 performed very well in the Pacific and European theatres during World War II. They were used in roles such as bomber and transport escorts, performing reconnaissance, Combat Air Patrols, ground attack, Search and Rescue and other important and critical roles.

Survivors

Unfortunately, it is estimated that only five P-38Js survive to this day. Only two of them are still airworthy.

Notable pilots

  • Major Richard Bong's infamous fighter with the Marge nose-art was a P-38J-15. Bong became the top U.S. ace of W.W. II after 40 confirmed victories (and a possible 8 more).

  • United States ace pilot Robin Olds, the only pilot to become an ace in a P-38 and P-51 during World War II.

Media

Skins
Videos
The Shooting Range #297 - Pages of History section at 04:39 discusses Robin Olds, P-38 ace.

See also

Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
  • Northrop P-61 Black Widow
  • Savoia-Marchetti SM.92

External links


Lockheed Corporation
Fighters  XP-38G · P-38E · P-38G-1 · P-38J-15 · Bong's P-38J-15 · P-38K · P-38L-5-LO · YP-38
Bombers  B-34 · PV-2D
Jet Fighters  F-80A-5 · F-80C-10
  F-104A · F-104C
Strike Aircraft  F-117
Export / License  A-29 · ▄Hudson Mk V
  ␗P-38L-1
  ␗F-104A · ▀F-104G · ␗F-104G · ▄F-104G · ▅F-104J · ▄F-104S
  The Lockheed Corporation merged with Martin Marietta Corporation in 1995 to form Lockheed Martin Corporation.
See Also  SABCA · Mitsubishi Heavy Industries · Fiat Aviation

USA twin-engine fighters
P-38  XP-38G · P-38E · P-38G-1 · P-38J-15 · Bong's P-38J-15 · P-38L-5-LO · P-38K · YP-38
P-61  P-61A-11 · P-61C-1
F7F  F7F-1 · F7F-3
Other  XF5F · XP-50 · F-82E

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