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=== Available ammunition ===
 
=== Available ammunition ===
 
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* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|Ball|Omni-purpose}}{{-}}{{Annotation|Ball|Omni-purpose}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}
 
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* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}
 
* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}
 
* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}
 
* '''Tracers:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
 
* '''Tracers:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
 
* '''Stealth:''' {{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}
 
* '''Stealth:''' {{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}
  
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* '''AP-T:''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
 
* '''AP-T:''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
  
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| Ball || 5 || 4 || 2 || 1 || 0 || 0
 
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| Ball || 855 || 0.01 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 56° || 65°
 
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| AP-T || 905 || 0.01 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 56° || 65°
 
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| AI || 855 || 0.01 || 0 || 3 || 0 || 47° || 56° || 65°
 
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===

Latest revision as of 11:19, 22 November 2024

Introducing Wiki 3.0

Description

The 7.92 mm MG 17 is a German aircraft machine gun. It sees use in-game primarily as the offensive aircraft armament of German planes, though it sees rare usage as a defensive armament as well.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

Vehicles equipped with this weapon
Fighters 
Bf 109 A  Flegel's Bf 109 A
Bf 109 B  Bf 109 B-1
Bf 109 C  Bf 109 C-1 · Bf 109 C-1 (WT Mobile)
Bf 109 E  Bf 109 E-1 · Bf 109 E-3 · Bf 109 E-4 · ▅Bf 109 E-7 · Bf 109 E-7/U2
Bf 109 F  Bf 109 F-1 · Bf 109 F-2 · Bf 109 F-4 · Bf 109 F-4/trop · ▃Bf 109 F-4 · ◐Bf 109 F-4
Bf 109 G  Bf 109 G-2 · ◐Bf 109 G-2 · ▄Bf 109 G-2 · Bf 109 G-2/trop
Fw 190 A  Fw 190 A-1 · Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U12 · ▅Fw 190 A-5
Fw 190 C  Fw 190 C
He 51  He 51 A-1 · He 51 B-1 · He 51 B-2/H · He 51 C-1 · He 51 C-1/L
He 100  He 100 D-1
He 112  He 112 B-0 · A7He1 · He 112 B-1/U2 (Germany) · He 112 B-1/U2 · He 112 B-2/U2 · He 112 V-5
S-199  Sakeen
Twin-engine fighters 
Do 17  Do 17 Z-7
Do 217  Do 217 J-1 · Do 217 J-2 · Do 217 N-1 · Do 217 N-2
Ju 88  Ju 88 C-6
Me 410  Me 410 A-1/U2
Strike aircraft 
Bf 110  Bf 110 C-6 · Bf 110 C-7 · Bf 110 F-2
Hs 129  Hs 129 B-2 · Hs 129 B-2 (Romania) · Hs 129 B-2 (Romania) · Hs 129 B-3
Me 410  Me 410 A-1
Bombers 
Ar 196  Ar 196 A-3 · ▄Ar 196 A-5
Fw 189  Fw 189 A-1
He 111  He 111 H-6 (Defensive)
He 115  He 115 C-1 (Defensive)
Hs 123  Hs 123 A-1 · ␗Hs 123 A-1
Ju 87  Ju 87 B-2 · Ju 87 D-3 · ▄Ju 87 D-3 · Ju 87 R-2 · Ju 87 R-2 Libya · ▄Ju 87 R-2

General info

It was named MG 17 to fool the allies into believing it was a late-war design, thus not being in violation of the Treaty of Versailles that prohibited the development of machine guns by Germany.

Available ammunition

Offensive belts:

  • Default: AP-T · AP-I · AI
  • Universal: AP-T · AP · AI · AP-I
  • Tracers: AP-T
  • Stealth: AI · AP · AP · AP · AI

Defensive belts:

  • Default: AP-T · Ball · Ball · AP-I · AI
  • Armoured targets: AP · AP · AP · AP-T
  • AP-T: AP-I · AP-T · AP-I · AP-T

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Ball 5 4 2 1 0 0
AP-I 8 8 6 3 2 0
AP-T 9 8 6 3 0 0
AI 3 3 3 3 3 3
AP 13 12 7 3 2 0
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Ball 855 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°
AP-I 905 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°
AP-T 905 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°
AI 855 0.01 0 3 0 47° 56° 65°
AP 865 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°

Comparison with analogues

Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.

Usage in battles

In the game, this machine gun works as all of the other rifle-calibre machine guns allowing for easier learning of ballistics.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • High muzzle velocity

Cons:

  • Low damage output
  • Easily jams

History

Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

External links


Aircraft machine guns
USA 
7.62 mm  Browning · M134 Minigun
12.7 mm  GAU-19 · M2 Browning · M3 Browning
Germany 
7.62 mm  MG3
7.92 mm  MG 15 · MG 17 · MG 81
12.7 mm  FN M3P
13 mm  MG 131
USSR 
7.62 mm  DA · GShG-7.62 · PKT · PV-1 · ShKAS
12.7 mm  A-12.7 · Berezin UB · TKB-481 · YaK-B
Britain 
7.62 mm  FN 60.30 · L8A1
7.7 mm  Browning · Lewis · Vickers E · Vickers K
Japan 
7.7 mm  Te-1 · Type 89 · Type 89 'special' · Type 92 · Type 97 navy
7.92 mm  Type 1 · Type 98
12.7 mm  Ho-103 · Ho-104
13 mm  Type 2
13.2 mm  Type 3
China 
12.7 mm  QJK99-12.7-1
Italy 
7.7 mm  Breda-SAFAT · Lewis
7.92 mm  FN Browning
12.7 mm  Breda-SAFAT · FN M3M · Scotti
France 
7.5 mm  Darne 1933 · Fabrique Nationale Mle 38 · FN Browning · MAC 1934 · MAC 1934T · Mle 33 · Mle 1923
7.62 mm  PKA
7.92 mm  FN-Browning M.36 No.3 · FN-Browning M.36 No.4
Sweden 
7.7 mm  FN-Browning M.36 No.3
8 mm  Ksp m/22 · Ksp m/22 Fh · Ksp m/22 Fv · Ksp m/22-37 R
12.7 mm  Akan m/39A · Akan m/40 · Akan m/45 · LKk/42
13.2 mm  Akan m/39 · Akan m/39A

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