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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"|Update 2.13 "Winged Lions"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a British WWII carrier-based fighter based on the [[Spitfire Mk Vc]]. It was the first version of the navalized Spitfire that featured manually folding wings, allowing for easier storage and accommodating of more fighters in the hangar bay and on the deck of an aircraft carrier. A more powerful engine was also installed, namely the Merlin 55 for the F MK III or Merlin 55M for L Mk III. A slim Aero-Vee air filter and six stack ejector type exhausts were fitted to the plane as well. The Mk III was the most produced variant of a Seafire with 1,220 built: 870 by Westland and 350 by Cunliffe Owen. In 1947, 12 Seafire Mk IIIs were stripped of naval equipment such as arresting hooks and handed over to the Irish Air Corps.
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The Seafire was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The Seafire shares main flight characteristics with its brother, the Spitfire Mk Vc, which it was developed from. It is armed with a pair of Hispano Mk.II 20 mm cannons with 120 rpg and four 7.7 mm Browning machine guns with 350 rpg all mounted in the wings. The climb rate and speed of the Mk III is subpar when compared to its contemporary enemies such as the Bf 109 G-6 or Fw-190 A-5. One of the few advantages sporting against these planes is the superb manoeuvrability of the Seafire coupled with great energy retention during manoeuvres. Effectively it could also be called a "jack of all trades, but master of none".
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
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Although the ''LF MK.III'' has a good amount of armor spread throughout the plane, do not be fooled: your enemies' guns will nearly always hit something vital. The pilot is protected by a 7 mm steel plate covering the seat, but this is not enough to stop 12.7 mm and 20 mm AP rounds, the kind you will most commonly be facing. The pilot is resistant enough to head-ons, protected by a sloped 38 mm panel of bulletproof glass, and a small amount of armor and fuel tanks in the nose.
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The Seafire LF Mk.III has little protection: your enemies' guns will nearly always hit something vital. The pilot is protected in the rear by a 7 mm steel plate covering the seat, but this is not enough to stop 12.7 mm and 20 mm AP rounds, the kind you will most commonly be facing. The pilot is protected from head-ons by a sloped 38 mm pane of bulletproof glass, and a small amount of armour and fuel tanks in the nose.
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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The ''LF MK.III'' should be played as other spitfires are: a turnfighter that can climb well. Use the plane's good climb rate to get to around 4,000 m and attack low-flying or otherwise disadvantaged opponents. Attacking bombers is not recommended, as you have little ammunition and your armament is not powerful enough to take out bombers before their defensive armament will take out you. Conserve your energy so you can stay maneuverable; it is recommended to build up speed in a straight line after reaching altitude.  
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The Seafire LF Mk.III should be played as a turnfighter with a good climb rate. Use the plane's good climb rate to get to around 4,000 m and attack low-flying or otherwise disadvantaged opponents. Attacking bombers is not recommended, as you have little ammunition and your offensive armament is not powerful enough to take out bombers before their defensive armament takes you out. Conserve your energy so you can stay manoeuvrable: it is recommended to build up speed in a straight line after reaching altitude.
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* The engine does not overheat as easily as other spitfires
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* Poor mid and high altitude performance leaves the plane vulnerable to opponents
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* Poor mid and high altitude performance
 
* Slower than nearly all opponents
 
* Slower than nearly all opponents
 
* Weak armament
 
* Weak armament
 
* Outperformed by most other fighters at its tier
 
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== History ==
 
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== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
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{{AirManufacturer Supermarine}}
 
{{Britain fighters}}
 
{{Britain fighters}}

Latest revision as of 18:48, 25 November 2024

Introducing Wiki 3.0
This page is about the British fighter Seafire LF Mk.III. For the French Seafire, see Seafire LF Mk.III (France). For other versions, see Spitfire (Family).
Seafire LF Mk.III
seafire_mk3.png
GarageImage Seafire LF Mk.III.jpg
Seafire LF Mk.III
Britain flag.png Britain
III Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
5.0 5.0 5.0
Class:
Research:26 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:76 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

The Seafire LF Mk.III was a British WWII carrier-based fighter based on the Spitfire Mk Vc. It was the first version of the navalized Spitfire that featured manually folding wings, allowing for easier storage and accommodating of more fighters in the hangar bay and on the deck of an aircraft carrier. A more powerful engine was also installed, namely the Merlin 55 for the F MK III or Merlin 55M for L Mk III. A slim Aero-Vee air filter and six stack ejector type exhausts were fitted to the plane as well. The Mk III was the most produced variant of a Seafire with 1,220 built: 870 by Westland and 350 by Cunliffe Owen. In 1947, 12 Seafire Mk IIIs were stripped of naval equipment such as arresting hooks and handed over to the Irish Air Corps.

The Seafire was introduced in Update "Winged Lions". The Seafire shares main flight characteristics with its brother, the Spitfire Mk Vc, which it was developed from. It is armed with a pair of Hispano Mk.II 20 mm cannons with 120 rpg and four 7.7 mm Browning machine guns with 350 rpg all mounted in the wings. The climb rate and speed of the Mk III is subpar when compared to its contemporary enemies such as the Bf 109 G-6 or Fw-190 A-5. One of the few advantages sporting against these planes is the superb manoeuvrability of the Seafire coupled with great energy retention during manoeuvres. Effectively it could also be called a "jack of all trades, but master of none".

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Max speed
at 3 963 m592 km/h
Turn time16 s
Max altitude10 500 m
EngineRolls-Royce Merlin-55M
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight3 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 3,963 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 561 541 10500 17.2 17.8 14.6 14.6 340
Upgraded 627 592 15.7 16.2 26.9 19.5

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
760 270 N/A N/A 230 ~10 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 321 < 400 < 350 > 500

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural760 km/h
Gear270 km/h

The Seafire LF Mk.III has little protection: your enemies' guns will nearly always hit something vital. The pilot is protected in the rear by a 7 mm steel plate covering the seat, but this is not enough to stop 12.7 mm and 20 mm AP rounds, the kind you will most commonly be facing. The pilot is protected from head-ons by a sloped 38 mm pane of bulletproof glass, and a small amount of armour and fuel tanks in the nose.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB1 063 → 1 375 Sl icon.png
RB2 485 → 3 215 Sl icon.png
SB3 704 → 4 792 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications24 800 Rp icon.png
44 900 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 100 Ge icon.png
Crew training22 000 Sl icon.png
Experts76 000 Sl icon.png
Aces500 Ge icon.png
Research Aces320 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
60 / 140 / 300 % Sl icon.png
142 / 142 / 142 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
1 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 500 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
200 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
200 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 900 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
1 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 500 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 900 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
bmg303_belt_pack
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods ammo.png
hispano_belt_pack
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
bmg303_new_gun
Research:
1 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 500 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png
Mods weapon.png
hispano_mk2_new_gun
Research:
1 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 500 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods gun camora mod.png
Mk.II year 1942
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
200 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods gun camora mod.png
Mk.II year 1943
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 900 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 12 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannon
Ammunition240 rounds
Fire rate600 shots/min
Weapon 24 x 7.7 mm Browning machine gun
Ammunition1 400 rounds
Fire rate1 000 shots/min
Main articles: Hispano Mk.II (20 mm), Browning (7.7 mm)

The Seafire LF Mk.III is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannons, wing-mounted (120 rpg = 240 total)
  • 4 x 7.7 mm Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 1,400 total)

Usage in battles

The Seafire LF Mk.III should be played as a turnfighter with a good climb rate. Use the plane's good climb rate to get to around 4,000 m and attack low-flying or otherwise disadvantaged opponents. Attacking bombers is not recommended, as you have little ammunition and your offensive armament is not powerful enough to take out bombers before their defensive armament takes you out. Conserve your energy so you can stay manoeuvrable: it is recommended to build up speed in a straight line after reaching altitude.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Not controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Separate Not controllable
1 gear 		Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • The engine doesn't overheat any faster than the engines of the other Spitfires

Cons:

  • Poor mid and high altitude performance
  • Slower than nearly all opponents
  • Weak armament
  • Outperformed by most other fighters at its tier

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins

See also

Related development

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Supermarine
Spitfires 
Merlin engine  Spitfire Mk Ia · Spitfire Mk IIa · Spitfire Mk.IIa Venture I · Spitfire Mk IIb
  Spitfire Mk Vb · Spitfire Mk Vb/trop · Spitfire Mk Vc · Spitfire Mk Vc/trop
  Spitfire F Mk IX · Spitfire F Mk IXc · Spitfire F Mk XVI
  Spitfire LF Mk IX · Plagis' Spitfire LF Mk IXc
Griffon engine  Spitfire F Mk XIVc · Spitfire F Mk XIVe · Prendergast's Spitfire FR Mk XIVe · Spitfire F Mk XVIIIe · Spitfire F Mk 22 · Spitfire F Mk 24
Export  ▄Spitfire Mk Vb/trop · ▃Spitfire LF Mk IXc · ▂Spitfire Mk IXc · Spitfire Mk IXc · Spitfire Mk.IX (CW) · Weizman's Spitfire LF Mk.IXe · ▄Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
Seafires  Seafire LF Mk.III · Seafire F Mk XVII · Seafire FR 47
Export  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III
Jet fighters  Attacker FB 1 · Attacker FB.2 · Scimitar F Mk.1 · Swift F.1 · Swift F.7
Hydroplanes  Walrus Mk.I

Britain fighters
Fury  Fury Mk I · Fury Mk II
Nimrod  Nimrod Mk I · Nimrod Mk II
Gladiator  Gladiator Mk II · Tuck's Gladiator Mk II · Gladiator Mk IIF · Gladiator Mk IIS
Sea Gladiator  Sea Gladiator Mk I
Hurricane  Hurricane Mk I/L · Hurricane Mk.I/L FAA M · Hurricane Mk IIB/Trop
Sea Hurricane  Sea Hurricane Mk IB · Sea Hurricane Mk IC
Martin-Baker  MB.5
Spitfire (early-Merlin)  Spitfire Mk Ia · Spitfire Mk IIa · Spitfire Mk.IIa Venture I · Spitfire Mk IIb · Spitfire Mk Vb/trop · Spitfire Mk Vb · Spitfire Mk Vc/trop · Spitfire Mk Vc
Spitfire (late-Merlin)  Spitfire F Mk IX · Spitfire LF Mk IX · Spitfire F Mk IXc · Plagis' Spitfire LF Mk IXc · Spitfire F Mk XVI
Spitfire (Griffon)  Spitfire F Mk XIVc · Spitfire F Mk XIVe · Prendergast's Spitfire FR Mk XIVe · Spitfire F Mk XVIIIe · Spitfire F Mk 22 · Spitfire F Mk 24
Seafire  Seafire LF Mk.III · Seafire F Mk XVII · Seafire FR 47
Typhoon  Typhoon Mk Ia · Typhoon Mk Ib · Typhoon Mk Ib/L
Tempest  Tempest Mk II · Tempest Mk V
Sea Fury  Sea Fury FB 11
Twin-engine fighters  Hornet Mk.I · Hornet Mk.III · Whirlwind Mk I · Whirlwind P.9
  Foreign:
Australia  ▄Boomerang Mk I · ▄Boomerang Mk II
France  ▄D.520 · ▄D.521
USA  ▄Martlet Mk IV · ▄Corsair F Mk II · ▄Hellcat Mk II · ▄Thunderbolt Mk.1 · ▄Mustang Mk IA

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