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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} French fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/5962-special-festive-quest-en|2018 "Festive Quest"]] event.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} French fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/5962-special-festive-quest-en|2018 "Festive Quest"]] event.
  
 
Designed by Bloch to be equal to the Luftwaffe Bf 109 "Emil" fighter, it performs this role in War Thunder as well, being able to compete with the Emils on a more than even footing.
 
Designed by Bloch to be equal to the Luftwaffe Bf 109 "Emil" fighter, it performs this role in War Thunder as well, being able to compete with the Emils on a more than even footing.
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The Bloch M.B.152C1 is a "jack of all, master of none" type of plane. However, unlike other planes in this category, the M.B.152 will perform admirably in most combat situations it's thrown in. Wielding a pair of the powerful Hispano 404s, complemented by a pair of 7.5 mm MAC 1934, it can shred fighters and attackers in a few well-aimed shots.
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The Bloch M.B.152C1 is a "jack of all, master of none" type of plane. However, unlike other planes in this category, the M.B.152 will perform admirably in most combat situations it's thrown into. Wielding a pair of the powerful Hispano 404s, complemented by a pair of 7.5 mm MAC 1934, it can shred fighters and attackers in a few well-aimed shots.
  
 
When flying the Bloch, you can put it into most fighting styles and it will perform fairly well in all of them, with the exception of Boom-&-Zoom due to its mediocre speed, especially when compared to contemporaries like the early Emil Bf 109s. It is, however, suited to energy dogfighting due to its above-average energy retention, good turn rate and acceptable climb rate, so it is recommended to use it in this style.
 
When flying the Bloch, you can put it into most fighting styles and it will perform fairly well in all of them, with the exception of Boom-&-Zoom due to its mediocre speed, especially when compared to contemporaries like the early Emil Bf 109s. It is, however, suited to energy dogfighting due to its above-average energy retention, good turn rate and acceptable climb rate, so it is recommended to use it in this style.
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Latest revision as of 21:55, 18 July 2022

M.B.152C1
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M.B.152C1
AB RB SB
3.0 2.3 2.3
Show in game
MARKET

Description

The M.B.152C1 is a premium gift rank II French fighter with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB) and 2.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced during Update 1.85 "Supersonic", as a reward for the 2018 "Festive Quest" event.

Designed by Bloch to be equal to the Luftwaffe Bf 109 "Emil" fighter, it performs this role in War Thunder as well, being able to compete with the Emils on a more than even footing.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 5 500 m485 km/h
Turn time19 s
Max altitude9 000 m
EngineGnome et Rhône 14 N 25
TypeRadial
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight3 t

The Bloch M.B.152C1 is a "jack of all, master of none" type of plane. However, unlike other planes in this category, the M.B.152 will perform admirably in most combat situations it's thrown into. Wielding a pair of the powerful Hispano 404s, complemented by a pair of 7.5 mm MAC 1934, it can shred fighters and attackers in a few well-aimed shots.

When flying the Bloch, you can put it into most fighting styles and it will perform fairly well in all of them, with the exception of Boom-&-Zoom due to its mediocre speed, especially when compared to contemporaries like the early Emil Bf 109s. It is, however, suited to energy dogfighting due to its above-average energy retention, good turn rate and acceptable climb rate, so it is recommended to use it in this style.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 5,500 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 461 444 9000 20.1 20.9 7.0 7.0 300
Upgraded 514 485 17.9 19.0 16.1 10.8

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
830 310 N/A N/A 270 ~16 ~16
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 350 < 350 < 400 > 340

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear310 km/h
  • 10 mm steel plate behind the pilot
  • 10 mm steel plate in front of the cockpit, behind the engine
  • 3 mm steel box in the fuselage that serves little purpose

The 152 has the unique feature of being equipped with 10 mm steel plates in front of and behind the pilot, something that is not common for 2.3 fighters. However, this armour doesn't help much versus cannon-armed fighters, as it seems to be particularly vulnerable to 20 mm shells.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB879 Sl icon.png
RB451 Sl icon.png
SB759 Sl icon.png
Crew training2 300 Sl icon.png
Experts15 000 Sl icon.png
Aces125 Ge icon.png
Research Aces320 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 40 / 60 / 160 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 112 / 112 / 112 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS(a)
Mods ammo.png
7_5mm_belt_pack
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mac39_new_gun
Mods ammo.png
hispano_belt_pack
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
hispano_404_new_gun

Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition120 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min
Ammunition1 000 rounds
Fire rate1 350 shots/min

The M.B.152C1 is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannons, wing-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total)
  • 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 1,000 total)

In terms of belts, the 7.5 mm "Tracers" belt is made up entirely of incendiary rounds, but have low penetration values, so "Universal" is a decent choice due to the inclusion of AP rounds. The recommended cannon belts are either "Stealth" if you are confident in your aim, or "Universal" if you are just learning the trajectory of the Hispano guns.

Usage in battles

As stated before, the Bloch can fit into any combat style the pilot can put it in, with the exception of Boom-&-Zoom, and even in that role, it is decent. The main tactic one should use is energy dogfighting, a mix of energy fighting and dogfighting. Attempt to gain altitude, preferably 4,000 meters, then search for a low flying target. Once you find your prey, examine their energy state and potential energy, determine whether the plane they are flying is superior to yours, then you can choose if you can engage or not. During an engagement, do not let the opponent lock you into rolling manoeuvres, such as the rolling scissors, as the Bloch's roll rate is mediocre at best.

Particular enemies to note are as follows
  • BF 109s: Although the Bloch was designed to be equal to the Emils of the time, the legendary Messerschmitts can give you a run for your money. You will mostly encounter the E-1s through E-4s, and they will be able to out-speed you by a large margin. However, you can turn better than them, although be sure to make effective use of the rudders. Under no circumstance, allow a cannon-armed Emil get a clean shot on you. This will almost certainly critically damage you, if not down the plane.
  • Early Spitfires: While the 152 never had to fight Spitfires in real life, War Thunder poses this threat. The famed British fighters outclass you in every way, shape and form. Do not engage with a Spitfire unless it is critically damaged or you are sure to down them.
  • Yaks: The Yak-1 is one of your most formidable adversaries. It out-speeds, out-turns and out-climbs you by a large margin, while also sporting powerful armament. However, all Soviet fighters lose significant performance above 2-3k meters and have a very weak airframe. Attempt to engage one at around 4,000 meters and employ an energy fighting combat style with an emphasis on speed.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Decent acceleration
  • Competitive turning abilities
  • Average climb rate
  • High dive speed
  • Extremely powerful armament that can shred anything it comes across
  • Can be used effectively in almost any combat style
  • Has premium bonuses allowing for faster research
  • Low cannon ammo count is offset by their slow fire rate
  • Has 10 mm steel plates in front of and behind the pilots

Cons:

  • Mediocre speed
  • Low cannon ammunition count
  • 7.5 mm MGs are underwhelming
  • All armaments are located in the wings, resulting in significant convergence
  • Not really good at any specific combat style
  • No bulletproof glass
  • Vulnerable to < 12.7 mm weapons
  • Lower-than-average credit reward bonus among its peers at the rank

History

A French fighter from the initial period of war. During the Battle of France, pilots in MB.152s won no less than 180 victories in the air. This rank II fighter controls very nicely and can reach a maximum speed near 500 km/h. It is equipped with a pair of 20mm Hispano-Suiza cannons and two French 7.5mm MAC 1934 machine guns.

The MB.152C-1 is a single-engine monoplane fighter that went into production in 1938. Its designers prioritized the aircraft's flight characteristics – its air-cooled radial engine put out 1,080 horsepower (quite respectable for the time) and was generally on equal footing with the early "Emils," Bf 109 fighters from the "E" series. The armament was also extremely modern, and the familiar rifle-calibre machine guns were backed up by 20mm cannons.

- From Devblog

Media

Skins

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Dassault Aviation
WW2
Fighters  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Bombers  M.B.162 · M.B.174A-3 · M.B.175T
Jet Aircraft 
M.D 450  M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystère  M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA
Super Mystère  Super Mystere B2
Étendard  Etendard IVM
Super Étendard  Super Etendard
Alpha Jet  Alpha Jet E**
Mirage 
Mirage III  Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan
Mirage V  Mirage 5F
Mirage F1  Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Mirage 2000  Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV
Mirage 4000  Mirage 4000
Export 
M.D 450  M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystere  Mystere IVA
Super Mystère  Sambad · Sa'ar***
Mirage  Shahak · ▄Mirage 5BA · ␗Mirage 2000-5Ei
  *The company was named "Société des Avions Marcel Bloch" before being renamed in 1947
  **Jointly manufactured with Dornier Flugzeugwerke
  ***Israeli Super Mystère refitted with new avionics and an American engine
See also  SABCA

France fighters
Dewoitine  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520
Morane-Saulnier  M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410
Arsenal  V.G.33C-1
Bloch  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Caudron  C.R.714
Sud-Ouest  S.O.8000 Narval
American  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA
  ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B
Other countries  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900
Belgium  ▄Gladiator Mk I · ▄Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
Netherlands  ◘Sea Fury FB 51

France premium aircraft
Fighters  D.371 H.S.9 · Pallier's D.510 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · F-6C-10-NA
  M.B.152C1 · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900 · S.O.8000 Narval
Jet fighters  ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · Milan · Mirage F1C-200
Strike aircraft  ▄AD-4NA · F-84F IAF
Bombers  Late 298D · ▄PBY-5A Late
Jet bombers  Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN

Winter events
2022  Winter Quest
Pilot stars  Late 298D · ◄Tornado IDS MFG
Tanker stars  T-80UM2
Sailor stars  USS Newport News
2021  Operation W.I.N.T.E.R.
Pilot stars  C. 202D · ◊MiG-23MF
Tanker stars  A.C.I · AGS
Sailor stars  IJN Hayanami · MPK Pr.201K
2020  Operation W.I.N.T.E.R.
Pilot stars  Ro.57 Quadriarma · MiG-21PFM
Tanker stars  E.B.R. (1954) · Class 3 (P)
Sailor stars  Type K-8 No.13 · USS Baltimore
2019  Operation F.R.O.S.T.
Pilot stars  TIS MA · J6K1
Tanker stars  QF 3.7 Ram · ▃Merkava Mk.2B
Sailor stars  PT-811 · Jaguar
2018  Festive Quest
Pilot stars  M.B.152C1 · Fw 190 C
Tanker stars  SU-85A · T30
Christmas Lights  P-43A-1 · Comet I "Iron Duke IV"
2017  Festive Quest
Pilot christmas toys  P-40C · NC.900
Tanker christmas toys  AEC Mk II · Ersatz M10
Christmas Lights  Fw 189 A-1 · KV-2 (1940)
2016  Winter Holiday
Pilot stages  Ki-21-I hei · Me 262 A-2a
Tanker stages  ▃LVT(A)(4) (ZIS-2) · ▂Type 62
2015  War Thunder Fulfills Your Wishes!
Pilot reward  ▂P-63C-5
Tanker reward  VK 45.01 (P)
2014  Holiday War Thunder Marathon!
Pilot reward  I-301
Tanker reward  M8A1 GMC