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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Japanese twin-engine heavy fighter/interceptor prototype developed from the [[Ki-96]] and [[Ki-102 otsu|Ki-102]] models. It was designed to counter the high-altitude American bombers such as the [[B-29A-BN|B-29 Superfortress]]. It had a pressurized cockpit, a 37 mm nose cannon and two 20 mm chin cannons. It was powered by two Mitsubishi Ha-112-II Ru turbosupercharged radial engines. Only four Ki-108s were built and none saw combat before the end of the war.
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It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]]. The Ki-108 is a formidable heavy fighter that boasts strong armament, respectable climb performance, and reasonable manoeuvrability. Its main drawback is its vulnerable engines that can be crippled by enemy fire. The optimal strategy for this plane is to intercept bombers from the front or side and evade their rear gunners. The plane can also handle fighters that are lower than it, but it should not challenge them on equal footing, as it lacks dogfighting and escape capabilities. The plane should climb to the side of the map and have friendly cover above it. If the plane faces enemy fighters at high altitude without allies, it should be cautious and strike when they are unsuspecting.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese twin-engine fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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* 12 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
 
* 12 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
 
* 12 mm Steel - Pilot's backrest
 
* 12 mm Steel - Pilot's backrest
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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The Ki-108's assets are its excellent guns (especially the 37 mm Ho-204 with its quick rate of fire; the 20 mm are unimpressive but will give you a chance to finish a wounded enemy), its climbing speed, and its fairly good manoeuvrability for a plane with so much firepower. Its main weakness is its engine vulnerability. Use the climb rate and speed to engage bombers from the front or front-side, down or cripple, disengage to reload, climb back and repeat. Do not engage bombers from behind as even a [[B-18A]] or [[B-34]] has a good chance of crippling you with its tail gunners. Fighters climbing towards you are reasonably easy prey, but try to avoid confrontations where you do not have an altitude advantage, as your dogfighting ability is low and your escape speed is unimpressive if you don't start with a strong advantage.
 
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In Air AB, it's best to side climb, as even when fully upgraded, the Ki-108 will not outclimb aircraft such as the [[Bf 109 F-4]]. The Ki-108 performs best when there are teammates above you to provide you with cover - if you find yourself alone at high altitude against single-engine enemy fighters, you'll have to be very wary of them and take them out when they least expect it - a Ki-108 probably won't beat something like a Bf 109 F-4 in a 1 v 1 engagement unless it comes in with an element of surprise or a significant altitude or speed advantage.
 
  
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Overall, a fantastic interceptor at its battle rating, good enough to regularly score Survivor awards.
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For Arcade Battles: the Ki-108's assets are its excellent guns (especially the Ho204 37mm with its quick rate of fire; the 20mm are unimpressive but will give you a chance to finish a wounded enemy), its climbing speed and its fairly good maneuverability for a plane with that much firepower. Its main weakness is its engine vulnerability. Use climb rate and speed to engage bombers from the front or front-side, kill or cripple, disengage to reload and climb back, repeat ad nauseam. Do not engage bombers from behind as even a B18 or B34 has a good chance of crippling or killing you with its tail gunners. Fighters climbing towards you are reasonably easy prey, but try to avoid confrontations where you do not have an altitude advantage, as your dogfighting ability is low and your escape speed is unimpressive if you don't start with a strong advantage. Overall a fantastic interceptor at its battle rating, good enough to regularly score Survivor awards.
  
 
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* Powerful armaments
 
* Powerful armaments
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* Decent climbrate
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
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* Poor roll rates at low and high speeds
 
* Poor roll rates at low and high speeds
 
* Highly flammable
 
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* [[wt:en/news/5365-development-kawasaki-ki-108-the-final-dragon-slayer-en|[Devblog] Kawasaki Ki-108: The Final Dragon Slayer]]
 
* [[wt:en/news/5365-development-kawasaki-ki-108-the-final-dragon-slayer-en|[Devblog] Kawasaki Ki-108: The Final Dragon Slayer]]
 
* [https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1478 Military Factory - Kawasaki Ki-108]
 
* [https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1478 Military Factory - Kawasaki Ki-108]
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Ki-108 Kai

Description

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The Ki-108 Kai is a rank Japanese twin-engine fighter with a battle rating of (AB), (RB), and (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm".

General info

Flight performance

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 8,000 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 597 580 22.1 22.9 8.4 8.4 600
Upgraded 649 622 20.4 21.0 16.9 12.1

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
460 460 260 ~10 ~7
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 360 < 400 < 400 > 312

Survivability and armour

  • 12 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
  • 12 mm Steel - Pilot's backrest

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main articles: Ho-204 (37 mm), Ho-5 (20 mm)

The Ki-108 Kai is armed with:

  • 1 x 37 mm Ho-204 cannon, nose-mounted (35 rpg)
  • 2 x 20 mm Ho-5 cannons, chin-mounted (200 rpg = 400 total)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

For Arcade Battles: the Ki-108's assets are its excellent guns (especially the Ho204 37mm with its quick rate of fire; the 20mm are unimpressive but will give you a chance to finish a wounded enemy), its climbing speed and its fairly good maneuverability for a plane with that much firepower. Its main weakness is its engine vulnerability. Use climb rate and speed to engage bombers from the front or front-side, kill or cripple, disengage to reload and climb back, repeat ad nauseam. Do not engage bombers from behind as even a B18 or B34 has a good chance of crippling or killing you with its tail gunners. Fighters climbing towards you are reasonably easy prey, but try to avoid confrontations where you do not have an altitude advantage, as your dogfighting ability is low and your escape speed is unimpressive if you don't start with a strong advantage. Overall a fantastic interceptor at its battle rating, good enough to regularly score Survivor awards.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Auto control available 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Separate Not controllable
1 gear 		Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 20 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 20 mm cannons
III Wings repair Engine New 37 mm cannons
IV Engine injection Cover

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful armaments
  • Decent climbrate

Cons:

  • Serious overheating issues even without WEP
  • The 37 mm are inaccurate even once upgraded
  • Low ammo counts; require trigger discipline
  • Poor roll rates at low and high speeds
  • Highly flammable

History

Development of the Ki-108 began in April 1943 after Kawasaki wanted to fulfil a standing requirement with the Japanese Army for a heavy interceptor that initially began with the Ki-45 heavy fighter series. The Ki-108's design was derived mostly from the previous Ki-102 project and took some elements of the Ki-96 as well, effectively combining the two designs into one. After the first B-29 Superfortress bombers made their appearance over the Japanese home islands, the need for such a high-altitude interceptor became even more emphasized. Two Ki-102 otsu airframes were taken from the assembly line in 1944 to produce the initial Ki-108 prototypes. Compared to the Ki-102, which was intended as a low-altitude attack aircraft, the Ki-108 was an interceptor meant for high altitude operations. To allow for this, the Ki-108's cockpit had to be significantly reduced in size and was to be hermetically sealed. This effectively turned the Ki-108 into a single-seater, reduced weight and decreased the strain on the engines all at the same time, which allowed for better performance at higher altitudes.

The two initial prototypes were completed in July and August 1944, respectively. An improved version of the Ki-108 was designed based around the Ki-102 Hei, featuring a wider wingspan and a longer fuselage, in an effort to improve high-altitude handling. Two examples of the Ki-108 Kai variant were built and subsequently tested in 1945. However, the worsening war situation for Japan prematurely concluded testing of the type and both versions never left prototype stage, yet alone seeing combat. A total of four Ki-108s were manufactured between 1944 - 1945.

- From Devblog

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Kawasaki Aircraft Industries (川崎航空機工業株式会社)
Biplane Fighters  Ki-10-I · Ki-10-I C · Ki-10-II · Ki-10-II C
Fighters  Ki-61-I ko · Ki-61-I otsu · Ki-61-I hei · Tada's Ki-61-I hei · Ki-61-I tei · Ki-61-II Otsu Kai
  Ki-100 · Ki-100-II
Interceptors  Ki-45 ko · Ki-45 otsu · Ki-45 hei · Ki-45 tei
  Ki-96
  Ki-102 otsu
  Ki-108 Kai
Bombers  Ki-32
  Ki-48-II otsu
Captured  ␗Ki-45 hei/tei · ␗Ki-61-I otsu · ▃Ki-61-Ib
See also  Kawasaki Shipyard Co.

Japan twin-engine fighters and strike aircraft
Navy 
Land-based Fighter 
J1N  J1N1
J5N  J5N1
Army 
Ki-45  Ki-45 ko · Ki-45 otsu · Ki-45 hei · Ki-45 tei
Ki-83  Ki-83
Ki-96  Ki-96
Ki-102  Ki-102 otsu
Ki-108  Ki-108 Kai
Ki-109  Ki-109

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