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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].
 
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The J28B is a early war jet known as the Vampire FB 5 in the British tech tree. It was ordered in large numbers by the Swedish air force to take a leap into the jet age. The Vampire family is known for its great dogfightning capabilities, meaning the J28B can comfortably fend off several opponents at once if controlled by a skillful pilot. This aerial performace is given at the cost of engine power.
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The J28B is an early war jet known as the [[Vampire FB 5]] in the British tech tree. It was ordered in large numbers by the Swedish air force to leap into the jet age. The Vampire family is known for its great dogfighting capabilities, meaning the J28B can comfortably fend off several opponents at once if controlled by a skillful pilot. This aerial performance is given at the cost of engine power.
 
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
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The J28B performs well at low altitude where it easily outturns most opponents it faces. Thanks to excellent flaps and air brakes, a pilot aware of his/her energy can fend off anyone that picks a fight. The flaps can be utilized at various speeds to outturn any enemy at any time. It is generally dogfights that the vampire platform shines. Although the power is lackluster, a pilot aware of his surroundings and enemies will have no difficulty avoiding incoming enemies. This lack of engine power will however cripple the J28B when it comes to accelleration. A vampire tends to loose a lot of speed when engaged in turning. So gaining it back to defend itself from new targets becomes a hassle. And even if a J28B pilot manages to get his/her speed up, catching a target will be close to impossible with a slow top speed. This lack in power hinders the vampire in many ways, mostly related to energy. This is why "vamp" pilots are adviced to climb at the beginning of a match, despite the lack of a decent climb rate.
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The J28B performs well at low altitude where it easily outturns most opponents it faces. Thanks to excellent flaps and air brakes, a pilot aware of his/her energy can fend off anyone that picks a fight. The flaps can be utilized at various speeds to outturn any enemy at any time. It is generally dogfights that the vampire platform shines. Although the power is lackluster, a pilot aware of his surroundings and enemies will have no difficulty avoiding incoming enemies. This lack of engine power will, however, cripple the J28B when it comes to acceleration. A vampire tends to lose a lot of speed when engaged in turning. So gaining it back to defend itself from new targets becomes a hassle. And even if a J28B pilot manages to get his/her speed up, catching a target will be close to impossible with a slow top speed. This lack of power hinders the vampire in many ways, mostly related to energy. This is why "vamp" pilots are advised to climb at the beginning of a match, despite the lack of a decent climb rate.
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The J28B performs identical to the Vampire FB 5 which should not come as a surprise. The fire power is what makes them different however. The J28B is outfitted with the Swedish Akan m/47B (short for "Automatkanon"), which is the Swedish designation of the British hispano mk.V, although Even though the caliber and fire rate is the same, the burst mass is larger. This has to do with the Swedish ammunition. The Swedish ammo type contains more TNT and is fully tracer equipped, meaning stealth isn't a option. Despite this downside the guns perform closer to the american AN/M3 guns instead of the british Hispanos, making the J28B the most effective vampire in regards to shooting. The J28B is also outfitted with several types of anti tank and ship rockets. Despite lacking the large 1000lb bombs the FB 5 offers, the rockets offers a much different experience compared to the original model. The rockets fire one at a time held on by a Swedish rocket rack, pointing them further down than usual. The average pilot, especially the ones coming from the FB 5, will find this new placement tricky to get used to. But concidering the single fire system, a skilled pilot might be able to rank up more kills in tank battles compared to the FB 5.
 
  
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The J28B performs identically to the Vampire FB 5 which should not come as a surprise. The firepower is what makes them different, however. The J28B is outfitted with the Swedish Akan m/47B (short for "Automatkanon"), which is the Swedish designation of the British Hispano Mk.V, although Even though the caliber and fire rate is the same, the burst mass is larger. This has to do with the Swedish ammunition. The Swedish ammo type contains more TNT and is fully tracer equipped, meaning stealth isn't an option. Despite this downside, the guns perform closer to the American AN/M3 guns instead of the British Hispanos, making the J28B the most effective vampire in regards to firing. The J28B is also outfitted with several types of anti-tank and ship rockets. Despite lacking the large 1000lb bombs the FB 5 offers, the rockets offer a much different experience compared to the original model. The rockets fire one at a time held on by a Swedish rocket rack, pointing them further down than usual. The average pilot, especially the ones coming from the FB 5, will find this new placement tricky to get used to. But considering the single fire system, a skilled pilot might be able to rank up more kills in tank battles compared to the FB 5. If this becomes too sufferable, however, it is recommended to use rocket salvo instead to fire off two rockets at once, for a more traditional feel. It's not worth sacrificing accuracy for efficiency when it comes to rockets.
 
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The J28B has the same armour as the Vampire FB 5 as well as the Italian Vampire FB 52A. Despite being deadly in a headon due to the beefed up guns, A vampire should never fully commit to a headon engagement, the bulletproof glass will however, save the pilot most of the time. The tail section is not easily saved though. The twin boom makes it twice as likely to hit the traction of control surfaces. This leaves the J28B completely useless usually resulting in abandonment of the aircraft, which should be avoided at all costs.
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The J28B has the same armour as the Vampire FB 5 as well as the Italian [[Vampire FB 52A]]. Despite being dangerous in a head-on due to the beefed-up guns, A J28B should never fully commit to a headon engagement, the bulletproof glass will, however, save the pilot most of the time. The tail section is not easily saved though. The twin-boom makes it twice as likely to hit the traction of control surfaces. This leaves the J28B completely useless usually resulting in abandonment of the aircraft, which should be avoided at all costs.
  
 
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A J28B pilot should always be aware of his/her speed and altitude, or energy in more advanced terms. To avoid enemies with superior engine power using you as a boom and zoom target, a J28B pilot should use altitude to their advantage. Since the vampire platform is bad at building up energy, the pilot should store as much energy as possible for when the battle begins. Before engaging targets, it can also be useful to always keep a speed of at least 400kph to limit the number of options an enemy has to counterattack. This also helps the J28B to swiftly turn around and begin a dogfight if the opponent commits to one. This playstyle can be applied to every vampire plane in the game since they perform mostly the same. The J28B has to watch out for [[Ho 229 V3]] players, however, since they can outmatch the J28B in turning. A good way to counter the Horten is to make it bleed speed. Forcing it to turn once or twice and then extending away from the enemy aircraft.
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A playstyle close to that of a propeller-driven aircraft can be applied. Where energy is the key to survival. The J28B has quite the firepower compared to the other vampire models. This can reward players who can safely head-on from a distance and then avoid incoming shots from the enemy. This will usually result in a crit or kill if the enemy doesn't avoid as well. The fired rounds are quite deadly and require less guntime compared to the British counterpart. This gives the J28B an overall higher chance of surviving since it can afford to spend less time on each target. A pilot comfortable with his or her aim will easily outsmart opponents and make them think twice before engaging in a dogfight.
  
 
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== History ==
 
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The Swedish air force studied carefully what was happening at the front of the 2nd world war, and by 1944 it was already obvious that the propeller era was coming to a close. By early 1945, the Swedes had already begun a project to power the Saab J21 with a ramjet. However, it seemed this project would take far too long. By autumn of 1945, the J29 project was also beginning to take shape. But even this project wouldn't take to the skies until 1949, so a foreign design had to do until then.
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The British De Havilland Vampire was one of the first jet-powered fighter planes to enter the market, and Sweden was very interested in this design. In early 1946, Sweden ordered 70 Vampire F Mk 1 models designated J28A, thus becoming one of the first customers of the Vampire. This version was mostly used as practice for the new era of jet-driven aircraft. But the Swedes became fond of the design. So when the export version of the Vampire FB 5 entered the market known as the Mk 50, Sweden was very interested and orders started in 1949. This version was to be known as the J28B or A28B depending on suspended armaments. This version differed from the Mk 1 by having a renewed, rounder tail section, and a lower placed elevator. The engine was upgraded from the RM1 to the RM1A that was now produced by SFA (Svenska flygmotor AB) in Sweden and delivered to de Havilland in Britain for installation. The main armament was also changed from the Hispano Mk II to the more potent Hispano Mk V. By 1952, 310 J28B vampires had been delivered to Sweden. 12 of these would be rebuilt as a two-seat trainer, known as the J28C-3.
  
 
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Revision as of 12:17, 9 January 2020

Introducing Wiki 3.0
A28B
vampire_fb5_j28b.png
A28B
Sweden flag.png Sweden
V Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
7.7 8.0 7.7
Class:
Research:95 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:270 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
This page is about the Swedish jet fighter A28B. For other version, see Vampire FB 5.

Description

The A28B is a rank V Swedish jet fighter with a battle rating of 7.7 (AB/SB) and 8.0 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.95 "Northern Wind".

The J28B is an early war jet known as the Vampire FB 5 in the British tech tree. It was ordered in large numbers by the Swedish air force to leap into the jet age. The Vampire family is known for its great dogfighting capabilities, meaning the J28B can comfortably fend off several opponents at once if controlled by a skillful pilot. This aerial performance is given at the cost of engine power.

GarageImage A28B.jpg

General info

Flight performance

The J28B performs well at low altitude where it easily outturns most opponents it faces. Thanks to excellent flaps and air brakes, a pilot aware of his/her energy can fend off anyone that picks a fight. The flaps can be utilized at various speeds to outturn any enemy at any time. It is generally dogfights that the vampire platform shines. Although the power is lackluster, a pilot aware of his surroundings and enemies will have no difficulty avoiding incoming enemies. This lack of engine power will, however, cripple the J28B when it comes to acceleration. A vampire tends to lose a lot of speed when engaged in turning. So gaining it back to defend itself from new targets becomes a hassle. And even if a J28B pilot manages to get his/her speed up, catching a target will be close to impossible with a slow top speed. This lack of power hinders the vampire in many ways, mostly related to energy. This is why "vamp" pilots are advised to climb at the beginning of a match, despite the lack of a decent climb rate.

The J28B performs identically to the Vampire FB 5 which should not come as a surprise. The firepower is what makes them different, however. The J28B is outfitted with the Swedish Akan m/47B (short for "Automatkanon"), which is the Swedish designation of the British Hispano Mk.V, although Even though the caliber and fire rate is the same, the burst mass is larger. This has to do with the Swedish ammunition. The Swedish ammo type contains more TNT and is fully tracer equipped, meaning stealth isn't an option. Despite this downside, the guns perform closer to the American AN/M3 guns instead of the British Hispanos, making the J28B the most effective vampire in regards to firing. The J28B is also outfitted with several types of anti-tank and ship rockets. Despite lacking the large 1000lb bombs the FB 5 offers, the rockets offer a much different experience compared to the original model. The rockets fire one at a time held on by a Swedish rocket rack, pointing them further down than usual. The average pilot, especially the ones coming from the FB 5, will find this new placement tricky to get used to. But considering the single fire system, a skilled pilot might be able to rank up more kills in tank battles compared to the FB 5. If this becomes too sufferable, however, it is recommended to use rocket salvo instead to fire off two rockets at once, for a more traditional feel. It's not worth sacrificing accuracy for efficiency when it comes to rockets.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 4572 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
817 792 10668 25.0 25.7 16.1 15.1 650
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at ?,??? m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
895 855 10668 23.5 24.0 24.4 20 650

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flaps
(km/h) 		Max Static G
+ -
888 350 520 ~10 ~5
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< 550 < 600 < 600 N/A
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
3,000 m 1,224 hp N/A

Survivability and armour

  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Armored windscreen
  • 12.7 mm Steel - Armor plate behind the pilot's head
  • 3 mm Steel - Armor plate under the engine

The J28B has the same armour as the Vampire FB 5 as well as the Italian Vampire FB 52A. Despite being dangerous in a head-on due to the beefed-up guns, A J28B should never fully commit to a headon engagement, the bulletproof glass will, however, save the pilot most of the time. The tail section is not easily saved though. The twin-boom makes it twice as likely to hit the traction of control surfaces. This leaves the J28B completely useless usually resulting in abandonment of the aircraft, which should be avoided at all costs.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: Akan m/47B (20 mm)

The A28B is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm Akan m/47B autocannons (150 RPG - 600 rounds total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: m/49A, m/51, m/49

The A28B can be outfitted with the following suspended ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 8 x m/49A unguided rockets
  • 8 x m/51 unguided rockets
  • 4 x m/49 unguided rockets

Usage in battles

A J28B pilot should always be aware of his/her speed and altitude, or energy in more advanced terms. To avoid enemies with superior engine power using you as a boom and zoom target, a J28B pilot should use altitude to their advantage. Since the vampire platform is bad at building up energy, the pilot should store as much energy as possible for when the battle begins. Before engaging targets, it can also be useful to always keep a speed of at least 400kph to limit the number of options an enemy has to counterattack. This also helps the J28B to swiftly turn around and begin a dogfight if the opponent commits to one. This playstyle can be applied to every vampire plane in the game since they perform mostly the same. The J28B has to watch out for Ho 229 V3 players, however, since they can outmatch the J28B in turning. A good way to counter the Horten is to make it bleed speed. Forcing it to turn once or twice and then extending away from the enemy aircraft.

A playstyle close to that of a propeller-driven aircraft can be applied. Where energy is the key to survival. The J28B has quite the firepower compared to the other vampire models. This can reward players who can safely head-on from a distance and then avoid incoming shots from the enemy. This will usually result in a crit or kill if the enemy doesn't avoid as well. The fired rounds are quite deadly and require less guntime compared to the British counterpart. This gives the J28B an overall higher chance of surviving since it can afford to spend less time on each target. A pilot comfortable with his or her aim will easily outsmart opponents and make them think twice before engaging in a dogfight.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Not controllable
Not auto controlled 		Not controllable
Auto control available 		Not controllable
Auto control available 		Separate Not controllable
1 gear 		Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 20 mm
II Compressor Airframe m/49A
III Wings repair Engine New 20mm cannons m/51
IV G-suit Cover m/49

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Great turning and dogfighting capabilities.
  • Stronger guns than the British/Italian counterpart.
  • Effective air-brakes that generate lift once deployed.
  • Decent ammo count.
  • Easy to land.

Cons:

  • Slow top speed.
  • Poor rate of climb.
  • Low gun placement forcing pilots to aim higher than usual.
  • Weak tail section that often suffers damage from enemy fire.

History

The Swedish air force studied carefully what was happening at the front of the 2nd world war, and by 1944 it was already obvious that the propeller era was coming to a close. By early 1945, the Swedes had already begun a project to power the Saab J21 with a ramjet. However, it seemed this project would take far too long. By autumn of 1945, the J29 project was also beginning to take shape. But even this project wouldn't take to the skies until 1949, so a foreign design had to do until then.

The British De Havilland Vampire was one of the first jet-powered fighter planes to enter the market, and Sweden was very interested in this design. In early 1946, Sweden ordered 70 Vampire F Mk 1 models designated J28A, thus becoming one of the first customers of the Vampire. This version was mostly used as practice for the new era of jet-driven aircraft. But the Swedes became fond of the design. So when the export version of the Vampire FB 5 entered the market known as the Mk 50, Sweden was very interested and orders started in 1949. This version was to be known as the J28B or A28B depending on suspended armaments. This version differed from the Mk 1 by having a renewed, rounder tail section, and a lower placed elevator. The engine was upgraded from the RM1 to the RM1A that was now produced by SFA (Svenska flygmotor AB) in Sweden and delivered to de Havilland in Britain for installation. The main armament was also changed from the Hispano Mk II to the more potent Hispano Mk V. By 1952, 310 J28B vampires had been delivered to Sweden. 12 of these would be rebuilt as a two-seat trainer, known as the J28C-3.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

Vampire family

Similar aircraft

  • J21RA
  • A21RB
  • R2Y2 Kai V1
  • R2Y2 Kai V2
  • R2Y2 Kai V3
  • Ho 229 V3
  • F3D-1

External links

De Havilland Aircraft Company Limited
Fighters  Hornet Mk.I · Hornet Mk.III · Mosquito FB Mk VI · Mosquito FB Mk XVIII
Jet fighters  Vampire F.B.5 · Venom FB.4 · Sea Venom FAW 20 · Sea Vixen F.A.W. Mk.2
Export  ␗Mosquito FB.Mk.26 · ▄Vampire FB 52A(Italy) · ▄Vampire FB 52A(Finland) · A28B

Sweden jet aircraft
Fighters  J21RA
  J29A · A29B · J29D · J29F
  J32B
  J34
  J35A · J35D
  JA37C · JA37D · JA37DI · JA37DI F21
  JAS39A · JAS39C
Strike aircraft  A21RB
  A32A · A32A Röd Adam
  A28B
  AJ37 · AJS37
  SK60B · SAAB-105G
Export  SAAB-105OE
Finland  ▄Vampire FB 52A · ▄MiG-21bis · Saab J35XS

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