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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | The ''' | + | The '''USS Candid''' was a minesweeper of the Admirable class built by the US Navy during World War II, in service between 1943 and 1945. The USS Candid was sent in 1944 to Alaska, to help in convoy escorts and to sweep mines in the area. She also supported the US Army in the Kuril islands and other areas on the north of Japan. The USS Candid also served in the Marshall Islands and the Mariana Islands providing escort services. As part of a secret program, she was transferred to the Soviet Union in 1945 under the designation '''T-283''' and served up until 1958. While the US required the return of most ships sent to the Soviet Union, the USS Candid was never returned and stayed with the USSR until it was removed from Soviet naval registers in 1958. Its fate is still uncertain. |
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+ | It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]]. The USS Candid works as a gun boat, being relatively large compared to other coastal ships of its rank like the US PT boats. The armour is nothing special, though due to her large displacement, the Candid has a detailed damage model which allows her to take a lot of hits from autocannons and is immune to any machine guns. In addition, she is very capable of dealing with other coastal ships, thanks to her powerful armament, a 3 inch Mk 10 cannon, two 40 mm Bofors L/60 cannons, and four 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon that are a big threat to enemy aircraft and smaller vessels. The USS Candid works very good defending capture points from smaller but more agile boats, and protecting destroyers and larger ships from aircraft and torpedo boats. | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}} | {{Specs-Fleet-Armour}} | ||
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− | + | With nearly 900 tons of displacement, the Candid has a detailed damage model. This alone makes her much more durable than her nominal "upgrade" the [[LCS(L)(3)]], as she is capable of shrugging off any machine gun rounds with little to no damage, and requiring a lot of hits from large caliber autocannons to take her down. In addition, the Candid's sizable crew of 95 is well spread out along the relatively large and spacious hull of the ship, allowing her to take absorb a lot of damage. | |
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=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}} | {{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}} | ||
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− | + | In terms of mobility, the USS Candid is quite slow, since she was designed as a minesweeper. She is lighter than a destroyer but heavier than PT boats, however she manages to be slower than all of them, with a top speed of 24 km/h, while most other US ships have top speeds above 30-40 km/h. This will not help her to evade incoming fire or torpedoes at close range. | |
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=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
{{Specs-Economy}} | {{Specs-Economy}} | ||
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+ | Most important modifications for the USS Candid are the mobility, the 76 mm APCBC and HE shells, the smoke screen, and the range finder, for better target acquisition. | ||
== Armament == | == Armament == | ||
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{{main|3-inch Mark 10 (76 mm)}} | {{main|3-inch Mark 10 (76 mm)}} | ||
− | + | The main armament of the USS Candid is its 76 mm Mark 10 cannon, with APCBC and HE as its main shells. The HE shells can be used with a proximity fuse, which increases effectiveness against aircraft. The only problem is that it only has 1 cannon of this type, which is not the best option to deal with heavier opponents. | |
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+ | {{:3-inch Mark 10 (76 mm)/Ammunition|76 mm HC Mk.27, 76 mm AP Mk.29, 76 mm HE-VT}} | ||
=== Secondary armament === | === Secondary armament === | ||
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{{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}} | {{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}} | ||
− | + | The USS Candid has two 40 mm Bofors cannons as its secondary armament, one on each side of the ship and located at the rear. These can be used effectively against lighter ships, such as torpedo boats, and cause a lot of damage. | |
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+ | * '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}} | ||
+ | * '''40 mm HE clips:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}} | ||
+ | * '''40 mm AP clips:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}} | ||
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+ | {{:Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)/Ammunition|HEFI-T, AP-T}} | ||
=== Anti-aircraft armament === | === Anti-aircraft armament === | ||
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{{main|20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)}} | {{main|20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)}} | ||
− | + | For anti-aircraft armament the USS Candid relies on its four Oerlikon 20 mm cannons, although the rest of the armament can also be used for anti-aircraft duties. The Oerlikon cannons offer good enough protection against slow aircraft at close ranges, but are not powerful enough to consistently destroy them at long range, instead, they are better used against scout aircraft or torpedo bombers flying low and slow. | |
=== Additional armament === | === Additional armament === | ||
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}} | {{Specs-Fleet-Additional}} | ||
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− | {{main|Mk.6 depth charge|Mk. | + | {{main|Mk.6 depth charge|Mk.6 mortar depth charge|Mk.10 Hedgehog mortar}} |
− | + | The USS Candid lacks torpedoes, which does hamper its ability to engage heavier targets such as destroyers or light cruisers. It does however have depth charges and can be fitted with a Mk.10 ''Hedgehog'' mortar and a Mk.6 mortar depth charge, which can be used to some extent against light targets, but are not as effective against heavier cruisers. | |
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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− | + | The USS Candid is a good support ship, is not the fastest nor the most armed, it has enough armament to deal with torpedo boats and protect more important assets like destroyers or cruisers from light targets. It can also provide decent anti-aircraft coverage for the fleet, however it struggles against heavy opponents due to its lack of heavy armament or torpedoes, for that reason, is highly recommended that you stay close to your team and don't engage with the main enemy fleet. | |
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | * | + | * Detailed damage model; immune to HMG fire and resistant to 20 mm autocannons |
+ | * Powerful secondary armament | ||
+ | * Large crew for increased survivability | ||
+ | * Spaced interior which decreases the chances of critical damage | ||
+ | * Good anti aircraft armament for close ranges | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * | + | |
+ | * Large target, vulnerable to torpedoes and artillery strikes | ||
+ | * Poor main armament | ||
+ | * Poor top speed and mobility | ||
+ | * Will be frequently matched against early destroyers that can easily outgun the ship | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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− | + | The USS Candid was an Admirable-class minesweeper built for the US Navy during World War 2. Commissioned in 1943, the vessel was originally classified as a coastal minesweeper, but was reclassified as a normal minesweeper. It was first deployed in 1944 for duty in the waters of Alaska and called upon to escort convoys and conduct patrols as well as to sweep mines in the area. | |
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+ | She was part of the US attacks on the Kuril Islands in the north of Japan and returned to San Francisco in August of 1944. Two weeks later she participated in operations in the Marshall Islands and the Mariana islands providing escort services in the area and support for the troops in the islands while the region was being developed to facilitate naval and air strikes against the Japanese forces. | ||
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+ | In 1945, the USS Candid was transferred to the Soviet Navy, as part of a secret plan to rearm the Soviet Navy in case that the Soviet Union decided to join the war against the Japanese forces alongside the United States. After the completion of the training of Soviet crews, the USS Candid was decommissioned from the US navy and transferred under the Lend Lease program. Under Soviet service, the USS Candid was also classified as minesweeper. In February 1946, when the Cold War was beginning, the USA began negotiations for the return of all those ships loaned to the USSR for use during World War 2. The US Navy was not particularly interested in receiving very old ships that were outmatched by more modern designs, so many American ships were merely administratively returned to the USA and instead sold for scrap in the Soviet Union. The USS Candid however was never returned, but the US Navy reclassified her as a fleet minesweeper and re-designated her as MSF 154 in 1955. Its destiny is uncertain and it disappeared from Soviet battle registries in 1958. | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=us_admirable_class Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=us_admirable_class Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
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''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
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* ''reference to the series of the ship;'' | * ''reference to the series of the ship;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
* ''other literature.'' | * ''other literature.'' |
Latest revision as of 13:09, 23 November 2024
Contents
Description
The USS Candid was a minesweeper of the Admirable class built by the US Navy during World War II, in service between 1943 and 1945. The USS Candid was sent in 1944 to Alaska, to help in convoy escorts and to sweep mines in the area. She also supported the US Army in the Kuril islands and other areas on the north of Japan. The USS Candid also served in the Marshall Islands and the Mariana Islands providing escort services. As part of a secret program, she was transferred to the Soviet Union in 1945 under the designation T-283 and served up until 1958. While the US required the return of most ships sent to the Soviet Union, the USS Candid was never returned and stayed with the USSR until it was removed from Soviet naval registers in 1958. Its fate is still uncertain.
It was introduced in Update "Red Skies". The USS Candid works as a gun boat, being relatively large compared to other coastal ships of its rank like the US PT boats. The armour is nothing special, though due to her large displacement, the Candid has a detailed damage model which allows her to take a lot of hits from autocannons and is immune to any machine guns. In addition, she is very capable of dealing with other coastal ships, thanks to her powerful armament, a 3 inch Mk 10 cannon, two 40 mm Bofors L/60 cannons, and four 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon that are a big threat to enemy aircraft and smaller vessels. The USS Candid works very good defending capture points from smaller but more agile boats, and protecting destroyers and larger ships from aircraft and torpedo boats.
General info
Survivability and armour
With nearly 900 tons of displacement, the Candid has a detailed damage model. This alone makes her much more durable than her nominal "upgrade" the LCS(L)(3), as she is capable of shrugging off any machine gun rounds with little to no damage, and requiring a lot of hits from large caliber autocannons to take her down. In addition, the Candid's sizable crew of 95 is well spread out along the relatively large and spacious hull of the ship, allowing her to take absorb a lot of damage.
Mobility
In terms of mobility, the USS Candid is quite slow, since she was designed as a minesweeper. She is lighter than a destroyer but heavier than PT boats, however she manages to be slower than all of them, with a top speed of 24 km/h, while most other US ships have top speeds above 30-40 km/h. This will not help her to evade incoming fire or torpedoes at close range.
Mobility Characteristics | |||
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Game Mode | Upgrade Status | Maximum Speed (km/h) | |
Forward | Reverse | ||
AB | |||
Upgraded | 38 | 19 | |
RB/SB | |||
Upgraded | 28 | 14 |
Modifications and economy
Most important modifications for the USS Candid are the mobility, the 76 mm APCBC and HE shells, the smoke screen, and the range finder, for better target acquisition.
Armament
Primary armament
The main armament of the USS Candid is its 76 mm Mark 10 cannon, with APCBC and HE as its main shells. The HE shells can be used with a proximity fuse, which increases effectiveness against aircraft. The only problem is that it only has 1 cannon of this type, which is not the best option to deal with heavier opponents.
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
100 m | 1,000 m | 2,000 m | 3,000 m | 4,000 m | 5,000 m | ||
HC Mk.27 | HE | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 |
AP Mk.29 | APCBC | 111 | 90 | 71 | 56 | 44 | 36 |
AA Mk.31 | HE-VT | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 |
Shell details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (s) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
HC Mk.27 | HE | 823 | 5.9 | 0 | 0.1 | 500 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
AP Mk.29 | APCBC | 823 | 5.9 | 0.01 | 4 | 133.28 | 48° | 63° | 71° |
Proximity-fused shell details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Arming distance (m) |
Trigger radius (m) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
AA Mk.31 | HE-VT | 823 | 5.85 | 0 | 0.1 | 548 | 15 | 352.8 | 79° | 80° | 81° |
Secondary armament
The USS Candid has two 40 mm Bofors cannons as its secondary armament, one on each side of the ship and located at the rear. These can be used effectively against lighter ships, such as torpedo boats, and cause a lot of damage.
- Universal: AP-T · HEFI-T
- 40 mm HE clips: HEFI-T · HEFI-T · HEFI-T · AP-T
- 40 mm AP clips: AP-T · AP-T · AP-T · HEFI-T
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | ||||||
10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
HEFI-T | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
AP-T | 81 | 78 | 68 | 58 | 49 | 41 |
Shell details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | ||||||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
HEFI-T | 874 | 0.9 | 0 | 0.1 | 67.13 | 79° | 80° | 81° | ||||
AP-T | 874 | 0.89 | - | - | - | 47° | 60° | 65° |
Anti-aircraft armament
For anti-aircraft armament the USS Candid relies on its four Oerlikon 20 mm cannons, although the rest of the armament can also be used for anti-aircraft duties. The Oerlikon cannons offer good enough protection against slow aircraft at close ranges, but are not powerful enough to consistently destroy them at long range, instead, they are better used against scout aircraft or torpedo bombers flying low and slow.
Additional armament
The USS Candid lacks torpedoes, which does hamper its ability to engage heavier targets such as destroyers or light cruisers. It does however have depth charges and can be fitted with a Mk.10 Hedgehog mortar and a Mk.6 mortar depth charge, which can be used to some extent against light targets, but are not as effective against heavier cruisers.
Usage in battles
The USS Candid is a good support ship, is not the fastest nor the most armed, it has enough armament to deal with torpedo boats and protect more important assets like destroyers or cruisers from light targets. It can also provide decent anti-aircraft coverage for the fleet, however it struggles against heavy opponents due to its lack of heavy armament or torpedoes, for that reason, is highly recommended that you stay close to your team and don't engage with the main enemy fleet.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Detailed damage model; immune to HMG fire and resistant to 20 mm autocannons
- Powerful secondary armament
- Large crew for increased survivability
- Spaced interior which decreases the chances of critical damage
- Good anti aircraft armament for close ranges
Cons:
- Large target, vulnerable to torpedoes and artillery strikes
- Poor main armament
- Poor top speed and mobility
- Will be frequently matched against early destroyers that can easily outgun the ship
History
The USS Candid was an Admirable-class minesweeper built for the US Navy during World War 2. Commissioned in 1943, the vessel was originally classified as a coastal minesweeper, but was reclassified as a normal minesweeper. It was first deployed in 1944 for duty in the waters of Alaska and called upon to escort convoys and conduct patrols as well as to sweep mines in the area.
She was part of the US attacks on the Kuril Islands in the north of Japan and returned to San Francisco in August of 1944. Two weeks later she participated in operations in the Marshall Islands and the Mariana islands providing escort services in the area and support for the troops in the islands while the region was being developed to facilitate naval and air strikes against the Japanese forces.
In 1945, the USS Candid was transferred to the Soviet Navy, as part of a secret plan to rearm the Soviet Navy in case that the Soviet Union decided to join the war against the Japanese forces alongside the United States. After the completion of the training of Soviet crews, the USS Candid was decommissioned from the US navy and transferred under the Lend Lease program. Under Soviet service, the USS Candid was also classified as minesweeper. In February 1946, when the Cold War was beginning, the USA began negotiations for the return of all those ships loaned to the USSR for use during World War 2. The US Navy was not particularly interested in receiving very old ships that were outmatched by more modern designs, so many American ships were merely administratively returned to the USA and instead sold for scrap in the Soviet Union. The USS Candid however was never returned, but the US Navy reclassified her as a fleet minesweeper and re-designated her as MSF 154 in 1955. Its destiny is uncertain and it disappeared from Soviet battle registries in 1958.
Media
- Skins
See also
Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the ship;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
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Mine Sweeper (AM) | |
Admirable-class | USS Candid |
USA boats | |
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Motor torpedo boats | PT-3 · PT-6 · PT-20 · PT-71 · PT-103 · PT-109 · PT-174 |
PT-200 · PT-314 · Thunderbolt (PT-556) · PT-565 · PT-658 · PT-810 · PT-811 · PT-812 | |
Motor gun boats | Kim Qui · LCS(L)(3) · PT-59 · PTF-7 · USS Candid · USS Asheville · USS Douglas · USS Flagstaff · USS Tucumcari · USS Cyclone |
Armoured gun boats | LCM(6) Zippo |