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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
The '''AMX International AMX''' is a ground-attack aircraft jointly developed by Brazil and Italy. The '''AMX''' is designated '''A-11 ''Ghibli''''' by the Italian Air Force and '''A-1''' by the Brazilian Air Force. The Italian name, "''Ghibli''", is taken from the hot dry wind of the Libyan desert.
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The '''Tornade''' was a French ''torpilleur'' of the [[Bourrasque (Family)|Bourrasque class]], the ninth vessel of her type, launched in February 1925. Details about her military service remain scarce, but it is believed that her primary duties before the outbreak of World War II involved patrol and escort operations. Following the French surrender in 1940, the Tornade came under the control of Vichy France. During Operation Torch in November 1942, she was stationed at Oran, a strategic location targeted by the Allied Center Task Force. At the onset of the battle, the Tornade attempted to reach open sea; however, dense smoke obscured her path, causing her to run aground on a reef. As the crew worked to repair the hull and navigate the ship out, she was struck multiple times by the British light cruiser HMS Aurora, which destroyed her stern and one of her engine rooms. The Tornade capsized to starboard shortly thereafter, on 8 November 1942.
  
=== VII Rank ===
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Introduced as a premium destroyer in [[Update "Seek & Destroy"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' suffers from a very slow turret rotation speed and a low rate of fire, but this is at least partially compensated by the large explosive filler in both HE and SAP shells. The magazines and shell rooms are located deep below the waterline, providing good protection against detonation. Her torpedoes are excellent for the battle rating, featuring long range, high speed, and a large warhead. Compared to her researchable equivalent, she is equipped with an additional pair of 13.2 mm machine guns on either side of the superstructure at deck level for anti-air defense.
  
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== General info ==
* [[AMX A-1A]]
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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The Tornade, like other Bourrasque-class destroyers, features minimal armour, instead relying on its mobility and small size to avoid being hit. The only armour that can be found on the ship are the gun shields, reaching 10 mm thick. The ship is quite compact, meaning most shots that hit the vessel will damage or destroy a component, and the small number of crew means that prolonged combat will eventually lead to its destruction.
  
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=== Mobility ===
;Vídeos
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{{Youtube-gallery|5dWETK5VPHI|AMX Ghibli the Winged Wind}}
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armament ==
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=== Primary armament ===
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{{main|130 mm/40 model 1919 (130 mm)}}
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{{:130 mm/40 model 1919 (130 mm)/Ammunition|130 mm OEA Mle 1932, 130 mm OPFA Mle 1923}}
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{{main|37 mm/50 model 1933 (37 mm)}}
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{{:37 mm/50 model 1933 (37 mm)/Ammunition|37 mm OEA Mle 1925}}
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{{main|Model 1929 Hotchkiss (13.2 mm)}}
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{{main|Model 1923DT (550 mm)}}
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'''Pros:'''
By the end of the 1970s, the Fiat G91s were obsolete. Developed in the late 1950s, they had already been in the Italian Air Force for more than 20 years.  At this time, the Italians needed new, more modern aircraft for ground attack, air support and reconnaissance.  This need resulted in a partnership between Aeritalia (now Alenia Aeronautica) and Aermacchi, because at the time both companies had similar projects for the Italian Air Force. 
 
  
On the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) needed a replacement for the obsolete AT-26 Xavante light attack and training aircraft, Which had been manufactured by the Italian company Aermacchi since the 60s. In 1981, after extensive negotiations between the countries, the Brazilian company Embraer was invited to take part in the project, resulting in the AMX-Internacional consortium. Each of the three companies was responsible for specific parts of the aircraft: 46.7% for Aeritalia (including the central fuselage), 23.6% for Aermacchi (which included the front fuselage) and 29.7% for Embraer (including the wings, landing gear and disposable fuel tanks)<ref>Brazilian air force website with a summary of the aircraft and percentages[https://www2.fab.mil.br/afa/index.php/aeronaves/378-a-1 <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>]</ref>.
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American engines were avoided, due to the fear of the Brazilians and Italians of being forced into unilateral restrictions by the United States of America. In the end, an engine from an Italian European ally, the British, was chosen, with the Rolls-Royce Spey RB.168 Mk.807. This engine was older than many of the engines available on the market, but it was considered to be very reliable.  
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'''Cons:'''
  
The test phase ran from 1984 to 1988.  Embraer delivered its first prototype in October 1985, Aeritalia produced three prototypes and finally Aermacchi and Embrear produced another two prototypes. Although an accident involving the first Italian prototype claimed the life of the test pilot Manlio Quarantell<ref>Death of Manlio Quarantelli while testing the AMX[https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manlio_Quarantelli <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>][https://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/1984/06/02/cade-il-caccia-del-futuro-il-pilota.html <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>]</ref>, the test phase was considered a success.  As a result, the first aircraft began to be delivered in May 1988, with Brazil receiving its first AMX in 1989 and acquiring a total of 45 aircraft.
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This plane has already been used by the Italian air force in conflicts in Bosnia (1995) and Kosovo (1999). Between 2009 and 2014 there were also missions in Afghanistan. Finally, Libya was also the scene of real Italian AMX missions in 2011<ref>Amx in combat [https://www.edrotacultural.com.br/amx-sera-aposentado-na-italia-em-5-de-abril/#:~:text=A%20It%C3%A1lia%20utilizou%20seus%20AMX,de%20bombas%20guiadas%20a%20laser. <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>][https://www2.fab.mil.br/musal/index.php/aeronaves-em-exposicao/55-avioes/693-amx-a1-2 <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>]</ref>. In particular, during the Kosovo war the aircraft received praise from the Americans for being “efficient, precise and reliable”.
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== History ==
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The main differences between the Italian and Brazilian versions of the game are undoubtedly the weapons. The Italians opted for a 20mm Vulcan nose cannon. On the other hand, Brazilians use a double pair of 30mm DEFA 554. Furthermore, the plane equips each nation's respective bombs and anti-aircraft missiles, with small differences between these secondary weapons. Of these weapons, the Piranha anti-aircraft missiles stand out.
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Tornade

Description

The Tornade was a French torpilleur of the Bourrasque class, the ninth vessel of her type, launched in February 1925. Details about her military service remain scarce, but it is believed that her primary duties before the outbreak of World War II involved patrol and escort operations. Following the French surrender in 1940, the Tornade came under the control of Vichy France. During Operation Torch in November 1942, she was stationed at Oran, a strategic location targeted by the Allied Center Task Force. At the onset of the battle, the Tornade attempted to reach open sea; however, dense smoke obscured her path, causing her to run aground on a reef. As the crew worked to repair the hull and navigate the ship out, she was struck multiple times by the British light cruiser HMS Aurora, which destroyed her stern and one of her engine rooms. The Tornade capsized to starboard shortly thereafter, on 8 November 1942.

Introduced as a premium destroyer in Update "Seek & Destroy", the Bourrasque-class, Tornade, 1939 suffers from a very slow turret rotation speed and a low rate of fire, but this is at least partially compensated by the large explosive filler in both HE and SAP shells. The magazines and shell rooms are located deep below the waterline, providing good protection against detonation. Her torpedoes are excellent for the battle rating, featuring long range, high speed, and a large warhead. Compared to her researchable equivalent, she is equipped with an additional pair of 13.2 mm machine guns on either side of the superstructure at deck level for anti-air defense.

General info

Survivability and armour

The Tornade, like other Bourrasque-class destroyers, features minimal armour, instead relying on its mobility and small size to avoid being hit. The only armour that can be found on the ship are the gun shields, reaching 10 mm thick. The ship is quite compact, meaning most shots that hit the vessel will damage or destroy a component, and the small number of crew means that prolonged combat will eventually lead to its destruction.

Mobility

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded
RB/SB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded

Modifications and economy

Armament

Primary armament

Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: {{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1,000 m 2,500 m 5,000 m 7,500 m 10,000 m 15,000 m
OEA Mle 1932 HE 37 37 37 37 37 37
OPFA Mle 1923 SAPBC 61 54 43 34 27 25
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
OEA Mle 1932 HE 725 34.83 0 0.1 3.96 79° 80° 81°
OPFA Mle 1923 SAPBC 725 32.05 0.035 5 1.98 48° 63° 71°

Secondary armament

Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control Select secondary weapon. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
OEA Mle 1925 HE 3 3 3 3 3 3
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
OEA Mle 1925 HE 810 0.73 0 0.1 50 79° 80° 81°

Anti-aircraft armament

An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control Select anti-aircraft weapons. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.

Additional armament

Main article: Model 1923DT (550 mm)

Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.

Usage in battles

Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".

Pros:

Cons:

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the ship;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Société Anonyme de Travaux Dyle et Bacalan
Destroyers 
Bourrasque-class  Tornade

France destroyers
Bourrasque-class  Bourrasque · Tornade
Chacal-class  Chacal · Leopard · Panthere
Aigle-class  Aigle · Vautour · Milan
Vauquelin-class  Vauquelin
Le Fantasque-class  Le Malin · Le Triomphant
Mogador-class  Mogador
Hunt-class  La Combattante
Trophies  Germany
Desaix-class¹  Kleber
Type 1936  Marceau
  Italy
Chateaurenault-class²  Guichen
  Modified: ¹Type 1934A-class destroyers · ²Capitani Romani-class cruisers

France premium ships
Motor torpedo boats  VTB-9 · VLT-2
Destroyers  Panthere · Tornade · Aigle · Le Triomphant
Light cruisers  Duguay-Trouin
Heavy cruisers  Dupleix
Battleships  Courbet