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{{About
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a squadron rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]].
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Following the end of the Cold War, and a subsequent de-escalation of the hostilities, Sweden planned to modernize its tank battalions. Trials were undertaken between 1991 and 1994. The T-80U, alongside the T-72M1, and other NATO tanks such as the M1A1, the Leclerc, and the Leopard 2A4, participated in these trials. The T-80U however joined very late to the trials, and was not properly evaluated unlike the other designs. The tank suffered from poor visibility and mobility, specially during night time where its optics were deemed much inferior to those fitted by western designs. However, the tank did have excellent protection, it was relatively easy to operate, it had a very powerful engine, and a good transmission that allowed very high top speeds without much crew discomfort. But in the end, the tank was not incorporated; instead, the Leopard 2A4 was adopted as the [[Strv 121]].
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Introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a contender in Swedish trials for a possible adoption of new tank in the 1990s, the T-80U is not too dissimilar from the Soviet [[T-80U]]. The most significant difference is the lack of 3BM46 APFSDS round for the cannon. While it lacks the most powerful kinetic round, it still has the same armour and mobility performance for players used to the T-80U playstyle to quickly acclimate to. It has also the same vulnerabilities: weak ammo racks, and a poor mobility at least compared to western designs. It uses a carousel autoloader, which means that the rounds are very exposed inside the vehicle.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 
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Just like any other Russian MBT, the ammunition is in the turret basket, the middle of the hull. Therefore ammo hits are extremly critical. The gunner and commander are inside the turret which is autoloaded. The commander can take over gun controls if the gunner is taken out. The driver is surrounded by fuel tanks as well as the engine and a part of the ammo stowage. Due to it's bad reverse speed it is relatively restricted when it comes to retreat.
  
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'''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
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'''Armour type:''' The whole Hull: High Hardness Armor, Inside armor: Front: Contact-5 ERA and composite armor | Turret: Cast Homogenous Armor, Contact-5 ERA on the turret face and upper back side of the turret, inside: composite armor | Sideskirts: High Hardness Armor (17 mm), Contact-5 ERA  | Rubber sideskirts (10mm) | Some (not necessary) parts made of construction steel<!-- The whole Hull: High Hardness Armor
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Turret: Cast Homogenous Armor
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| Turret || 300 -1660 mm ''Turret front'' <br>20-250 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 150 -900 mm || 65 - 1500 mm || 45 - 650 mm
 
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| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
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| Cupola || 45 mm || 45 mm || 45 mm || 45 mm
 
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'''Notes:''' The armor thickness varies a lot. The effective armor values are often higher than the actual part(steel) is thick.
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'''Suspension:''' Suspension wheels are 20 mm; the tracks are 20 mm, the suspension itself is also 20 mm
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=== Mobility  ===
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Motor: Klimov GTD-1250, Gas turbine | Power: 1106 horsepowers, 3154 rotations per minute
  
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=== Mobility ===
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Gearbox: 9 gears forward, 1 gear backwards | Max speed forward: 70 km/h ( 43.5 mph) | max speed backwards: 11 km/h (6.8 mph){{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
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{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
 
 
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{{tankMobility}}
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,937|rbMinHp=1,106}}
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
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{{main|2A46M-1 (125 mm)}}
 
{{main|2A46M-1 (125 mm)}}
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! colspan="5" | [[2A46M-1 (125 mm)|125 mm 2A46M-1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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!Autoloader
 
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! ''Arcade''
 
! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 45 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 22.8 || 31.6 || 38.4 || 42.5 || 45.2 || rowspan="2" | 6.50
 
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| 14.3 || 16.8 || 20.4 || 22.6 || 24.0
 
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==== Ammunition ====
 
==== Ammunition ====
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{{:2A46M-1 (125 mm)/Ammunition|3BK18M, 3OF26, 3BM42, 9M119 (T-80)}}
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
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| 3BK18M || HEATFS || __ || __ || __ || __ || __ || __
 
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| 3OF26 || HE || __ || __ || __ || __ || __ || __
 
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| 3BM42 || APFSDS || __ || __ || __ || __ || __ || __
 
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| 3BK18M || HEATFS || ___ || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
 
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| 3OF26 || HE || ___ || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
 
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| 3BM42 || APFSDS || ___ || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
 
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! rowspan="2" | Range<br>(m)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (kg)
 
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 
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| 9M119 || ATGM || ___ || _,___ || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
 
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 
==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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[[File:Ammoracks_T-80U.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! 1st<br>rack empty
 
! 2nd<br>rack empty
 
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| '''45''' || ''Projectiles'' <br> ''Propellants'' || 45&nbsp;''(+0)'' <br> 45&nbsp;''(+0)'' || 44&nbsp;''(+1)'' <br> 44&nbsp;''(+1)'' || 43&nbsp;''(+2)'' <br> 43&nbsp;''(+2)'' || 38&nbsp;''(+7)'' <br> 41&nbsp;''(+4)'' || 37&nbsp;''(+8)'' <br> 39&nbsp;''(+6)''
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! 6th<br>rack empty
 
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! 10th<br>rack empty*
 
! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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| 34&nbsp;''(+11)'' <br> 38&nbsp;''(+7)'' || 31&nbsp;''(+14)'' <br> 37&nbsp;''(+8)'' || 30&nbsp;''(+15)'' <br> 30&nbsp;''(+15)'' || 29&nbsp;''(+16)'' <br> 29&nbsp;''(+16)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+44)'' <br> 1&nbsp;''(+44)'' || No
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* The {{PAGENAME}} uses two-piece ammunition, composed of projectiles (yellow) and propellant bags (orange). Both have separate racks.
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* Projectiles and charges are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
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* The T 80 U's first stage ammo rack consists of a mechanized carousel at the bottom of the turret which carries 28 propellants and 28 projectiles.
  
 
=== Machine guns ===
 
=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|NSVT (12.7 mm)|PKT (7.62 mm)}}
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The Swedish T 80 U plays just like its counterparts in the Russian tree, albeit without access to the more powerful 3BM46 APFSDS round. It is mobile and can fulfill the role of a good all-round MBT, and can serve as a good backup to the Strv 122s at top tier. It is worth noting that top APFSDS rounds that have close to 600mm of penetration can penetrate its front plate.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* Ability to use ATGMs
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* Effective armour at its BR, protected by ERA effective against non-tandem ATGMs and some APFSDS rounds
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* Effective acceleration in muddy terrain
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* Consistent 6.5 second reload rate regardless of remaining crew and crew skill
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* Lower BR gives it more favorable matchmaking
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'''Cons'''
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* Does not have access to 3BM46 unlike its Russian counterparts
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* Slow reverse speed compared to its contemporaries in the Swedish tech tree
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* Sluggish vertical targeting speed
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* Frontal armour on the underbody of the vehicle does not protect against APFSDS projectiles at all
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* Thermals are a separate mod from NVDs like its Russian counterparts
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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At the end of 1993, following the de-escalation after the end of the Cold War, the Swedish army created a programme for the procurement of new MBTs, and held a competition between different tanks. Both NATO and Russia participated, Russia was specially interested in securing a contract with the Swedish Army, since it had been forced to reduce its military spending after the Cold War.
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The T-80U arrived late to the competition and was not able to directly compete with the M1A1 Abrams presented by the USA, the Leclerc by France, and the Leopard 2 by Germany. At the end of the competition, the government announced that the Leopard 2 would be acquired and would serve as Sweden's main battle tank during the following years. Thus the Leopard 2A4 was adopted (and later more modern versions) with some Swedish modifications and entered service as the [[Strv 121]].
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While some reports remain classified, some information about the reports was made available for the public.
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* The results concluded that the T-80U was easy and quick to prepare for shallow fording.
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* Its ability to reposition was severely limited thanks to its low reverse speed compared to NATO MBTs.
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* The crew had good visibility during daytime but the driver struggled a lot when driving in darkness.
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* Compared to the Strv 104, it was much faster to accelerate and had a much higher top speed. Its suspension was also very good and allowed high speed movement without much crew discomfort.
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* Performance against obstacles was good, although limited by the lack of self-cleaning tracks, so it tended to lose traction.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=sw_t_80u Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
  
 
== See also ==
 
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* [[T-80UK]]
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* [[T-80U]]
  
 
== External links ==
 
== External links ==
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* [https://tanks.mod16.org/2015/04/09/report-from-terrain-trials-with-t-80u/ <nowiki>[Swedish Tank Archives] - Report from terrain trials with T-80U</nowiki>]
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* [https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/why_t_72m1_and_t_80u_tanks_lost_to_leopard_2a4_during_1994_tests_in_sweden-6645.html <nowiki>[Defense Express] - Why T-72M1 and T-80U Tanks Lost to Leopard 2A4 during 1994 Tests in Sweden</nowiki>]
  
 
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Latest revision as of 02:42, 17 April 2024

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This page is about the medium tank T 80 U (Sweden). For other versions, see T-80 (Family).
T 80 U
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GarageImage T 80 U (Sweden).jpg
GarageImage T 80 U (Sweden) TVD.jpg
T 80 U
Sweden flag.png Sweden
VIII Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
11.3 11.3 11.3
Class:
SQUADRON
Research:570 000 Specs-Card-Activity.png
Purchase:1 140 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

Following the end of the Cold War, and a subsequent de-escalation of the hostilities, Sweden planned to modernize its tank battalions. Trials were undertaken between 1991 and 1994. The T-80U, alongside the T-72M1, and other NATO tanks such as the M1A1, the Leclerc, and the Leopard 2A4, participated in these trials. The T-80U however joined very late to the trials, and was not properly evaluated unlike the other designs. The tank suffered from poor visibility and mobility, specially during night time where its optics were deemed much inferior to those fitted by western designs. However, the tank did have excellent protection, it was relatively easy to operate, it had a very powerful engine, and a good transmission that allowed very high top speeds without much crew discomfort. But in the end, the tank was not incorporated; instead, the Leopard 2A4 was adopted as the Strv 121.

Introduced in Update "Fire and Ice", the T 80 U was a contender in Swedish trials for a possible adoption of new tank in the 1990s, the T-80U is not too dissimilar from the Soviet T-80U. The most significant difference is the lack of 3BM46 APFSDS round for the cannon. While it lacks the most powerful kinetic round, it still has the same armour and mobility performance for players used to the T-80U playstyle to quickly acclimate to. It has also the same vulnerabilities: weak ammo racks, and a poor mobility at least compared to western designs. It uses a carousel autoloader, which means that the rounds are very exposed inside the vehicle.

General info

Survivability and armour

ERA
Effective action against the cumulative ammunition
Composite armour
Balanced protection against all types of ammunition
Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
ESS
Creation of a smoke screen in the direction of movement of the vehicle
Self-entrenching equipment
Creation of ramparts and trenches in soft ground
Armourfront / side / back
Hull105 / 80 / 50
Turret180 / 160 / 65
Crew3 people
Visibility79 %

Just like any other Russian MBT, the ammunition is in the turret basket, the middle of the hull. Therefore ammo hits are extremly critical. The gunner and commander are inside the turret which is autoloaded. The commander can take over gun controls if the gunner is taken out. The driver is surrounded by fuel tanks as well as the engine and a part of the ammo stowage. Due to it's bad reverse speed it is relatively restricted when it comes to retreat.

Armour type: The whole Hull: High Hardness Armor, Inside armor: Front: Contact-5 ERA and composite armor | Turret: Cast Homogenous Armor, Contact-5 ERA on the turret face and upper back side of the turret, inside: composite armor | Sideskirts: High Hardness Armor (17 mm), Contact-5 ERA | Rubber sideskirts (10mm) | Some (not necessary) parts made of construction steel

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 105 mm 80 mm Top
20 mm Bottom 		50 mm 20-50 mm
Turret 300 -1660 mm Turret front
20-250 mm Gun mantlet 		150 -900 mm 65 - 1500 mm 45 - 650 mm
Cupola 45 mm 45 mm 45 mm 45 mm

Notes: The armor thickness varies a lot. The effective armor values are often higher than the actual part(steel) is thick.

Suspension: Suspension wheels are 20 mm; the tracks are 20 mm, the suspension itself is also 20 mm

Mobility

Motor: Klimov GTD-1250, Gas turbine | Power: 1106 horsepowers, 3154 rotations per minute

Gearbox: 9 gears forward, 1 gear backwards | Max speed forward: 70 km/h ( 43.5 mph) | max speed backwards: 11 km/h (6.8 mph)
Speedforward / back
AB78 / 13 km/h
RB and SB70 / 11 km/h
Number of gears9 forward
1 back
Weight46.0 t
Engine power
AB2 385 hp
RB and SB1 250 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB51.8 hp/t
RB and SB27.2 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 78 13 46 1,937 2,385 42.11 51.85
Realistic 70 11 1,106 1,250 24.04 27.17

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB4 181 → 6 844 Sl icon.png
RB4 101 → 6 713 Sl icon.png
SB4 816 → 7 883 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications289 100 Rp icon.png
471 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost3 100 Ge icon.png
Crew training310 000 Sl icon.png
Experts1 080 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 280 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
160 / 200 / 240 % Sl icon.png
250 / 250 / 250 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
18 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
18 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
4 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods dozer blade.png
Dozer Blade
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
18 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
18 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement sw.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods engine smoke screen system.png
ESS
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods thermal sight.png
NVD upgrade
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
23 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
18 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods tank laser rangefinder.png
Laser rangefinder
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
18 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
125mm_ussr_ATGM_ammo_pack
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Laser rangefinder
Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder
Thermal imager
Allows to see thermal radiation in the infrared range day and night

Main armament

125 mm 2A46M-1 cannon
Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Autoloader
Automatically feeds projectiles into the breech. The speed does not depend on the skills of the loader
Ammunition45 rounds
First-order28 rounds
Reload6.5 s
Vertical guidance-5° / 15°
Main article: 2A46M-1 (125 mm)
125 mm 2A46M-1 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Autoloader
Arcade 45 -5°/+15° ±180° Two-plane 22.8 31.6 38.4 42.5 45.2 6.50
Realistic 14.3 16.8 20.4 22.6 24.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
3BK18M HEATFS 550 550 550 550 550 550
3OF26 HE 42 42 42 42 42 42
3BM42 APFSDS 457 454 445 431 419 406
9M119 ATGM 700 700 700 700 700 700
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
3BK18M HEATFS 905 19 0.05 0.1 2.79 65° 72° 77°
3OF26 HE 850 23 0.3 0.1 5.24 79° 80° 81°
3BM42 APFSDS 1,700 4.85 - - - 78° 80° 81°
Missile details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Range
(m) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
9M119 ATGM 445 5,000 16.5 0.05 0.1 5.72 80° 82° 90°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the T 80 U (Sweden)
Full
ammo 		Ammo
part 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty
45 Projectiles
Propellants 		45 (+0)
45 (+0) 		44 (+1)
44 (+1) 		43 (+2)
43 (+2) 		38 (+7)
41 (+4) 		37 (+8)
39 (+6)
6th
rack empty 		7th
rack empty 		8th
rack empty 		9th
rack empty 		10th
rack empty* 		Visual
discrepancy
34 (+11)
38 (+7) 		31 (+14)
37 (+8) 		30 (+15)
30 (+15) 		29 (+16)
29 (+16) 		1 (+44)
1 (+44) 		No

Notes:

  • The T 80 U (Sweden) uses two-piece ammunition, composed of projectiles (yellow) and propellant bags (orange). Both have separate racks.
  • Projectiles and charges are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
  • The T 80 U's first stage ammo rack consists of a mechanized carousel at the bottom of the turret which carries 28 propellants and 28 projectiles.

Machine guns

12.7 mm NSVT machine gun
Ammunition500 rounds
Belt capacity100 rounds
Reload5.0 s
Fire rate700 shots/min
Vertical guidance-5° / 60°
7.62 mm PKT machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition1 250 rounds
Belt capacity250 rounds
Reload8.0 s
Fire rate700 shots/min
Main articles: NSVT (12.7 mm), PKT (7.62 mm)
12.7 mm NSVT
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 500 (100) 700 -5°/+60° ±180°
7.62 mm PKT
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 1,250 (250) 700 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

The Swedish T 80 U plays just like its counterparts in the Russian tree, albeit without access to the more powerful 3BM46 APFSDS round. It is mobile and can fulfill the role of a good all-round MBT, and can serve as a good backup to the Strv 122s at top tier. It is worth noting that top APFSDS rounds that have close to 600mm of penetration can penetrate its front plate.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Ability to use ATGMs
  • Has access to 1st generation thermal sights and a laser rangefinder for spotting and sniping
  • Effective armour at its BR, protected by ERA effective against non-tandem ATGMs and some APFSDS rounds
  • Effective acceleration in muddy terrain
  • Consistent 6.5 second reload rate regardless of remaining crew and crew skill
  • Lower BR gives it more favorable matchmaking

Cons

  • Does not have access to 3BM46 unlike its Russian counterparts
  • Slow reverse speed compared to its contemporaries in the Swedish tech tree
  • Sluggish vertical targeting speed
  • Frontal armour on the underbody of the vehicle does not protect against APFSDS projectiles at all
  • Thermals are a separate mod from NVDs like its Russian counterparts

History

At the end of 1993, following the de-escalation after the end of the Cold War, the Swedish army created a programme for the procurement of new MBTs, and held a competition between different tanks. Both NATO and Russia participated, Russia was specially interested in securing a contract with the Swedish Army, since it had been forced to reduce its military spending after the Cold War.

The T-80U arrived late to the competition and was not able to directly compete with the M1A1 Abrams presented by the USA, the Leclerc by France, and the Leopard 2 by Germany. At the end of the competition, the government announced that the Leopard 2 would be acquired and would serve as Sweden's main battle tank during the following years. Thus the Leopard 2A4 was adopted (and later more modern versions) with some Swedish modifications and entered service as the Strv 121.

While some reports remain classified, some information about the reports was made available for the public.

  • The results concluded that the T-80U was easy and quick to prepare for shallow fording.
  • Its ability to reposition was severely limited thanks to its low reverse speed compared to NATO MBTs.
  • The crew had good visibility during daytime but the driver struggled a lot when driving in darkness.
  • Compared to the Strv 104, it was much faster to accelerate and had a much higher top speed. Its suspension was also very good and allowed high speed movement without much crew discomfort.
  • Performance against obstacles was good, although limited by the lack of self-cleaning tracks, so it tended to lose traction.

Media

Skins

See also

External links


Sweden medium tanks
Strv m/42  Lago I · Strv m/42 EH · Ikv 73 · Strv m/42 DT · Pvkv IV
Centurion derivatives  Strv 81 · Strv 81 (RB 52) · Strv 101 · Strv 104 · Strv 105
Strv 103  Strv 103-0 · Strv 103A · Strv 103С
Strv 121/122  Strv 121 · Christian II · Strv 122A · Strv 122B PLSS · Strv 122B+
Other  Sherman III/IV · T 80 U
Finland 
WWII  ▄T-28 · ▄T-34 · ▄Pz.IV · ▄T-34-85
Post War  ▄Comet I · ▄Charioteer Mk VII · ▄T-54 · ▄T-55M · ▄T-72M1 · ▄Leopard 2A4 · ▄Leopard 2A6
Norway  Leopard 1A5NO2

Squadron ground vehicles
USA  M901 · M1A1 AIM
Germany  Leopard 2 PL
USSR  BMP-2M · T-80UK
Britain  Bhishma TWMP
Japan  RCV (P)
China  Object 122MT "MC"
France  CV 9035NL
Sweden  T 80 U
Israel  Magach 6B Gal

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